The Menace Within

In 1971, psychology professor Philip Zimbardo began an experiment that became known as the Stanford Prison Experiment. Students were randomly assigned to be "guards" or "prisoners" in an imaginary prison scenario. It shocked the academic world and led to new standards for ethics in psychology studies.
Forty years later, the Stanford Prison Experiment remains among the most notable—and notorious—research projects ever carried out at the University. For six days, half the study's participants endured cruel and dehumanizing abuse at the hands of their peers. At various times, they were taunted, stripped naked, deprived of sleep and forced to use plastic buckets as toilets. Some of them rebelled violently; others became hysterical or withdrew into despair. As the situation descended into chaos, the researchers stood by and watched—until one of their colleagues finally spoke out.

The public's fascination with the SPE and its implications—the notion, as Zimbardo says, "that these ordinary college students could do such terrible things when caught in that situation" —brought Zimbardo international renown. It also provoked criticism from other researchers, who questioned the ethics of subjecting student volunteers to such extreme emotional trauma. The study had been approved by Stanford's Human Subjects Research Committee, and Zimbardo says that "neither they nor we could have imagined" that the guards would treat the prisoners so inhumanely.

Stanford Magazine interviewed some of the participants in the experiment, both faculty and students. They tell their side of the story in the latest issue. Link -via Metafilter

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My saying this may be an example of real love in action. Though by saying these things I place myself in a position apart from the norm, and therefor my audience and possibly the administrators of this website, and though that carries a weight of fear with it, I am in the act of saying it anyway.

My mental process involves much of the 'old man'. Currently I can identify several threads of concern; ranging from fear of reprisal, fear of error, fear of rejection, fear of ridicule, and just a general fear of asserting myself amidst a group of 'others'. All of this serves in some measure to prevent my saying anything, despite the carefulness and solidity of my deliberations. I may have the choicest bits of wisdom to share, but the fear remains, and probably will for the remainder of my days. But this is not an excuse for complicity or inaction, my rational and conscientious mind knows that right action is consistently thwarted by fear and normalcy. Fear is normalcy; it drives the bulk of our behavior. Fear drives us further into abstraction; seeking comfort for our egos in the unreality of pure thought. From there we can look down upon reality, as if it's laws and constants were merely circumstantial to our existence. We can turn a blind eye to the wisdom of the past, and hoist ourselves up on an ivory pillar, proclaiming our methods to far surpass our ancestors, without ever having an open-interest to their sentiments. We can ignore such realities because they make us feel uncomfortable and undervalued; but such realities will not ignore us.

Just as love is an orientation which refers to all objects and is incompatible with the restriction to one object, so is reason a human faculty which must embrace the whole of the world with which man is confronted.
Erich Fromm
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When faced with a decision that pits one attachment against another we are forced to judge the weight of our attachments. When faced with a decision that pits an attachment against something we derive no self-worth from, the decision is easy, we choose our emotional attachments.

Parents have been studied as to their behavior toward children, and it is frequently found without fail that parents are only really mindful of their own children. Without even being caught off-guard in a blind experiment, but simply being questioned; parents report that they would not rescue other children from a burning schoolhouse, but would ensure their own children's safety. They would pass-up the opportunity to save children being burned alive in the front of a building, and run into the inferno to save their own children. The value of each child is ostensibly the same, the parents are rescuing their own emotional attachments.

If a person loves only one other person and is indifferent to all others, his love is not love but a symbiotic attachment, or an enlarged egotism.
Erich Fromm
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Rising above this abysmal state requires one relinquish all egotistical attachment. One must liberate themselves of the incessant need to find psychological comfort. For the ego will make life very difficult when trying to attain to true love. Begin by imagining going without your family, your friends, your spouse, your children, you should experience a loss as if you had really given these things up, or you aren't in a proper meditation. You may find your mind seeking solace in a pet cat or dog, or even something as lowly as a fish ("The world hates me, but you still love me, don't you sparky?") Give up sparky, sparky doesn't need to love you, you need to accept reality and yourself as they are without any attachment to relationships, possessions or status. Imagine you've come home and your house and all your belongings have been burned down and you are not insured. You are now destitute, with no friends, family, or even animal companionship. You are merely a person roaming through space and time, you must give up your national identity. You are not American, you aren't even Caucasian. At most you can say you 'belong' to the human race, but this must be overcome at a later time. Give it all up, and get used to not having.

"The real opposition is that between the ego-bound man, whose existence is structured by the principle of having, and the free man, who has overcome his egocentricity."
— Erich Fromm
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This happens because people fear for themselves and through various "injunctions" they are able to 'pass-the-buck' of personal responsibility and act according to how they feel they are expected to act. As parents we teach our kids not to give into peer pressure, as adults our lives are entirely defined and our self-worth determined by our peer groups. We believe our motivations are much more righteous, but we haven't done anything to secure a moral sense over and above the masses of our peers. Quite naturally, the pull of peer opinion helps conform our moral intuitions to that of our peer group. We may assume an infallibility in this role as moral judge, or assume that our judgments are inconsequential, either means of coping with uncertainty in our moral decisions serves us not to unveil delusion and correct ourselves, but merely to do away with ill feelings. Our psyches are constantly engaged in moving toward pleasure and away from fear, even within themselves, if one coping strategy is able to push the pain or suffering out of mind or into the periphery of conscious attention, we are temporarily satisfied, at least enough to convince us there is no problem. A powerful injunction for these types of experiments is "The experiment needs you to continue." Not surprisingly, the subject is able to pass responsibility, and thus the pain of having to choose, onto the abstraction 'experiment'. "I am not choosing, the experiment is choosing." People in this situation, as in the above example ("La Jeu de la Mort") often say to their victims "It's not me doing it, they want me to. I am only doing what I am being made to do."

"Our conscious motivations, ideas, and beliefs are a blend of false information, biases, irrational passions, rationalizations, prejudices, in which morsels of truth swim around and give the reassurance albeit false, that the whole mixture is real and true. The thinking processes attempt to organize this whole cesspool of illusions according to the laws of plausibility. This level of consciousness is supposed to reflect reality; it is the map we use for organizing our life."
— Erich Fromm (To Have or to Be? The Nature of the Psyche)
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It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
Krishnamurti

La Jeu de la Mort
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1i8bZrXLqU
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If there is one true faith, then being raised by Atheists is no different than being raised by parents of any of the other false faiths. So if it turns out the Catholics are right and all non-Catholics are S.O.L., then any children adopted by Jews, Protestants, or Muslims will have been denied the chance to worship the Almighty God. In brief, this is bullsh*t. Religious freedom includes the freedom not to be religious.
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Absolutely NOT.

It's disgusting that the judge should say the child would be influenced by atheist parents and not recognize that she'd be influenced by religious parents also. Just how long ago was that state constitution written?
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By that same logic, he should revoke custody of all children under his jurisdiction, because ALL parents influence their children's choices, religious or otherwise.

In my opinion, this judge should be disbarred immediately. He is obviously not fit to pass judgement over anyone if he lets his personal prejudices determine his rulings like that.
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So I noticed that Church and State are still seperate in this country. Because Freedom of Religion was definently taken out of the constitution like, ages ago.

That's just wrong. That's really just wrong. I plan to adopt a child later in my life and it would kill me to know it would never happen because I'm a Polytheist. Theres no way this will ever be upheld.
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I think it makes an excellent point in favor of stripping all religious reference from government and law, and if you have a judge that can't put religious views aside for rationale thought they should be tossed off the bench.
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Absolutely not. What ever happened to separation of church and state? As an adopted child my parents were Christians. I went to church every Sunday. When I became old enough to decide for myself, I did. With so many children needing a stable caring home, all that should matter is whether or not the parents are capable and willing to care for and love the child. Generally the term "Almighty God" is referenced in Judeo-Christian faiths, so does that mean anyone who is not of one of those faiths is not able to adopt a child in New Jersey? I believe this is more rightly a question for the New Jersey judiciary ethics committee.

Sincerely,
Not a Christian...though I do give my parents faith the utmost respect, as I do all faiths.
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Hmmmm... So, if an atheist adopts a child then they're presumed to be restricting the growth of the child's belief structure. Can't the same be said of any religion or lack thereof?
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Oh the hypocrisy in America just kills me! I can't stop laughing!

Materialist nature aside, the way America screams and yells about how Church & State are separate and all that shite, you still have to swear to the Bible in court.

And this shite about not being able to adopt because one doesn't believe in that stupid thing.

Only one thing is an absolute in life, and one thing only:

WE ALL DIE.
WHEN WE ALL DIE. WE CAN'T TAKE ANY OF THIS MATERIAL STUFF WITH YOU.

So be kind to the children. And make the children have some more respect in America, mmmmmmmmmkay?

And screw god up the arse.
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Absolutely not. What says that they won't send her to Sunday School with her schoolmates when she's older?

Unfortunately, with the way things are going in politics, it will probably be the first of many denials because of going against the Christian norm.
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before i noticed this was dated Monday, Dec. 07, 1970, i was going to say that a child has just as much of an oppurtunity to worship something in an atheist hosehold as a child has of becoming atheist in a christian household... but i dont think a decision like that would fly today so it doesnt matter.
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The ruling was reversed...

IN THE MATTER OF THE ADOPTION OF "E", A CHILD, BY JOHN P. BURKE AND CYNTHIA D. BURKE, PLAINTIFFS-APPELLANTS

Supreme Court of New Jersey

59 N.J. 36; 279 A.2d 785

July 1, 1971, Decided

COUNSEL:
Mr. Albert G. Besser and Mr. Leo Pfeffer, of the New York Bar, argued the cause for plaintiffs-appellants (Messrs. Hannoch, Weisman, Stern & Besser, attorneys; Mr. Leo Pfeffer, of the New York Bar, Mr. Albert G. Besser and Mr. Dean A. Gaver on the brief).
Mr. Edward Terner argued the cause for intervenor, Children's Aid and Adoption Society of New Jersey.
Mr. Mark F. Hughes, Jr., argued the cause as court-appointed amicus curiae.
Mrs. Joan W. Murphy, Deputy Attorney General, argued the cause amicus curiae for New Jersey Bureau of Children's Services (Mr. George F. Kugler, Jr., Attorney General of New Jersey, attorney; Mr. Stephen Skillman, Assistant Attorney General, of counsel; Miss Joan W. Murphy, Deputy Attorney General, on the brief).
Mr. Arnold Jay Gold argued the cause amicus curiae for Council on Adoptable Children (Mr. Barry G. Radick on the brief).
Mr. George A. Breur argued the cause amicus curiae for New Jersey Council of Churches (Messrs. Breur and Breur, attorneys; Mr. G. Thomas Breur and Mr. George A. Breur on the brief).
Mr. Charles B. Blackmar, of the Missouri Bar, submitted a brief amicus curiae for Department of Church in Society, Division of Homeland Ministries of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in the United States and Canada, and Division of Human Relations, Board of Christian Social Concerns, United Methodist Church.

JUDGES:
For reversal -- Chief Justice Weintraub and Justices Jacobs, Francis, Proctor, Hall, Schettino and Mountain. For affirmance -- None. The opinion of the Court was delivered by Proctor, J. Weintraub, C.J. (concurring). Weintraub and Jacobs, JJ., concur in result.

PROCTOR, J.

The county court denied plaintiffs' application for a final decree of adoption. The court held that plaintiffs' lack of belief in a Supreme Being rendered them unfit to be adoptive parents. The plaintiffs appealed to the Appellate Division, and prior to argument there, we certified the case on our own motion. We reverse.
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Here is a link to the decision that reversed the lower court ruling. Gotta say, I agree with the appellate on this one. It was a horrendous ruling by the lower court judge.

http://www.americanadoptions.com/adoption/article_view/article_id/2435?pg=1
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It doesn't matter that the article was from 1970; the fact that anyone could be THAT stupid with religious rubbish is incomprehensible to the rational mind, though not surprising.

Let it be a warning: with the United States of today being gradually overrun by Christian fundamentalist loonies, it's only a matter of time before such attitudes become mainstream, and when that happens, you're all done for.

America has a lot of smart people. Unfortunately, they're way outnumbered by the religious twats who believe in creationist claptrap, and your educational system is already reflecting that. I reckon that in less than 20 years from now, atheists in America will be discriminated against in more ways than this story from 1970 shows. I bet they won't even be able to get a job.

Think I'm exaggerating? Look at American society today, your idiot of a president (which the Christian loonies voted into power in the first place), and then call me in 2028...
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40 years ago, huh? So, how's the "kid" doing now? How about tracking her down and asking, eh?

A more recent story is the lady who lost custody of her child because the judge didn't like her being active in the Church of the SubGenius. Why isn't this story more in the news? It's profoundly wrong and absurd!
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I think God would better like a man that has the balls to say "I believe there is no God" than a coward that says "I believe there is a God, because if I don't, and i am wrong, i will be in big trouble"
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Aw, come on Alex! You're on the easy side when you present an outdated article with behaviours from another time.
I'm sure you can find a good article about native americans in the XIX century that will stir some controversy too.

:p
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Pudifoot, I disagree. I believe a man who only believes in God because he is afraid not to does NOT really believe in God.

A few of the comments here gave insights as to what you believed the future of this country might be like.

"Let it be a warning: with the United States of today being gradually overrun by Christian fundamentalist loonies, it’s only a matter of time before such attitudes become mainstream, and when that happens, you’re all done for.....I reckon that in less than 20 years from now, atheists in America will be discriminated against in more ways than this story from 1970 shows. I bet they won’t even be able to get a job."

"Unfortunately, with the way things are going in politics, it will probably be the first of many denials because of going against the Christian norm."

I believe this country is going in completely the OPPOSITE direction. Like that it won't be long before you aren't allowed to express your faith in any way...no matter what it is, for fear of stepping on someone's toes.
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I watched a simpsons episode for school in philosophy class where Lisa is torn between celebrating Christmas, a Christian holiday with her family when she is a buddhist. Turns out that buddhism accepts diversity...therefore she could celebrate christianity as well lol. Odd.
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typical american doublethink:
The Taliban are to be punished for forcing people to become muslims, but in the US courts may force you into christianity...
That's maybe even worse than teaching intelligent design
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Hmm. How did a 37 year old story come to your attention, anyway? This is the sort of thing that might show up as an OUTRAGE! incident cited in an email from a eight-wing fundraising group. I got two yesterday myself, both about how the Federal Government wants to sue the Salvation Army. I guess that there are people who will froth and rant about these faux travesties, but they're not Neatorama readers.

You must not live in New Jersey, or you'd know that this event occurred before a lot of the Neatomarans were even born.
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here's what i'm wondering... did the judge ask them if they were of a specific religion or did they just come right out and say they were athiests? a part of religious freedom (and this may sound really awful) is kinda like 'don't ask; don't tell.' it goes along the lines of a job interview... they don't ask you what religion you are because it doesn't matter. and if you tell them right out, you face the problem of saying the "wrong" thing. it just doesn't matter.
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I believe that they should not only be denied the privilege of adopting children, but they should also not be allowed to procreate! They should both be sterilized ASAP -- the last thing we need in America is a breeding pair of heathens!
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Eh man, here's a thought:

What happens when an adopted person marries another adopted person and they adopt a person and that person marries another adopted person and then they have a child and marry an adopted person and then somewhere in all that stupid mess, by accident, an adopted child marries his or her brother or sister or son or daughter or mother or father cos they didn't know, and they have a messed up disabled kid and when they finally do a DNA test they realize they're related, so they either throw it away in shame and/or they put that up for adoption?

Did anybody think about that?

Would that make a good movie, or would that create more disabled people we don't need?

Yeah that's right, it's all screwy.
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NIMITZ

actually if you read the story more closely you'd see that the couple adopted 31 years ago and have now adopted another child, or were trying to at least.

They were denied on the 2nd adoption for being atheists.

In fact he was an atheist she was a Pantheist,so does believe in gods.
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The judge must be on medication as he grossly misinterpreted the state constitution. Giving someone religious freedom does not require that the individual be religious, and, in fact, would be more likely in a non-denominational or atheist home. A strong Catholic family, for instance, would probably prohibit the child from investigating Lutheranism and vice-versa. Such a constricted reading/interpretation of this section of the constitution would render just about everyone ineligible. The only argument the judge could feasibly defend using that section of the constitution would be that the atheist parents had made definitive statements that they would NOT allow a child they adopted to investigate, join or follow ANY religion.

Final word: The idiot should be removed from the bench.
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