I have to try to rephrase that... Hopefully I can point out the flaw i see. (I also emailed the person who runs that page :P ).
To say that shows are tied together because they share the same object, person, places, etc, is fine. but to say that makes them part of a delusion isn't 'fair.'
For example, lets use Oceanic Airlines. Oceanic *might have been* in tommy's imagination (if some even he imagined involved it), but that doesn't mean that he made up Oceanic Airlines.
After all, if there is a Coke in your dream, that doesn't mean Coke is a figment of your imagination.
Thus, to say that all shows that used Oceanic Flights was in Tommy's mind is faulty logic. It *could* mean that these shows exsit in the same universe that Tommy lives in, but it does *not* necessarily mean that it exists only in his imagination.
This flaw breaks a lot of connection for things to exist only in his imagination.
This is more of a 'what shows could be part of the same universe as Tommy lives in' not 'What's in Tommy's Head.' Since any given person. place, thing, etc.. could be part of the 'real world' Tommy lived in, and he just included that in his imagination.
Another example: If Tommy dreams he drank Noz-a-la with Mork, and he wakes up, and it turns out Mork was imaginary, Noz-a-la is still around. And if Norm and Frazier Krane shared a Noz-a-la, the existance of the Noz-a-la doesn't prove Norm or Frazier is imaginary.
The existance of anything or person or whatever in 'Tommy's imagination' in Tommy's "real world" (wherever he lives) is pure conjecture. And because most people's dreams or 'imaginations' often include much of their surroundings, it much more plausable a majoirty of these shows were NOT in his imagination (even if the events of St. Elsewhere were).
I agree about the looseness of ties. For example, the 'oceanic' flights that appear in so many shows. It's because its convienent to use without violating copyrights.
But here's the deal. Just because a product, person, etc.. was somehow tied to Tommy's fantasy doesn't mean it didn't exist in 'the real world' of St. Elsewhere.
For example, the oceanic flights. things could have happened in St. Elsewhere (or any other show) involving Oceanic that *was* tommy's imagination, but that doesn't mean that he made up Oceanic. After all, if there is a Coke in your dream, that doesn't mean coke is a figment of your imagination.
Thus, to say that all shows that used Oceanic flights was in tommy's mind is really bad logic and just wrong.
This is more of a 'what shows could be part of the same universe as Tommy lives in' not whats in his head. Since any given person. place, thing, etc.. could be part of the 'real world' Tommy lived in, and just included in his imagination.
I'd like to see a video of the two-tone voice thing.
I can: * raise one eyebrow * do the '6' drawing * Do some of the tounge tricks * 'Toot your own horn' (and no, you get no video proof!) Well, I should say I 'used to' be able to do that one, when I was younger. I haven't tried in years. Its too 'painful' a stretch on the back. Plus, I have someone else to do it for me now. :P
Honestly, how you think this is appropriate content for 'neatorama'?!
What about the title "The Chinese Death Camp for Cats" strikes you as 'neat' ?!
Sorry, it just aggrivates me to come to a site that is supposed to be full of fun and interesting things and just run soemthing like "guess what they are killing tons of cats all the time!" >:(
"cat owners have a lower incidence of heart attacks and strokes than do dog owners" vs. "(Dogs didn’t factor into the findings because fewer participants owned them.)"
Yeah, I'm suprised at some of the (frankly) stupid comments some people have about the 'wrongness' of homosexuality. These posts (like John G's) are just hate clothed in a scientific-sounding verbage.
The 'facts' mentioned being completely incorrect (you can't just say "contrary to widespread propaganda" and expect to be believed without evidence), and the *thanking of God* (how scientific) in the post, are quite telling...
I have to wonder, do people honestly think this way, or is this just trolling? I hope it's the latter, for humanities sake.
As people above posted, there are so many reasons to keep the shelter (assuming it's not an unsound structure and after it is cleaned up a bit).
Heck, you could even rent it out as an apartment! (for like a college kid or someone who couldn't afford a normal apartment). Well, that depends on the plumbing, I guess. heh.
Pluto isn't a 'hypothetical planet', it's a classified 'dwarf planet'. Pluto's existence is not a theory, thus 'hypothetical' doesn't apply as an adjective.
Get over it, your reading to much into it (herminius).
Most people understand that this is an incorrect translation just for silliness and fun. The post even tells you so. It's not about cultural view or whatnot, its just about having a laugh. If you don't believe that, see any of Wierd Al's "interviews" with celebrities. They use the same language but he edits them to make them silly. Just for fun.
"Just because you are fat does not mean you can sing." LOL
the 'nerd girl' might have better luck with guys getting her references if she looked for a 'nerd girl' and not a bunch of stupid-but-cute guys. Just a thought.
The problem with non-autistic people learning her 'language' is that he language doesn't communicate. If you play with water, nom on some object, and hum, she, an autistic person will not know you are saying "I think post-modern cinematagrophy is a little self-aggrandizing" Her 'language' is her interacting with her environment, yes. But thats not a language. It's really indulgence in sensation. A language has to be able to be understood by someone other than yourself.
That being said, i do believe she's the one speaking. What is amazing to me is how complex thoughts austics can have, yet they have such a hard time expressing it. I think it's wonderful that with technology, they can now.
Also, on a completely different note.... the voice software she uses reminds me a little bit of GlaDOS form portal. I wonder where she got it! :P
To say that shows are tied together because they share the same object, person, places, etc, is fine. but to say that makes them part of a delusion isn't 'fair.'
For example, lets use Oceanic Airlines. Oceanic *might have been* in tommy's imagination (if some even he imagined involved it), but that doesn't mean that he made up Oceanic Airlines.
After all, if there is a Coke in your dream, that doesn't mean Coke is a figment of your imagination.
Thus, to say that all shows that used Oceanic Flights was in Tommy's mind is faulty logic. It *could* mean that these shows exsit in the same universe that Tommy lives in, but it does *not* necessarily mean that it exists only in his imagination.
This flaw breaks a lot of connection for things to exist only in his imagination.
This is more of a 'what shows could be part of the same universe as Tommy lives in' not 'What's in Tommy's Head.' Since any given person. place, thing, etc.. could be part of the 'real world' Tommy lived in, and he just included that in his imagination.
Another example: If Tommy dreams he drank Noz-a-la with Mork, and he wakes up, and it turns out Mork was imaginary, Noz-a-la is still around. And if Norm and Frazier Krane shared a Noz-a-la, the existance of the Noz-a-la doesn't prove Norm or Frazier is imaginary.
The existance of anything or person or whatever in 'Tommy's imagination' in Tommy's "real world" (wherever he lives) is pure conjecture. And because most people's dreams or 'imaginations' often include much of their surroundings, it much more plausable a majoirty of these shows were NOT in his imagination (even if the events of St. Elsewhere were).
But here's the deal. Just because a product, person, etc.. was somehow tied to Tommy's fantasy doesn't mean it didn't exist in 'the real world' of St. Elsewhere.
For example, the oceanic flights. things could have happened in St. Elsewhere (or any other show) involving Oceanic that *was* tommy's imagination, but that doesn't mean that he made up Oceanic.
After all, if there is a Coke in your dream, that doesn't mean coke is a figment of your imagination.
Thus, to say that all shows that used Oceanic flights was in tommy's mind is really bad logic and just wrong.
This is more of a 'what shows could be part of the same universe as Tommy lives in' not whats in his head. Since any given person. place, thing, etc.. could be part of the 'real world' Tommy lived in, and just included in his imagination.
I can:
* raise one eyebrow
* do the '6' drawing
* Do some of the tounge tricks
* 'Toot your own horn' (and no, you get no video proof!)
Well, I should say I 'used to' be able to do that one, when I was younger. I haven't tried in years. Its too 'painful' a stretch on the back. Plus, I have someone else to do it for me now. :P
and then they had pancakes.
What about the title "The Chinese Death Camp for Cats" strikes you as 'neat' ?!
Sorry, it just aggrivates me to come to a site that is supposed to be full of fun and interesting things and just run soemthing like "guess what they are killing tons of cats all the time!" >:(
"cat owners have a lower incidence of heart attacks and strokes than do dog owners"
vs.
"(Dogs didn’t factor into the findings because fewer participants owned them.)"
The 'facts' mentioned being completely incorrect (you can't just say "contrary to widespread propaganda" and expect to be believed without evidence), and the *thanking of God* (how scientific) in the post, are quite telling...
I have to wonder, do people honestly think this way, or is this just trolling? I hope it's the latter, for humanities sake.
Anyhow, this was news in 1973. Not too topical. :P
Heck, you could even rent it out as an apartment! (for like a college kid or someone who couldn't afford a normal apartment). Well, that depends on the plumbing, I guess. heh.
In any case, why get rid of such a neat thing?
Most people understand that this is an incorrect translation just for silliness and fun. The post even tells you so. It's not about cultural view or whatnot, its just about having a laugh.
If you don't believe that, see any of Wierd Al's "interviews" with celebrities. They use the same language but he edits them to make them silly. Just for fun.
"Just because you are fat does not mean you can sing." LOL
(and I'm a dog person).
Her 'language' is her interacting with her environment, yes. But thats not a language. It's really indulgence in sensation.
A language has to be able to be understood by someone other than yourself.
That being said, i do believe she's the one speaking. What is amazing to me is how complex thoughts austics can have, yet they have such a hard time expressing it. I think it's wonderful that with technology, they can now.
Also, on a completely different note.... the voice software she uses reminds me a little bit of GlaDOS form portal. I wonder where she got it! :P