Sid, even though you mention me in your rebuttal, nothing you spoke about speaks directly to anything *I* was talking about (which was that the quality of these books in completely subjective). Who's the moron, here?
Not all "I don't need to try it to know it's bad" arguments work. Reading books is not akin to substance abuse and the deleterious effects of heroin and other drugs are not a matter or opinion but fact.
The author of these books did not identify a niche and write a series of books in order to exploit the emotions of teen girls in order to get rich nor lure them in to some sort of R rated book trap as you suppose. She wrote a story as a personal project, was encouraged to get it published, and she did. Meyer's intended audience was really herself and a few friends at the most. Her publisher was the one that targeted it to young adults. Books one and four were supposed to be all there was to it, but the publisher asked her to write two more in order to draw it out and make it longer (and more profitable). No one was trying to pull a fast one here.
I could care less about you saying bad things about Bella. Yes, she is a fictional character. I didn't agree with the protagonists for much of the book. But it sounds as if you are making the author out to be some sort of con artist intent on destroying the morals of our youth. You say that TV shows and books aim to do this and that. Books and TV shows can do nothing since they are not living, thinking objects/beings. The people behind them are the actors here, and when you ignorantly cast aspersions about the motivations and intentions of people that you know nothing about you come off as a complete fool (worse actually).
You tell me to read between your crochety barbs in order to understand your point, but that only works when your points are well presented in the first place, which they aren't. You enter discussions with very superficial knowledge and try to make a point that doesn't belong because it's based off of freaking Buffy and whatever else and Twilight is not Buffy! Do you form all of your opinions based off of heresay ignorance?
Thank you, Jen, for your insight. I agree that most of the vitriol against these books is from people who have not read them. In fact, most of the people here who have posted negative comments about the books admit to having never read them. I find that to be the epitome of ignorance.
We live in a time when adults have to struggle to get kids to do anything but watch TV, play video games, or send endless text messages (in horribly mangled english) and people are are critcizing those that read? Seriously? Get a new hobby, honestly, people. Criticizing people's choice in books is as useful as people's choice in ice cream flavors.
LisaL, every comment I've seen regarding KFC's chicken says that it's awful. Of course I was at PETA's webiste at the time. Where did you get your sampling of opinions regarding these books?
Wow, Sid, you have done what only the truly stupid on the interwebs do and that is to shoot your mouth off about something while stating in your comments that you do not actually know what you are talking about (due to only having just heard about said thing) and then making totally incorrect and uninformed assumptions about it and in the end sounding like an old man with his pants around his ankles and shouting for the stupid kids to get off his lawn.
Yes, I've been to Kangnam. Very affluent. Does not reflect the typical Korean, as you wouldn't expect the rich anywhere to to be an example of the normal. It's like saying that because a segment of the population that buys into all the iPhone stuff that everyone in that population does.
That may have been a bad choice of example since we're talking about Korea. Everyone over the age of 5 there has a cell phone (handuh-pone), and that's no exaggeration.! :)
"Ya know" after every thought. Saying "I don't know" in mid sentence as a filler until his/her brain starts working again. Saying "literally" after every 3-4 words. The word is not "anyways" it is "anyway".
stormie24, your sister visited South Korea and is somehow qualified to comment on the national psyche? I lived there for almost 3 years and never heard of nor knew anyone that ever had plastic surgery. Yes, I speak the language and yes, I interacted with the people there on a daily basis.
Dianne, if there's anything I know about people like you, it is that- no, you won't shut up. And that is the unfortunate thing.
You're like the lady at my office that talks aobut her bladder problems loud enough for everyone to hear. Both of the things you have to say make everyone, even those that sympathize with you, around you cringe.
You're as asinine as those idiots who booed during McCain's speech last night everytime he mentioned Obama.
Does anyone else think that ChrisM70 should try reading a normal case document and seeing how boring they are before saying what the Chief Justice should or schould not do?
I don't see how this would be helpful without the tiny Yoda in your body to control the lighsaber.
Not all "I don't need to try it to know it's bad" arguments work. Reading books is not akin to substance abuse and the deleterious effects of heroin and other drugs are not a matter or opinion but fact.
The author of these books did not identify a niche and write a series of books in order to exploit the emotions of teen girls in order to get rich nor lure them in to some sort of R rated book trap as you suppose. She wrote a story as a personal project, was encouraged to get it published, and she did. Meyer's intended audience was really herself and a few friends at the most. Her publisher was the one that targeted it to young adults. Books one and four were supposed to be all there was to it, but the publisher asked her to write two more in order to draw it out and make it longer (and more profitable). No one was trying to pull a fast one here.
I could care less about you saying bad things about Bella. Yes, she is a fictional character. I didn't agree with the protagonists for much of the book. But it sounds as if you are making the author out to be some sort of con artist intent on destroying the morals of our youth. You say that TV shows and books aim to do this and that. Books and TV shows can do nothing since they are not living, thinking objects/beings. The people behind them are the actors here, and when you ignorantly cast aspersions about the motivations and intentions of people that you know nothing about you come off as a complete fool (worse actually).
You tell me to read between your crochety barbs in order to understand your point, but that only works when your points are well presented in the first place, which they aren't. You enter discussions with very superficial knowledge and try to make a point that doesn't belong because it's based off of freaking Buffy and whatever else and Twilight is not Buffy! Do you form all of your opinions based off of heresay ignorance?
We live in a time when adults have to struggle to get kids to do anything but watch TV, play video games, or send endless text messages (in horribly mangled english) and people are are critcizing those that read? Seriously? Get a new hobby, honestly, people. Criticizing people's choice in books is as useful as people's choice in ice cream flavors.
That may have been a bad choice of example since we're talking about Korea. Everyone over the age of 5 there has a cell phone (handuh-pone), and that's no exaggeration.! :)
Saying "I don't know" in mid sentence as a filler until his/her brain starts working again.
Saying "literally" after every 3-4 words.
The word is not "anyways" it is "anyway".
You're like the lady at my office that talks aobut her bladder problems loud enough for everyone to hear. Both of the things you have to say make everyone, even those that sympathize with you, around you cringe.
You're as asinine as those idiots who booed during McCain's speech last night everytime he mentioned Obama.