Relationships Between 10 Classic Authors

Posted by Stacy in Book & Lit, Neatorama Only on December 29, 2008 at 8:12 pm


Lots of people know about the relationship between fantasy writers C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien, but who know Bram Stoker stole Oscar Wilde’s true love out from under his nose? I didn’t, at least, so I think these relationships between classic authors are terribly interesting. I included Lewis and Tolkien for those who didn’t know about their friendship. There are a lot more where this came from - I might make this a two-parter. And if you’re impatient and don’t want to wait for my second part, check out the book Secret Lives of Great Authors by Robert Schnakenberg. Very interesting read.

1. Bram Stoker was a frequent guest at Oscar Wilde’s parents’ house. Oscar’s mom, Lady Jane, was a poet who liked to keep literary company. Bram found himself in Lady Jane’s circle, and eventually met Florence Balcombe, who had previously been Lady Jane’s daughter-in-law to be. Yep, Florence was once engaged to Oscar Wilde. At least, by some accounts. Other accounts say they dated seriously and Oscar merely wanted to marry her. At any rate, Florence ended up marrying Bram Stoker instead. When Oscar heard she was engaged, he wrote her a letter and said that he was leaving Ireland and would never come back. He mostly stayed true to his word – he only came back twice for a brief visits.

2. C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien were good friends since they first met at Oxford and belonged to the Inklings group together. But they hated one another’s books. When Tolkien was writing a new character for Lord of the Rings and tried to describe the character to Lewis, Lewis famously responded, “Not another frigging dwarf!” Except, you know, he actually swore. But this is a family blog.

3. Louisa May Alcott loved Henry David Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson. Really loved them. Like Alcott, they were residents of Concord, Massachusetts, so she had friendships with both. She and Thoreau used to exchange ideas and he would play his flute for her. The Emerson infatuation may have started when Ralph Waldo gave her the book Goethe’s Correspondence with a Child, which involves a young girl in love with a horny old poet. You can see why Louisa may have been flattered and sort of started stalking him – she would leave flowers on his doorstep, write him love letters but never send them, and sit outside of his window and sing him songs in German. He was married and had a daughter just six years younger than Louisa and never returned her affections.

4. F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway were just three years apart in age. They met at the Dingo Bar in Paris in 1925, when Hemingway was 25 and Fitzgerald was 28. The Great Gatsby had just been published and looked to be a big hit; Hemingway, on the other hand, was a relatively unknown author. They were close friends for a while – Fitzgerald was notoriously insecure about himself in almost every aspect, and when his wife once insulted the size of his manhood, Fitz actually dropped trou and asked Hemingway if everything looked normal to him. Hemingway assured his friend that things appeared to be up to par. But the friendship quickly deteriorated. As Fitzgerald’s career fell and he descended further into alcoholism, Hemingway’s work started picking up. Hemingway started making fun of Fitzgerald to newspapers and magazines, to the point that Fitzgerald actually pleaded with his old friend to stop. The reason for the sudden cold shoulder? Hemingway was said to have been disgusted by Fitzgerald’s alcoholism, because he would make huge public scenes and embarrass himself and everyone around him when he was drunk.

5. And, speaking of Hemingway, he was also once very good friends with Gertrude Stein. He met her in Paris as well, at the introduction of their mutual friend, writer Sherwood Anderson (Anderson also introduced Hemingway to Ezra Pound). She reminded him of his mother both physically and otherwise. He even openly used Gertrude to try to work out some of his issues with his mother. She ended up introducing him to bullfighting, Spain, and prose. He used her as his sounding board and would completely rewrite something at her suggestion. He even made her the Godmother of his first son, Jack.


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19 comments to "Relationships Between 10 Classic Authors"

  1. DaveL
    December 29th, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    But did you know that JFK was schtupping Emily Post?

  2. Susano
    December 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    I understand C.S. Lewis’s comment to be”Not another elf!”

  3. Patrick B
    December 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    By reputation you would think that Lewis would have been trying to convert Tolkien, but it was the other way around. Tolkien was a Christian first and was the one who convinced Lewis.

    I’m just glad they both wrote since their respective books are some of my favorites.

  4. violet
    December 29th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    A man a bullfighter red smells round buttons my coat this coat this man this father quick lines blood running down a coat, a coat a cape a red cape this man and hills of white elephants a man. Buttons.

  5. expat
    December 29th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    And Truman Capote was childhood friends with Harper Lee, including being the basis for Dill in To Kill a Mockingbird.

  6. lir
    December 29th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    And, while in group meetings both Tolkien and Lewis and several other authors would read snippets of what they were working on to each other for advice, until Lewis started copying Tolkien, and thus Tolkien stopped reading in the group.

  7. Ali S.
    December 29th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Fascinating stuff. Though I do have to say I absolutely loathe “The Great Gatsby”. Never shall I bore myself with such trivial literature!

  8. Easy
    December 30th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    I thought Oscar Wilde was gay? Doesn’t mean he can’t get married I spose.

  9. E@L
    December 30th, 2008 at 5:32 am

    And Sam Beckett so idolized James Joyce that he went to as far as to insist on not only wearing the same style of tennis shoe, but to cram his feet into the same SIZE as Joyce. (This may be apocryphal. Well it IS apocryphal, but it may be untrue as well.)

    Easy- “Doesn’t mean he can’t get married I spose.” Not in California. Ho ho ho…

  10. Evilbeagle
    December 30th, 2008 at 6:19 am

    Great post!

  11. Idil
    December 30th, 2008 at 6:35 am

    Thanks, this was really interesting! =D looking forward to part 2 if it will be up.

  12. cs
    December 30th, 2008 at 7:57 am

    links to sources? do we just take your word for it?

  13. ted
    December 30th, 2008 at 8:23 am

    Yeah, I really doubt Oscar Wilde was all that concerned about losing a woman to Bram Stoker.

    It’s an example, though, of how gay men were (and still are, in most places) pressured to marry women to appear normal.

  14. Stacy
    December 30th, 2008 at 9:03 am

    CS - largely the book The Secret Lives of Great Authors by Robert Schnakenberg. Thanks for mentioning… I’ll link to it in the post, ’cause it’s a really interesting read Neatoramanauts might be interested in.

  15. Stacy
    December 30th, 2008 at 9:09 am

    @Easy - he was, or at least he was bisexual. He also married and had two children.

  16. Cap'n H
    December 30th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    Tolkien was not only a Christian in a nation that was predominantly Christian and still is. The significance of Tolkien’s religion is that he was a Catholic in a nation with a state religion that was founded as anti-Catholic. It’s a fact that until 1829, Catholics lacked the same civil liberties and protections of the law as Anglicans/Episcopalians.

    There’s some fascinating stuff here, and I would hope for more. Perhaps the relationships between Mary Shelly and Lord Byron shall be counted on the list. She was a young bride, and after a stormy night of telling ghost stories with her husband Percy and their friend, Lord Byron, wihle in Switzerland, she proceeded to pen a novel that would result in one of the most notorious horror archetypes. The name of the novel was “Frankenstein.”

  17. Robert
    December 31st, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    @lir: Yes, the LOTR movies came out before the Narnia movies. It doesn’t mean that Lewis copied Tolkien. By the way, Lewis wrote other stuff, but I’ll bet you wouldn’t know that since none of it has made it to the big screen.

  18. liphttam1
    January 1st, 2009 at 12:52 am

    C.S. lewis and J.R.R. Tolken were freinds and hated eachothers work. I think that they were jealous instead.

  19. Adventurous Wench women's travel
    January 9th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Very interesting story here. I specially like Cap’n H contribution on Frankenstein that I had to google it and verify.

    Birds of the same feather really do flock together.


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