World's First Automatic Shotgun

1. johan
   February 3rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm

   This in the hands of Blackwater? Very scary...

2. Lionel Ash
   February 3rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm

   Last line: "The fear factor becomes tremendous."
   No kidding.

3. DonH
   February 3rd, 2008 at 6:41 pm

   The old S. Africans had a similar device they dubbed the 'streetsweeper,' I recall.

4. VonSkippy
   February 3rd, 2008 at 6:43 pm

   "Spray and pray" is not a proven tactical strategy. It's mainly used by untrained (or under trained) soldiers put into a scenario they're not prepped for.

5. Vako
   February 3rd, 2008 at 7:00 pm

   Future Weapons is a good show. The host is amusing because he only has one inflection and tome to his voice.

6. ECA
   February 3rd, 2008 at 7:31 pm

   This is abit old...
   its been around and re-developed a few times, sence the 1980's (?)..
   Its a MEAN weapon, and Im still wondering WHY, ALL USA soldier arent carry this gun.

7. avraamov
   February 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 pm

   i challenge that man to an arm-wrestle. then we'll see who's boss.

8. rdubs
   February 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm

   First thing that's wrong with that design is that it fires 2 1/2's, whereas you could get much more expendability with a universal design that has 2 3/4's, 3's and 3 1/2's.

9. Rob
   February 3rd, 2008 at 7:43 pm

   I can't help wondering how this might relate to all those ads for penis enlargement that show up in my spam folder.
   Seriously creepy.

10. NiteWhite
    February 3rd, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    I just pre-ordered one.

11. Tim
    February 3rd, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Hardly going to rewrtie the rules of urban warfare...

12. su.wei
    February 3rd, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    this would be so sweet in halo...

13. Tommy
    February 3rd, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    I need me one of them for deer huntin'....YYYeeee HHaaawww!

14. Angstrom
    February 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    did it really need the creepy pervert voice ... all whispery like that?

    Like the sex pest version of Dirty Harry.

15. SiteSeer
    February 3rd, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    @ECA: too much collateral damage, shotgun shells are too bulky to carry very many off (and just look at those huge magazine drums), not so great accuracy at range, etc etc. This is a great weapon for short distance sweeps or a SWAT environment, probably not so good in war zones that throw much more variability into the mix. I'm guessing it could be useful on one or two men in five man squad?

16. mattytiz
    February 3rd, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    Scary.

    Love su.wei's comment ^^

17. Adam Fuhrer
    February 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    Really is one of the coolest shotguns ever...

18. Renacier
    February 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Great. Imagine someone walking into a bank with this.
    How about a school? SWAT team breaking down the wrong door?

    Way to simultaneously lower the bar and raise the stakes for human error.

19. MightyCow
    February 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Damn, but humans are really good at coming up with new ways of killing each other more efficiently.

20. Bob
    February 3rd, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Damn this people for inventing this killing device! It's sad to live in a world where someone spend his life working on better ways to kill. This is sick!

21. Vako
    February 3rd, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    O.K. I just noticed something. The designation of the shotgun is"AA12". A.A. = Alcoholics Anonymous, and "12" is the number of steps in A.A.'s twelve step program.

    Therefore, this new automatic shotgun is the weapon of choice for recovering drunks.

    Go sobriety !!!

22. Thebes
    February 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    I've seen video of full auto Saiga 12ga shotguns with 20rd drum mags. So, its hard to say this is the first.

    As to why the full US Army wouldn't use them, they are not a long range weapon. They would be good for an entry team, or to keep a position from being overrun, but beyond 100 yards or so they would not be a highly effective weapon. They are basically good where spray and pray is a good tactic, which is in close quarters.

    BTW, for those criticizing weapons development, without the rifle we would still all be ruled by kings and priests. Learn some history. Seriously, do you think the people of what is now the USA would ever have been able to wage an effective war against England with archers and knights?

23. Smith
    February 4th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Thebes:

    Yes, I think you should learn some history..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

24. Fezdango
    February 4th, 2008 at 1:24 am

    VonSkippy Says:
    February 3rd, 2008 at 6:43 pm
    “Spray and pray” is not a proven tactical strategy. It’s mainly used by untrained (or under trained) soldiers put into a scenario they’re not prepped for."

    You're moron. Go back to playing FPSs.

25. Fezdango
    February 4th, 2008 at 1:36 am

    and yes i realize the magnificent irony in me forgetting the "a" in my sentence. Regardless...

    lawl

26. fz
    February 4th, 2008 at 2:27 am

    How dead do you want someone to be to have to use that gun.

    p.s i want one

27. Pol x
    February 4th, 2008 at 5:02 am

    Didn't H&K develop the CAW (combat assualt weapon) which was a fully auto shotgun.

    Over and above that...BLACKWATER!!!

28. pfelelep
    February 4th, 2008 at 5:47 am

    scary how he gets excited about killing people as "stuff"

29. Kirkburn
    February 4th, 2008 at 8:13 am

    Thebes, that some fun ignorance about my country you've got going on there.

    Oddly enough, I think it's now the US that's ruled by priests, not England.

30. NiteWhite
    February 4th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    Um, Kirkburn, Christianity in America is declining in record numbers, and Atheism has more than doubled in the last decade. The only thing Priests do anymore is touch our young boys, and England is not immune from that.

31. munky
    February 4th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Terrific - more new ways to kill our fellow human beings.

    Can't stand that guy and his soft porn, hard-on for guns, macho voiceover - and 'Future Weapons' is just plain awful teevy, but plenty good propaganda for all those lard arsed homeboys and couch potatoes who love it when 'the troops' nail some 'ragheads' cos, y'know, they're just untermensch, right?

    S'funny - would all you war-lovers be so enthusiastic about 'Future weapons' if it featured the latest big-balls death machines from, say, Russia, China or even Cuba? (Notwithstanding, those countries aren't in the same league as Old Uncle Sam and his privatised military contractors when it comes to devising new ways of slaughter but you get my point. (Nah, you probably don't...))

    Fcuking human race - where are our alien overlords when we need them..?

32. CheeseDuck
    February 4th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Imagine that in a school shooting...

33. DrFelix
    February 4th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Wow, it only took 31 posts until someone with a brain left a reasonably human comment.

34. munky
    February 4th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    @ DrFelix - thanks for that

35. Xinavera
    February 4th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    Last time I checked, the US *is* ruled by priests and kings.

    It's an impressive piece of engineering, but so is the atomic bomb or a ballistic missile submarine.

36. Timbo
    February 4th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    This report is wrong. This is NOT the first automatic shotgun. I have pictures of both me and my buddy shooting an automatic shotgun that looks nothing like this a few years ago at a machine-gun shoot.

    Incidentally, the "street-sweeper" guns of years past were all semi-automatics.

37. Azsen
    February 4th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    That's impressive, but it's not the world's first automatic shotgun. Haven't you heard of the USAS-12?

38. Vako
    February 5th, 2008 at 1:52 am

    @Munky and DrFelix;

    Liking a show does not make one a lardass good ol' boy. I hate to break up the mutual anger admiration fest but I've always noticed that hippie/peacenik/leftist types are uually the first to resort to petty vitriol. They seem so angry. I don't say I like the show because I get off on seeing other ethnicities being scraped off. Because I don't. And I would love to see a documentary about the newest developments in weaponry from other countries. I guess I don't fit into your angry malcontent generalozation of the lardass American bigot who happens the have a "teevee".
    Both of you have crappy attitudes. Go get laid or something. Or at least think before you post against other people.

39. Larfin Jackarse
    February 5th, 2008 at 7:01 am

    LOL Vako 21

    Automatic shotguns...I remember seeing a Pommie show on the Marines (UK Marines, Naval Sailing Ship Soldiers) in the sailing era and they had a pistol that took a gunpowder plug in each (at least six if not nine) barrel gun with some small shot. Cocking may have been automatic by trigger use (but I don't remember). I`se member thinkin` twas a hand helden shotus gunus.

    I think was used to repel boarders along with the short sword.

    Then again it was on the televis so was prob lies.

40. NiteWhite
    February 5th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    I would like to 'erase' a few of you guys with my new automatic shotgun.

41. DrFelix
    February 5th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    @ Vako

    I don´t get your point with leftists/vitriol. Can´t be really angry without a weapon in your hand?

    And I can´t hear those comments like "I´m just interested in the technology". It´s technology to kill or hurt people. Can´t be separated. I assume you´re buying Playboy because of the interviews? People arguing like this and at the same time accusing whomever of bigotry are losing all of their credibility.

    And I give a **** where waepon- lover shows come from. Only I doubt there are some outside the U.S. Or only without the refined marketing techniques from Home Order Television - which have obviously washed your brain so thoroughly that the your interest in weapons now defines who has a crappy attitude.

    Only useful part of your comment was to get laid. Not that I needed this clue, thanks anyway.

42. munky
    February 6th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    @ Vako

    I'm not angry, watch what you want.
    What I am is extremely depressed that - with all our potential and the highs and lows of our various cultures - the 'best' things certain sectors of (various/many/all) societies can come up with to celebrate are more ingenious ways to kill each other.
    I don't need another teevy show to tell me how delicate human tissue is or how it can be spread to meat paste by yet another killing machine.

    As to getting laid, thanks for the tip - must try that some time.

43. arctic_front
    February 6th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    I think that all weapons are just dandy. The only problem some people have with them is WHO is using it, and for what purpose. A 30.06 hunting rifle will kill people just as effectively as a trophy buck. But nobody gets all bent out of shape and preachy when you shoot a deer, well except the PETA folks.

    I would wager that the two peace-niks would be damn happy to have the AA 12 if they found themselves having to fight off a dozen armed bad-guys with assault weapons, charging at them in a terrorist-type attack? But I could be wrong. A real peace-nik would just surrender right off the bat..... That makes it a lot easier for the terrorist to behead them later...... saves ammunition too.

    Wankers!

44. Riz
    February 7th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    @ Arctic

    Of course I would appreciate any weapon that gives me an edge over any opponent, especially one who seeks to kill me. But self defense is not the issue. The real lament of many, not just "leftists" or "liberals" (which are such vague terms as to not define or identify anyone), is that such great innovations and human effort are being put into the development of weaponry; while the real roots of the problems and disease of violent conflict remain unaddressed.

    As for you scenario about "peace-niks" being attacked by terrorists in a terrorist type attack, and then later being beheaded. I still find it a bit vague. What do you mean by a terrorist? what precisely do you mean by a terrorist type attack? do you mean one meant to cause terror? or merely any attack against what you perceive to be your allies? Not all militant groups resort to beheading so are you refering only to middle-eastern radicalist groups?

    I think you need to be more clear, the situation might be more complicated than you believe.

45. munky
    February 7th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    @ arctic_front

    Sir, I have no problem with appropriate armed response in the right circumstances, but I still see this video as nothing more than a cheap promo, shot with low-fi porm movie production values, breathlessly marketing new ways of killing people to an audience of knuckle heads attuned to the normalising of brutality for the sake of entertainment.

    As to what would happen were I ever to be attacked by wild eyed terrorists, the chances are that I would die.

    And that's the real tragedy.

46. anon123
    February 12th, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Great.. 'targets'+'spraying'+'shrapnel'+blackwater mercs= shooting even more civilians/bystanders than ever!
    *hurls*

    I hope against hopes that discovery channel put ethics and the prospect of actual human beings getting peppered somewhere in that program..

47. IHaveSeentheFnords
    June 29th, 2008 at 10:04 am

    DrFelix, Munky, & others,

    I can see your point about devoting technology to killing people, but the reality of life is people will threaten our interests, and we have to defend those interests. As the way wars are fought changes, this weapon meets a real need in modern urban warfare better than any other weapon. It is a "technology to kill or hurt people", but I've seen enough of the World (in person, not just what's shown on TV) to know that sometimes you have to hurt people to protect others.

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