Swingin' Bus Stop

ChrisLocke, I wasn't trying to point the finger of blame at the teacher - I just said how it looked to me, not knowing the circumstances.

First reaction is that it's funny - stupid kid. Second thought is questioning the circumstances. Maybe teach needs to grow up a little, too. I dunno.

As a former teacher, believe me, it isn't that hard to figure out who's cheating... I had a student throw a desk at me once because I scored both his paper and the paper of the student he'd copied a zero. To him, he had the right to copy someone else's work...as long as he actually wrote out the answers longhand. To him, that was not cheating.

But that thinking was quite common in the classes I taught in French schools.

Yeah, go figure.

Notice the handwriting is very similar.

The only thing that matters any more is ON-THE-JOB-TRAINING. The rest is B.S. to keep the kids busy while we work to feed them. :D

yes, it's the teacher that is always wrong and students are right ALL THE TIME!

haha, probably the teacher stapled the first page onto the end of the pack.
whatever explaining that kid does, it won't work! He's toast.

Maybe I'm cynical but that is most likely fake.

Poor guy. I'm sure the teacher is wrong - the student wasn't cheating, he was just "clever." Idiot teachers. Who are they to be condescending to cheating students anyway?

I taught high school biology for 32 years. I scrambled questions and answers to my multiple choice tests,even easier to do when computers came along. My first few tests saw similar results for students eye-balling a nearby classmate. It did not take them long to realize that looking at someone's answers was pretty much useless. I could not do much about it with written homework. One time I actually got two homework papers from the same student name in two different styles of handwriting. It was obvious who was the cheater and the cheatee. I stapled the papers together and had them each share 1/2 of the grade.

I think you formed the perfect rebuttal to the first half of your comment in the second half.

"Not knowing the circumstances or even what level the questions were, it’s really hard to say."

We don't know if this student has had a long history of cheating, or if the teacher was just having a bad day. We don't know what the history or circumstances are. Some students are always trying to work the system and pull a fast one on the teacher. Then again, some teachers get into teaching because they like to feel superior to the students.

It's really hard to say.

I almost received a zero for cheating in 11th grade English. If the teacher thought there was cheating going on, it was her policy to give zeros to both students since she couldn't know who copied off of who. In my case the girl behind me copied my answers but didn't know that I make up crazy answers if I don't know the correct one. It became obvious that she was the one doing the copying when my usual wise guy answers like "the milkman" or "Ronald Reagan" were used for questions about who wrote particular poems.

It did bug me a bit that I almost received a zero when I wasn't cheating nor helping the cheater cheat but in the end it was simply too funny to be upset.

That is NOT cheating. It is very clever boredom. The kid purposely moved the letters down one slot and this first answer is on the bottom.

I have no idea, ted. I think the comment bot works by alchemy sometimes.

Oh, come on. What triggered a moderation in THAT?

That teacher needs a grammar lesson. He/she also needs to be less coneescending.

I hope the teacher knew for certain that it was a case of copying and not simply an error on the student's part.

The "Did you just guess this?" seems a little mean-spirited. Not knowing the circumstances or even what level the questions were, it's really hard to say.