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Every little bump would cause the needle to lose track. Seems pretty lame to me.
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TronStuck - My understanding is Sallie Mae guaranteed the loan so they are stuck with it not the loan company.
I'm curious, have you ever spent any time in the military?
I'm curious, have you ever spent any time in the military?
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Hey everyone. I found something from the U.S. Treasury Department but it kind of muddies the water a little.
This from their FAQ:
"Question I thought that United States currency was legal tender for all debts. Some businesses or governmental agencies say that they will only accept checks, money orders or credit cards as payment, and others will only accept currency notes in denominations of $20 or smaller. Isn't this illegal?
Answer The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues."
This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy."
Just what is an 'organization'? Can't a state agency be considered to be one as disorganized as they may be?
"There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."
If a state agency is an organization it looks like
they can do what happened in the story. If it is not an organization it looks to me like the law says they have to accept the pennies.
I did find that I was wrong about coins. They are legal tender same as bills.
I hate not getting a complete answer. The fog continues I am afraid.
This from their FAQ:
"Question I thought that United States currency was legal tender for all debts. Some businesses or governmental agencies say that they will only accept checks, money orders or credit cards as payment, and others will only accept currency notes in denominations of $20 or smaller. Isn't this illegal?
Answer The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues."
This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy."
Just what is an 'organization'? Can't a state agency be considered to be one as disorganized as they may be?
"There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services."
If a state agency is an organization it looks like
they can do what happened in the story. If it is not an organization it looks to me like the law says they have to accept the pennies.
I did find that I was wrong about coins. They are legal tender same as bills.
I hate not getting a complete answer. The fog continues I am afraid.
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CJ
"Wow! I’m jealous in that ‘I-wish-I-could-do-that-if-I-understood-how-to-do-it’ kind of way."
Hi there. Maybe you've overlooked it since it is so ubiquitous but with the internet right at your fingertips how to do that is likely out there. Just an idea.
"Wow! I’m jealous in that ‘I-wish-I-could-do-that-if-I-understood-how-to-do-it’ kind of way."
Hi there. Maybe you've overlooked it since it is so ubiquitous but with the internet right at your fingertips how to do that is likely out there. Just an idea.
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LisaL
"Mentally retarded people shouldn’t be able to have kids….."
I spent 20 years in the navy so very little if anything surprises me. Your comment is extremely troubling. Not to mention totally ignorant. If I had the power I'd make sure YOU never have children. The Nazi's not only murdered millions of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and others. They also killed untold numbers of those they considered to be unfit to live much less have children. People called "mentally retarded". Perhaps you would try and educate yourself before you open your mouth with such filth. Thousands, nay millions of Americans are mentally retarded in some form or other. That does NOT mean they cannot and will not be loving and caring parents that will raise their children to be fine citizens. You madam are a disgrace and disgust me!
"There are just some people out there that do not deserve to have children" I would say your parents were two of them.
"and it sickens me knowing that good decent people can’t while the crap of this world can." It's obvious you are not in the former group but in the latter one.
samlive
"also, we all know that stupid ugly people make the most babies in the country. its an unfortunate fact."
Since you are obviously hopelessly stupid I won't waste my time trying to educate you.
"Mentally retarded people shouldn’t be able to have kids….."
I spent 20 years in the navy so very little if anything surprises me. Your comment is extremely troubling. Not to mention totally ignorant. If I had the power I'd make sure YOU never have children. The Nazi's not only murdered millions of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and others. They also killed untold numbers of those they considered to be unfit to live much less have children. People called "mentally retarded". Perhaps you would try and educate yourself before you open your mouth with such filth. Thousands, nay millions of Americans are mentally retarded in some form or other. That does NOT mean they cannot and will not be loving and caring parents that will raise their children to be fine citizens. You madam are a disgrace and disgust me!
"There are just some people out there that do not deserve to have children" I would say your parents were two of them.
"and it sickens me knowing that good decent people can’t while the crap of this world can." It's obvious you are not in the former group but in the latter one.
samlive
"also, we all know that stupid ugly people make the most babies in the country. its an unfortunate fact."
Since you are obviously hopelessly stupid I won't waste my time trying to educate you.
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Point, Set
Match Byrd Brain!
Match Byrd Brain!
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Alex,
Looks like I might be in the running for the T shirt with the "do you remember" topic. Do I get to select which one I want? GGGG Size would be XL.
I realize you don't really know me but I assure you I am not a pushy person in real life. Thus your blog and forums both offer a great place for my alter ego to soar. GGGGG
(just like Icarus)
Looks like I might be in the running for the T shirt with the "do you remember" topic. Do I get to select which one I want? GGGG Size would be XL.
I realize you don't really know me but I assure you I am not a pushy person in real life. Thus your blog and forums both offer a great place for my alter ego to soar. GGGGG
(just like Icarus)
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GrouchieGrumbles
"Shhhh SparkS, you’ll ruin my street cred!!!!
Got you covered. I simply wanted you to know some of us see through it. GGG You know, actions speak louder than words.
"The ID came from my tendency to be a bit cynical, to the point of being considered Grouchy."
Heck, you have a way to to be on my level. I have taken curmudgeonly to new heights! Truth be known
I may come across as brash some places, like here, but in fact I am a huge teddy bear.
" hehe Truth be known, I am actually quite the jokester!"
We'll get along fine! I can be extremely sarcastic and I'm sure a lot of my attempts at humor go no where. Oh well, doesn't stop me. GGGG
Oh yes, I did, and the pleasure was all mine sir.
chickmagnetstuff
"that is really not a cool watch I’ve a couple of watches like that but it’s just weird that someone would create something like that to make yourself feel complicated when you just want to know what time it is."
I agree 100%! I am a true gadget nut but a lot of their watches seem very hard to use. I guess it's a price that's paid for coolness. For me when I look at a watch I want to know the time. Not need a college degree to operate the thing. There goes my chances of ever winning a contest.
"Shhhh SparkS, you’ll ruin my street cred!!!!
Got you covered. I simply wanted you to know some of us see through it. GGG You know, actions speak louder than words.
"The ID came from my tendency to be a bit cynical, to the point of being considered Grouchy."
Heck, you have a way to to be on my level. I have taken curmudgeonly to new heights! Truth be known
I may come across as brash some places, like here, but in fact I am a huge teddy bear.
" hehe Truth be known, I am actually quite the jokester!"
We'll get along fine! I can be extremely sarcastic and I'm sure a lot of my attempts at humor go no where. Oh well, doesn't stop me. GGGG
Oh yes, I did, and the pleasure was all mine sir.
chickmagnetstuff
"that is really not a cool watch I’ve a couple of watches like that but it’s just weird that someone would create something like that to make yourself feel complicated when you just want to know what time it is."
I agree 100%! I am a true gadget nut but a lot of their watches seem very hard to use. I guess it's a price that's paid for coolness. For me when I look at a watch I want to know the time. Not need a college degree to operate the thing. There goes my chances of ever winning a contest.
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I was wondering how they knew what prescription to use. Don't contacts use prescriptions like eyeglasses?
I guess even a plain 2X or 3X could be a great improvement.
BTW this story was really an AWH story. Once in a while mankind does something really nice.
I guess even a plain 2X or 3X could be a great improvement.
BTW this story was really an AWH story. Once in a while mankind does something really nice.
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Woogie
"Don’t know about the US, but I know in England, above a certain value (five pounds I think), pennies are no longer legal tender. Lot of people don’t know that, but it’s true."
I still think the situation here is similar to that.
I know I have read some things about this, will try and find something. Everyone that's so sure pennies are legal tender may be mistaken. None of our coins say they are legal tender. I realize I might not be making much sense but just because we assume coins are legal tender may not make that a fact. We might not have the right to pay all debts with them. This will bug me until I can find what it was that I read.
WhollyRoamin'Catholic
"I wouldn’t take a $56 dollar bill. Even if he wrote his drivers license on it."
No foolin' you by golly!
Sid Morrison
"For what it’s worth, I have in the past paid annoying charges in $2 bills."
Did you ever get some with their corners torn off? I used to get $2 bills in my pay when in the navy. I think the military was the largest users of them then.
Reason I ask is I remember my dad telling me people would rip the corners off to keep them from being spent as $1 bills by mistake.
Darkwish -
"writing your DL number on the side of every roll is a major privacy issue as well."
Try telling that to numerous states that use SSNs for DL numbers. I know GA gives an option to request a non SSN for the DL #. Others may also? BTW I DO agree with you. Also how many people show their DL when asked for an ID. A DL is NOT an ID.
Easy
"I’m not sure about the US, but in the UK postage stamps are also legal tender."
Not in the US. I do remember in Italy many years ago people would leave stamps as tips when buying cappuccino for example. Don't know about now.
Getting rid of pennies has been around for a long time. I believe even though they are mostly zinc it costs more to make one than they are worth. Government loses mucho dinaro every year on them.
"Don’t know about the US, but I know in England, above a certain value (five pounds I think), pennies are no longer legal tender. Lot of people don’t know that, but it’s true."
I still think the situation here is similar to that.
I know I have read some things about this, will try and find something. Everyone that's so sure pennies are legal tender may be mistaken. None of our coins say they are legal tender. I realize I might not be making much sense but just because we assume coins are legal tender may not make that a fact. We might not have the right to pay all debts with them. This will bug me until I can find what it was that I read.
WhollyRoamin'Catholic
"I wouldn’t take a $56 dollar bill. Even if he wrote his drivers license on it."
No foolin' you by golly!
Sid Morrison
"For what it’s worth, I have in the past paid annoying charges in $2 bills."
Did you ever get some with their corners torn off? I used to get $2 bills in my pay when in the navy. I think the military was the largest users of them then.
Reason I ask is I remember my dad telling me people would rip the corners off to keep them from being spent as $1 bills by mistake.
Darkwish -
"writing your DL number on the side of every roll is a major privacy issue as well."
Try telling that to numerous states that use SSNs for DL numbers. I know GA gives an option to request a non SSN for the DL #. Others may also? BTW I DO agree with you. Also how many people show their DL when asked for an ID. A DL is NOT an ID.
Easy
"I’m not sure about the US, but in the UK postage stamps are also legal tender."
Not in the US. I do remember in Italy many years ago people would leave stamps as tips when buying cappuccino for example. Don't know about now.
Getting rid of pennies has been around for a long time. I believe even though they are mostly zinc it costs more to make one than they are worth. Government loses mucho dinaro every year on them.
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I am far from one that believes government should be in every aspect of my life. Far from it. But I agree with Johnny Cat. Not only that, no welfare for the baby factory women that pop out bastards every 9 months so I as a taxpayer can support them. I think child services needs to put all three of those children in foster homes. They deserve much better. If the children are harmed physically the law can get involved. If the children are harmed psychologically it's just "oh well." Doesn't seem right. The parents are obviously nut cases. I'm surprised not one of the previous comments mentioned CWS getting involved.
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You read things like this off and on. I think there's some arcane law about coins and paper money but I can't remember the details. Yet another case of the small guy getting squashed by the so called authorities. Was he being a horses rear? Of course he was. No laws against that. If so we'd all be in the clink. Power seldom has a sense of humor. Strange how people so easily forget their roots when they get to a position of power.
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They are truly gorgeous. My mother used to do things very much like the top one. Don't know why she didn't pass any of her talent on to me? GGG
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One of the Uncle Johns Bathroom Readers I just got has
an almost exact story. The guy there was mere minutes away from pulling it off. He pulled the tape away that was covering a little peep hole. Delivery guy just happened to look that way and saw his eyeball. GGGGGG
Gotta give them both an award for chutzpah if nothing else. GGGG
Some people pull similar ideas on boxes that are going to be sent by air. They don't realize the cargo holds aren't pressurized. What a horrible way to go.
Finally, I read of some guy that stowed away on an airliner in the wheel well for the nose wheel. Can't remember if he lived.
an almost exact story. The guy there was mere minutes away from pulling it off. He pulled the tape away that was covering a little peep hole. Delivery guy just happened to look that way and saw his eyeball. GGGGGG
Gotta give them both an award for chutzpah if nothing else. GGGG
Some people pull similar ideas on boxes that are going to be sent by air. They don't realize the cargo holds aren't pressurized. What a horrible way to go.
Finally, I read of some guy that stowed away on an airliner in the wheel well for the nose wheel. Can't remember if he lived.
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Before some get upset my comment is not about this particular case. Simply a general comment. I didn't read the entire article so it wouldn't be fair to comment on it.