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The Duggars' 18th Child

By Alex in Baby & Kids on Dec 19, 2008 at 2:12 pm


Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar just got a new addition to their (already very, very large) family: their 18th child! And keeping with traditions (they name all their children starting with the letters J), here’s Jordyn-Grace Makiya Duggar who came in at 7 pounds, 3 ounces:

"The ultimate Christmas gift from God," said Jim Bob Duggar, the father of the 18 children. "She’s just absolutely beautiful, like her mom and her sisters."

Now, are 18 kids enough? Here’s what Jim Bob has to say about it:

"We both would love to have more," he said.

Link | The Duggar Family Official Website (Now, do they change the name of their The Learning Channel reality show "18 Kids & Counting"?)

(Photo: Beth Hall/AP)

Previously on Neatorama: The Duggars are Expecting Their 18th Baby


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  1. Craig
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    That's disgusting. Humans aren't supposed to breed like dogs. Sex between them must be like throwing a hot dog into a cave.

  2. Squeal
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Yeah this is disgusting. The planet is going to be overrun with humans because they can't control themselves enough to stop breeding.

    Honestly, I hope all those kids turn out to be useless drug addicts.

  3. Persephone
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Vagina: Not a clown car.

    They work to have this many children. They plan around Michelle's fertility. They could not financially support these children without the television shows and charitable donations. The parents don't manage the children, they manage a schedule that requires the older children to care for the younger children.

    The girls are taught that they're only function is to marry and bear children for their church. The boys do not plan to go to college, but instead take jobs and start businesses that will not support their future large families.

    Considering the over-population of Earth, these people's selfishness should find them paying the rest of us for each child they bear.

  4. samlive
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    this stuff really freaks me out. really.

    and not like "oh man im freakin out-- i'm seeing purple flying dinosaurs"

    i mean like "what. the. hell."

  5. TeaFizz
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Several of the Duggar children were heard saying, "but I thought *I* was the ultimate christmas gift from god!"

  6. Tony
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Her vagina reminds me of a clown car.

  7. Xeronimo
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    So they'll simply continue to create babies until they're not physically able anymore?

    And who pays for them?? They must have HUGE bills ...

  8. OS Perry
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    This isn't the 17th Century, where you need a big brood to help on the farm... Disgusting... irresponsible... Its totally alien to me why they would do this. Shame on them.

  9. Frau
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    As the popular meme goes "Vagina. Still not a clown car."

    It really boggles my mind though. Just how her uterus still functions. It can still hold a child, provide it with nutrition and not expell the child if she coughs or farts.Or that she has not had some sort of uterine prolapse.

  10. Phos....
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    That they'd want to have that many children HAS to be borne of some sort of psychiatric illness. I think they call it blind adherence to organized religion.

    That many children in one family indoctrinated into whatever weird version of religion they practice scares the bejeebers out of me.

    I feel sorry for the children, and I'm willing to bet that for those kids whose ideological pendulums swing away from that of the family (and it WILL happen, this I guarantee), it's gonna swing far, and it's not gonna be pretty.

  11. AndyIII
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    Rent 'Idiocracy' on DVD. Starts to make more sense every time I see it...scary sense.

    And I'm sorry, I find it hard to believe they can bring even a fraction of the attention that's needed to numbers 5-18. I don't find any of this wonderful or miraculous.

  12. SenorMysterioso
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Im not sure how I feel about the Duggars. My initial reaction is negative but they really arent doing anything wrong. They are a tight nit family that loves each other, they live within their means and their frugal lifestyle lets them afford so many children. I watched their television show a few times and it seems that some smart real estate investments have paid large dividends for them. Im guessing, though they may say otherwise, that the money they receive for the show is a big motivation for doing it.

    I think the main things that I do not relate to is their religious convictions and the home-schooling of their children. Neither of these things are really threatening but without knowing them it makes people think they are cultist or something odd.

  13. thebonemachine
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    "Now, what was your name again?"

  14. Miss Curly
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Stop. Them. Now.

  15. Chris
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    I won't comment on how obscene I find their endless breeding. What really blinds me with anger is the fact they spelled the kid's name "Jordyn," as if "Jordan" isn't contemptible enough.

  16. Robin
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Horrible people. The only way they can raise these kids is to have the older ones play "deputy parents" to the younger ones, which means the older kids are robbed of years of their own childhood. I know. I went through it myself, but I had only 3 younger sisters to care for. The only way they can raise enough money to feed them all is to do TV spots and exploit them like a circus side show.

  17. NicoNicoNico
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    You know what's really scary? They live about 30 minutes down the road from me. Yeah. I haven't ever seen them out shopping but, if I do, I'll have to resist the urge to throw something.

  18. Xinavera
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Look, your DNA isn't good enough that we want 17 copies of it running around. And unfortunately, each of those 17 kids gets just as many votes as the rest of us.

  19. USA-USA
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    The earth isn't overpopulated. Newsflash, books like The Population Bomb were completely wrong.

    You guys only hate on the Duggars because they're religious and they've built a family outside of the societal "norm".

    Go back to your nanny-state-loving, religion-hating lives.

  20. zav
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    USA-USA. Please stop being stupid. Obviously, you have no education in population dynamics and resource allocation. Rock on with your blind faith and patriotism in all that is USA is AWESOME!. I hate the Duggars because their blind faith in religion is making 18 more preprogrammed idiots. If you love blind faith in religion over reason, why don't you vote for Bush one more time? 600 + BILLION in Iraq and the never even had WMD. Get your head out of the sand man. Travel out of the US once and a while. It will do us some good.

  21. JM
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    @USA-USA: Moron! The population of the USA (not to mention the REST of the World) is growing exponentially. This means higher food consumption, over-crowding, greater pollution emissions, land-use issues, etc... No one hates them because they are religious, they hate them because they choose (like yourself) to ignore anything that is not right in front of their faces. Many people (gays, multi-racial couples, multi-faith couples, etc...) build families out of the "societal 'norm'", but the only people whining about them are the religious nuts (such as the Duggars and other fundaMENTAL Christians). Get out of your house, listen to something besides talk radio and take your head out of your ass. I'm sick of fundie, right-wing nutjobs blaming left-leaning people for the worlds problems.

  22. becca
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    I can't wait until one of the daughters runs away from home to be a doctor or a lawyer.

  23. Jenny
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    USA-USA, seriously? when is the earth over populated then? when all the destruction that the people so far here made expands with more people and eventually destroys the earth?

    what scares me definitely is not the 18 children so far,i have nothing against them personally.
    but what scares me is that each of those kids are trained, yes trained, to have at least eighteen more, and so on and so on, that scares me.

    humans are so selfish.

  24. JamesG
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Check out the photo album on the family's website. In virtually every shot of the girls, they are washing clothes, cooking, ironing, holding babies, and other mommy stuff. The boys are invariably playing soccer, playing foosball, playing chess, playing on their computers, or as the captions say, "looking on" while their sisters work.

  25. Goghstarry
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Seriously though, I wonder how many of these kids are thinking they'll not have any children at all. My biggest beef is that once mom pops out another baby it's handed off to one of the girls and she's forced to play mom. I think asking the older ones to help out occasionally is fine, but this is insane. How well could they possible know each child? Do any of these children feel like they have a relationship with their parents?

  26. Die Leftists Die
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    This couple had secured SSI payouts to 4 useless Baby Boomers. They should be commended.

  27. US of EFFING A
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    Beautiful white American family. It's nice to see a big family that is not mexican AND is legal. God Bless the Duggars.

  28. LisaL
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    I think it's pretty gross and selfish on their part for wanting more kids. I bet the ones they have now barely get any time with the parents.
    So I bet it's going to go the same way as the parents... the kids are going to grow up wanting an asston of kids to fill some void.

  29. Jordan Jordan
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    Hey! What's wrong with Jordan!??!!

    :D

  30. DOJ
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    We get it, you can breed. Have any other tricks?

  31. Juliana
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    People like these amaze me - not in a good way. My husband's ex has had 10 children by 7 different dads and it was all because she doesn't want to have to work; all she does is sit on her fat Jabba the Slut a** and collect child support. I don't even have kids because I can't afford them. I wouldn't ask for handouts/donations even if I did have children like these two a-holes.

    They think they're blessed? They're effing sick. The oldest children get screwed the most because they end up doing most of the parenting while mom & pop Duggar plan for more children. Stop boning and take care of the kids you already have. It's disgusting.

  32. Juliana
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    AndyIII, I love Idiocracy. The opening scene with the redneck family tree always reminds me of this family. :D

  33. uberuber
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    I am so very disgusted with these freaking religious freaknuts. The answer to the question, "but how do they manage to pay for that enormous litter, when mommy-the-human-clown-car doesn't work (because she's too busy being the human breeding machine)?" Well kids, it's simple: Welfare and making your house into a CHURCH, thereby ensuring lots and lots of tax exemptions! Whee! Isn't xtianity super neat?! Yayz! I don't know what I was thinking, stopping at two kids...oh, right, I'm not a farking wingnut, attention whore, religious freak-and I have an I.Q. of ABOVE the double digits. Those children are abuse victims, all of them. There is NO way in hell the adults could possibly keep track of them all-so all of the older ones are used as work horses. Nice. I hope her cave-like vagina prolapses soon. Please, baby Jeebus, please.

  34. BSfromtheLEFTARDS
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Ahhhh selfishness from the "Hipster" generation

    They work to have this many children. They plan around Michelle’s fertility. They could not financially support these children without the television shows and charitable donations. The parents don’t manage the children, they manage a schedule that requires the older children to care for the younger children.

    Guess what asshole, the Druggers were taking care of their own long before the tv show came along, unlike you pampered little crybabies they DON'T take Gov Handouts

    as for the rest of the "Enlightened" planet, FU, when you morons go to China and bellyache about the real population problem, I'll care.

    jealousy is such a petty stupid thing, but Generation Selfish is right on time

  35. donna
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    If I was a girl in that family, I would sue for my independence. Seriously. They rely on the slave labor of their daughters.

    Women are worth more than that. Breeding and drudgery are not the end goals of being female.

  36. LisaL
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    BSfromtheLEFTARDS- Ok, now go back to your Dugger household and tell mommy & daddy to stop having more kids.

    Donna- right on

  37. D'alva
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    "US of EFFING A" youre such a damn hick. yee haw.

  38. kata
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Shame on you people!!! What is wrong with you?? Who are you to judge other human beings. These people love their children and provide for them. I am shocked by what immoral and shallow people you all are. I am not a religious "freaknut" but I can see why people become conservative right. It's because of people like all of you.

  39. Mr. Binky
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    39th!!!!!!1111lol

  40. Larfin Jackarse
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    @Mr Binky 39. No not 39th...18th. Tho I sure it will soon be 39th.

  41. violet
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Kata honey, you seem lost. The Defenders of Wack-Ass Holy Roller Breeder forum is down the hall.

  42. mikos
    Dec 19th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    @kata: I am guessing that you've got your definition of "morality" from some outdated book, didn't you?

  43. Viva
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 12:08 am

    Violet,

    We're not lost. There *are* people who, y'know, have a different opinion than yours. Shocking!

    Not everyone on Neatorama is a narcissistic atheist with poor self image. Although I admit that they are highly overrepresented, especially in the comments section.

    I am willing to bet that no one in this commentary thread, except for me, has met the Duggars and their kids in person. Until you do, STFU and go back to your 1.4 children and demographic death spiral.

  44. Viva
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Hey mikos, where'd you get *your* definition of reality? Let me guess: you're enlightened enough to have figured it out all on your own, eh?

    Newton stood on the shoulders of giants... atheists stand on the shoulders of midgets.

  45. Joe
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    I fail to see why these people have a spot on The Learning Channel. What does anyone stand to learn from these people? How to have a ridiculous number of children? We're all capable of that. These people will never be able to give their children an opportunity to be more than their parents were. These kids are formed and pressed carbon-copies. I pity them. So much human potential wasted.

  46. Shannon
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Most of you people are so opinionated and quick to judge. So they have a bunch of kids and the older ones help take care of the younger ones. So what. It's their family, that's the way they want it and last time I checked we live in America where people can have as many kids as they want and raise them with whatever morals they choose. They are not asking you to raise your family like that and it's not your business to place judgement on them. So what if they make money from publicity and their show. Good for them. You probably watch the show and contribute to the money they make and still complain. People need to lighten up on the Duggars and stop all of these awful finger-pointing things they are saying. Unless you and your family are perfect, keep your shallow comments to yourself.

  47. Arden
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 1:45 am

    Ugh. Its repulsive how they view their wives and daughters as human breeding machines for some demographic holy war. NOT what the world needs right now.

    Whatever happened to adopting kids?

  48. Arden
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 1:51 am

    Shannon, please do some research on these people before telling us how quick we are to judge. We have good reason for being appalled by them. This is what they believe in:
    "the staunchest promoters of the Quiverfull conviction and the patriarchy lifestyle, both of which hold that Christian couples should have as many children as God gives them, forgoing any form of family planning, as both a demonstration of their obedience and trust in God and as a militant method of demographic battle with nonbelievers."
    Yes, Quiverfull, the movement that believes women's bodies aren't their own, but in fact sacrificial wombs used to build God's army.

    Many of them also hold to extremely sexist ideas, and are against women being able to vote or hold office.

  49. Shannon
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 2:24 am

    Arden,
    I need not do research. Your quote states just another persons negative opinion, no different than the millions out there. These people are not asking you to follow their religion. They are living their lives the way they want and they have a right to. Just like you have the right to post your opinion on here. Act like you live in America and let people have the freedom to do what they want. Where's the rule that says they have to live in a way that pleases you? And as far as the "sexist ideas", let Michelle complain about that....which I haven't heard her do yet. Otherwise, why do you care? If you are so "appalled" by them then don't watch the show. Unless someone is forcing you to do so.
    I'm still waiting to see something on here against the Duggars that makes sense......blah, blah, blah......

  50. seb
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 3:44 am

    If you look at the age of the kids they all look the same. Thus meaning a child each year?

  51. violet
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 3:50 am

    @Viva: I can't get back to my 1.4 children and this exciting-sounding death spiral you speak of right now because I'm already late for my Narcissistic Atheists with Poor Self Image support group. I almost feel guilty about this, but then I remember I'm a narcissist and my needs come first. Priorities!

  52. Dan Smith
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 4:57 am

    they should be put in jail

    they are morons

  53. Xeronimo
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 6:09 am

    I guess making babies (and looking after them) is their favorite hobby?

  54. Evilbeagle
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 6:20 am

    Personally, I don't care if a person chooses to have 1 child or 20. As long as they can support their family without taxpayer money, it makes no difference to me.

    However, as a tokophobic with no interest in getting over it, I find these people rather baffling. Why would anyone want to put their body through that 18 times?

  55. SenorMysterioso
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 9:22 am

    Like I said earlier, I dont relate to the Duggars but what I really dont understand is all the hate directed toward them here. Why so hateful? They are not hurting anyone or burdening the public and they have a happy loving family. I dont see the problem.

  56. Evilbeagle
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 9:52 am

    I agree, SenorMysterioso. It's not as though they are the entire reason for overpopulation, and quite frankly, it's her uterus to do with as she wishes.

  57. Briannana
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    Hmmm... with all the ad homonym attacks going on here, it seems like the perfect time to go into a "reductio ad hitlerum"....

    Seriously though, growing up, I knew a family of severely religious folks that stopped at 14 kids. It wasn't weird because they had fourteen children. It was freaking crazy because they had 14 socially-maladaptive, non-functional, thoughtless, zombie-drones for children, who were completely cut off from society due to their parent's belief in literalistic end-time religion. These kids were so screwed up that they thought it was normal for their parents to bruise their legs with a leather strap if they didn't answer within 10 seconds of their parents calling their name. They also believed that if someone called the police for this type of abuse, that the person would burn in hell because they were denying the "Will of God by interfering with the life situation that God gave them" -straight out of eldest daughters mouth as she told me I would burn in hell for not respecting her parents, one of "God's Laws".

  58. dogrun81
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 10:30 am

    I never knew Neatorama readers were such hateful, intolerant, self-righteous, judgmental people.

  59. Why so scared?
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Of all the women I know who have had their fair share of bad relationships, I know plenty who'd give anything to be in a relationship like this: two people who love each other so completely and unconditionally that their love produces babies. What a concept.

    That man lives for his wife; his whole life is her and their family. He puts them fist. And that's what most women want. She loves him totally and completely, too. This is a good thing.

    These kids know they are loved simply for being; they were loved into existence. The parents never separate lovemaking from the obvious fruit of that love. The kids sure are doing better than some friends I know; their mothers had far less kids but did much more damage, mostly due to the prioritizing of self over children. The devastation can be found on countless shrink couches. It can mostly be traced back to believing that one is not loved, not because of what you do, but for who you are: your very existence.

    As for their kids not going to college, it's the lie of the century to think that everyone must go into 6 figure debt and go to college to, what? Come out with a $50k job? So they don't go to college and get a $30k job; who's smarter? College has been dumbed down to the 13th grade; it's not for everyone and for real scholars, well, now they must go on to grad, law or med school to make any real money.

    I love that a family like this will completely change the demographic of their entire neighborhood in just a few generations. While the rest contracept yourselves out of existence. These people are no threat to me whatsoever; completely self-sufficient, hard working, and loving. Not my religion, not my call to have so many children but it sure doesn't threaten me.

  60. ted
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    I'm not mad at them, but what they are doing is objectionable. They should have become Mormons, so that Mom could have a rest every couple of years, and Dad's seed could spread even further.

  61. Greggggg
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    The thing that's obscene about this is that there are tons of children in orphanages who need families, yet these two people think that having biological baby #18 is more important.

  62. Evilbeagle
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Greggggg, their own child is more important to them than adopting, and that is their business. No one is obligated to adopt or give birth. I've stated that I have no desire to ever give birth. I find the whole concept creepy, even though I like kids. That doesn't mean I have to adopt or that I should feel some moral obligation to do so just because I can or because I have chosen not to have any of my own. It's kind of the same idea. I kind of see the point you are making and I am not picking on you because you've been nicer than most people here, but really, in the end, it's no one's business but their own.

    Honestly, I find it all very amusing because it does my head in to think that anyone would want to do this even once, and they're already talking about having another one. But it's certainly not my place, or anyone's to judge. At least they take care of the kids and aren't on welfare.

  63. Tempscire
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Why so scared?-- One thing: it's not love that produces children, it's sex. If those two hated each other, but still regularly put his penis into her vagina, they'd be popping kids out.
    --

    Anyhoo, this family disturbs me. The whole premise for them having this many kids is for part of the Quiverful movement, which is creepy enough in its own right. The kids all are home-schooled, and thankfully they are at least somewhat self-sufficient financially, but that just makes them seem even more insular and cult-like. I hadn't been to their site before, and it creeps me out how none of the boys are shown doing housework or childcare to help out. Never mind that they all have matching J names like Jim Bob-daddy, but no M names to match Mommy (or, you know, give them all unique names that don't match anyone).

    Oh, and I just love the thinly-veiled racism in some of their supporters, e.g. anytime any mentions "demographics." They'll change the demographics of their area all by themselves! They'll keep white folk being produced, 'cos we're a'skeered of the darkies out-breeding us! Good job, folks. Sterling logic.

  64. renderanything
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    I doubt they'd change a show's name like that. Just the same as 20th Century Fox post millennium.
    Oh, and ted, you've got a few facts mixed up in your post.

  65. ted
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    Now, now, renderanything, if I've mixed anything up, you should correct me with specifics.

    Such as "Not all Mormons are polygamists" or "even if they were polygamists, Mom wouldn't necessarily get a rest every couple of years" or maybe "it's not actually seed that Dad is spreading - it's sperm".

  66. SenorMysterioso
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Gregg, by that logic, it would be obscene even if they had only one child as it hypothetically prevents the adoption of a child in an orphanage.

  67. violet
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    @ Tempscire: Good points all. The Quiverful thing is really disturbing. It's easy (in an intellectually lazy way) to defend their incessant breeding with a "their family; their prerogative" argument, but the fundamental mission behind the behavior is very much informed by an extremely socially regressive model.

    As with the expectation of unquestioning praise and validation for those who choose to join the military (based on a manufactured notion of blind patriotism as the height of honor), so there is this idea that anything anybody wants to do, if born of their religion, must also be viewed uncritically.

    We all judge, all the time. We all have the faculty of unique discernment. And mine tells me that growing a profoundly insulated colony of submissive females and king-of-the-castle males based on a series of folktale missives is flat creepy.

    And if someone wants to argue that my having 1.4 children and eschewing religion in favor of a personal preference for a searching, insecure reality over a fabricated peace is somehow inferior to the above scenario, we can have that discussion.

  68. Scary
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    It's absolutely disheartening to read the hate on this board. These are upstanding loving people adding life to the world. And they are happy. Some of the child-hating narcissists writing here need serious help.

  69. Rocky Rook
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    WOW. There are some really HOT opinions on this post. With regard to the over-population opinions ... I've not done a whole lot of research on this, but I have read dozens of recent articles on the birth-rate DECLINE in Russia, Europe and the US. Perhaps the over-population "problem" is with the 3rd world countries ... and China.

  70. ted
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    The "hatred" stems from the fact that they've been raised to find the objectification of women objectionable. It's not really how many kids she has, just the fact that she's being treated, and treating herself, as no more than a baby machine, based on an obscure patriarchal interpretation of a religion that many of them reject.

    They react with anger because they are horrified that this family clings to this interpretation despite society's modern notions of progress. They don't hate children. They hate the idea of irresponsibly churning out and raising children with flawed ideals.

  71. liphttam1
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Good for them not haveing an individual childhood.

  72. Frau
    Dec 20th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Well...at least they did not name the child something like Adoplh Hitler.

  73. Neatoramawontsendmeapassword
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 12:06 am

    The disgusting Duggars gone done it again!

    Unless their house runs on wind turbines... and they grow, spin, and weave their own cloth... and they live in an unheated hut... and they grow all their own food in their backyard... and they don't own one single car... and they wash all those diapers with water manually pulled from their own well... and they don't accept any charity... I don't want to hear about how they're "self-sufficient". This family has a detrimental impact on the rest of the world, whether they want to admit it or not.

    Go through menopause already!

  74. Evilbeagle
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 5:34 am

    You know, it's not as thought Momma Duggar is a victim. They have a messed up religion that encourages women to be breeding animals, and yeah, that's not something I am in line with, but she is a grown up that can question her beliefs if she chooses to do so. I don't care what they do as long as they aren't running around acting like the Phelps family, or being abused. I know I don't appreciate when people get in my face about my lack of religion, so if she wants to believe that she is meant to submit to her man and have a litter, then who really cares?

  75. Evilbeagle
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 5:41 am

    Just to add... I was responding to violet on that post. I'm not saying that I'm above judging them or anyone else, because you are right. We all judge. But ultimately, if they are fine with that line of thinking and don't want to look at women as equals, that is no one else's problem until something illegal occurs.

  76. ted
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 8:28 am

    That is true, Evilbeagle. It's her choice to live that way. What I find weird is the Quiverful bit. A quiver is full of arrows - are these kids considered weapons in the war against heathens?

    I just wonder what'll happen when Ma Quiver starts pushing through defective babies. Will they stop, or will they continue?

  77. Evilbeagle
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 8:42 am

    Good question, ted. They will probably keep going and just take it all as God's will or something like that. But who knows?

    As for a war against heathens, all I can say about that is that they'd best prepare for a heck of a fight. :)

  78. Evilbeagle
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 8:49 am

    That is, of course, if they pick that sort of fight. ;)

  79. peach
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Whatever your opinion of may be it won't matter to them because they are 'protected' by their lord. And they are probably working on number 19 right now.

  80. ted
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Well, I hope he at least gave her the night off, peach.

  81. Roy
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    gross....blah...blah....clown car.....vagina.....I'm so original. breed.....
    Yes, they have a lot of kids. Sure it is weird. Why should we hate them though? The fact is that these two people seem a better parent to all of their children then many people are to a single child. The Duggars can support all of their children. It may take supplemental income from a television show, but they still do it. I think it is a little much to judge these people for just being different. The fact is that I would bet that these children grow to be much "better" then most of the children coming out of "normal" families.

  82. The Other Parker
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    If I don't want to post something mean-spirited or derogatory about this family, or express a desire to intervene in the way they live their lives, can I still post here? Or am I obligated to wear my bully hat? Sorry Duggars, if this thread is any indication, America ain't a free country any more. Here come your neighbors, and they all know better than you.

  83. Evilbeagle
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    I don't get the hate thing either, to be honest. Apparently, a lot of folks posting here are perfect.

  84. violet
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    @Evilbeagle around post #75: Yep. Still creepy though.

  85. Enjoy
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Congratulations to the Duggars on the birth of your daughter!

  86. Evilbeagle
    Dec 21st, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    @violet

    Creepy, yes, but she accepts it. That's her choice in a free country, and if that's fine with her, it's fine with me. No one is forcing you or I to live that way. I would have a problem with it if she were being forced into this, but there is no indication that she is, which is why I can't sit here and be overly critical of her. I would be very hypocritical if I were overly critical/hateful/judgemental in the manner that many here have been because many people do not approve of my being an atheist. However, they still respect that I choose to live my life free of religion. I'm only a biting dog when someone steps on my tail, y'know? Part of being in a free country is accepting that a lot of people are going to make different choices and have different beliefs. I don't feel that those beliefs (mine or anyone's) should be catered to for fear of offending another person, or shoved down anyone's throat, but I do strongly feel that we should live and let live. These people aren't hurting anyone. They are being true to themselves, and I honestly can't fault them for that.

    Mrs. Duggar doesn't need anyone to save or enlighten her.

  87. Xeal
    Dec 22nd, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Why criticize them so much? It is so amusing that people will describe these people as nutcases, religious freaks, etc... and yet fail to apply the same label to the terrorists, religious extremists, etc... that the world faces. Somehow the Duggars, BUsh (someone else inserted him into this thread), etc.. are all more evil than people who really DO enslave women?

    There seems to be this mistaken idea that because one is a sincere Christian who believes that children are a blessing, they are evil religious nutcases bent on manufacturing the army of God or whatever. That's crap.

    Personally, I don't like children -- I'll probably never have any. But if someone else does, more power to them, as long as they do it without taxpayer cash, I don't really care. And why should you? What does anyone have to fear from the so-called "Jesus Freaks?" Sure, some of them can be annoying. Sure their churches can dominate a landscape... but do these people threaten you? Are they committing some harm against you?

    No. Like the Duggars, most of them just go about their own lives, which, granted, are very different from our own, but in no way threatening. 18 kids? Before the days of birth control, that wasn't all that unusual anyway. Some of their kids may continue that way of life, others will probably rebel against it and go down some other path. It's a free country still. Leave it alone.

  88. Psych Major
    Dec 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 am

    I do NOT "hate" the Duggars. I am merely disgusted. I am also not thrilled with the idea that their behavior is being congratulated and celebrated as a noble and loving cause. It isn't.
    Pumping out children like litters of pups and then handing them off for your other "children" to raise is not noble, nor loving. It's not even remotely responsible.

    I suspect some sort of mental illness issues are going on in Michelle Duggar's head. Perhaps feeding off the relgious fanaticism that inspires such mental (and social) instability.
    I do not "hate" the Duggars, But I don't like what they are doing to their children - "Christian Army" children.

  89. mkultra
    Dec 22nd, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    I'm amused by the religious folks defending the Duggar's here, claiming that it is a beautiful thing, everybody is just being intolerant of religion, etc. I'd be curious to hear their reactions to this family if they were Muslim, or Satanists. I suspect they would be even more vehemently opposed than most of the people here.
    Get off your high horse, Churchy, you are no more tolerant or loving than the rest of us, you just package your hate a little differently.

  90. Evilbeagle
    Dec 22nd, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    For the record, as a person who has defended their right to use Mrs. Duggar's uterus how she sees fit, I wouldn't care what religion they were as I tend to think all religions are basically the same and don't follow any, in part because I hold them all on the same level.

  91. violet
    Dec 22nd, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    @Xeal: Nobody, pretty much ever, fails to call out terrorists etc., and I don't recall any significant thread comparing the two and describing the Duggars as More Evil. So I don't know what you're talking about there.

    Your second paragraph is also overly simplistic. They are not simply sincere Christians who believe children are a blessing. They really do feel it is their mission to generate as many followers as possible in order to further the goals of their religion, which in many cases are intolerant to others.

    "Do these people threaten you? Are they committing some harm against you?" Well, on a macro level, it is people like these, in large numbers, that violated the constitutional provision that no state shall enact a law abridging a citizen's rights. This was in California, when Mormon and other religious activists used their beliefs (and money) to take away the right of gay people to marry. So a valid argument can be made that these people DO do harm to some. Not crap.

    And as always, in a free country, everyone has a right to an opinion.

  92. Evilbeagle
    Dec 22nd, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    Like it or not, it's still legal to have as many children as you want, and for whatever reason you want. No one has to approve. If they are building a religious fanatic army, it's their right to do so. The good thing about the Prop 8 fiasco and others like it, is that people are appealing and fighting against the taking away of those rights. That's what America is all about.

  93. Psych Major
    Dec 23rd, 2008 at 3:44 am

    Well then EvilBeagle, according to your perspective, everyone has a right to be a bigot. Or a Racist. Everyone has a right to disciplin their children with leather belts and paddle boards. Everyone has a right to build compounds and become a cult. Everyone has a right to dig a hole in their front yard and use it for a used motor oil dumpsite. Everyone has the right to kill neighbors' dogs or cats who stray onto their property.
    There are a lot of things there are no "sprecific laws" prohibiting, but that doesn't mean to do these things is wise or not harmful to others....

    Having 18 kids is not wise, commendable, noble, nor something to be "proud" of. It is irresponsible, unnecessary, selfish and degrading to us all.

  94. Evilbeagle
    Dec 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 am

    Actually, Psych Major, there are laws specifically against animal abuse, even if that animal is on your property, though that varies from state to state. Child abuse is also illegal. Disposing of motor oil as you suggested is also illegal, so no, I am not saying that anyone has the right to do illegal things. That argument makes very little sense because that is not my perspective at all, and your understanding of it is obviously skewed.

    Unfortunately, people do have a right to be bigoted and racist so long as they stay within the law. And again, people do have a right to build cults and compounds so long as they are within the law.

    There is no law against stopping this woman from breeding, and if you want that, then you might prefer somewhere like China, and their laws are nothing to be proud of either.

    Personally, I don't feel that someone else having 18 kids degrades me. I could care less what they choose. I'm not the one having them or raising them. For them, it is wise, commendable and noble, even if we don't all necessarily agree. It is only irresponsible if they cannot support their children on their own. As for unecessary, again, that is your opinion against their own.

    Point is, just because you don't approve, doesn't mean that it shouldn't happen, or that it's automatically wrong. According to your perspective, only your opinion/belief is acceptable.

  95. Evilbeagle
    Dec 23rd, 2008 at 4:51 am

    Just to add, part of being American is having the right to live your life as you wish within legal means. If it is reasonable to change a law that is restrictive of those rights, you work toward that change (such as the gay marriage issue, and I do support gay marriage). But we must keep in mind that in having the right to live as we choose, we must allow others to live as they choose, even if it is not the choice we would personally make.

  96. ohgod..
    Dec 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    well what the hell, you guys are talking about it like it's freaking polygamy. sure it's not at all common to have 18 kids now-a-days, but my god they can do whatever they want to do. it's not "bad" or "degrading" it's a choice they make. and would i like to be one of their children? well, no. i don't live like that at all, but they DO.. but they seem like friendly people and all you guys are doing is sitting on your computers crabbing about them and being unfriendly trolls. i mean it is a little weird but someone in my class made the point that the world's population is high enough. ha! there are 300,000+ births/DAY. i'm sure 18 isn't going to hurt it that bad..

    pretty soon i'm going to have to make a "leave the duggars alone" video and put it up on youtube.

  97. ohgod..
    Dec 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    does anyone know of the religion they are?

  98. Malisha
    Dec 27th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Fuck the Duggars!

  99. Evilbeagle
    Dec 27th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    I think they do enough of that on their own, Malisha.

  100. KATHY
    Dec 28th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    God bless them. Jim Bob has a GOOD PAYING JOB, so they have the right to have more babies. I can surely point to 2 ethnic groups that have a high birth,and WELFARE rate, that ABUSE their children,or dump them in a dumpster.Those groups should be sterialized(they also don't have the money to have ANY). This family is beautiful. Their needs to be more births like this in California to overun the ugly ones,and have DECENT MORAL people take over. Again God bless you guys. Nothing wrong with being decent moral God loving,and God respecting people..

  101. violet
    Dec 29th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    No Kathy, there's nothing wrong with being decent and moral. You should try it, unless the effort to do so would conflict in an unexpected way with your desire to effectively exterminate certain ethnic groups, possibly resulting in a massive mess as the living contradiction and horror show that is your brain explodes all over the place. On second thought, give it a go.

  102. Evilbeagle
    Dec 29th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Psst, violet, don't feed the troll *points to KATHY* :P

  103. violet
    Dec 29th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    I know but Daaaad...!! She said Hitler wuz koooool... sniff.

  104. Evilbeagle
    Dec 30th, 2008 at 7:26 am

    LOL!!!!! Yes, violet, but she only said it for attention, and that's Mawwwwwm to you. ;)

  105. Janine
    Dec 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    The solution is don't watch the program. By watching the program, you are supporting the behavior. I found the automatonic behavior of this family disgusting within the first 15 minutes of the only time I ever watched. I turn off the commercials for them too.

  106. Joji
    Dec 30th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    I don't think it's worth arguing over. Some people just don't understand that some things aren't even any of their business. So what if people say that Jim-Bob and Michelle need to stop having kids? Are they going to listen? I doubt it.

    This whole thing isn't worth arguing over.
    The birth of a child (even the 18th) is still a very joyous moment and a miracle.

    Happy birthday Jordyn-Grace! Congratulations Duggar family!

    I do watch the television shows. One episode, when they were announcing Michelle's 18th pregnancy, she and Jim-Bob said that the children are always thrilled and can't wait to choose the new baby's buddy etc. Maybe the children enjoy nurturing their siblings?

  107. BEVVY
    Dec 31st, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Congratulations to the Duggars on the arrival, There seems to be a lot of negativity summited. In my opinion The Duggars are a loving family and i only wish mine was so loving, There are alot of broken familys out there and if it works for this family why knock it.

  108. ilovetheduggars
    Jan 5th, 2009 at 3:57 am

    I only wish that I could ever be as happy as the duggars. They seem to have a great marriage that will last forever. May God bless them and their beautiful family!

  109. booo7099
    Jan 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    These people make me sick, and the thing that makes me sick is that they sequester their kids and keep them captive by home schooling so they have a limited view of the outside world. Also I see some people are saying they fell in love and are having children and that's natural...its not natural to have kids one right after another unless they are sustained by artificial means (formula). Nature doesn't intend for humans to reproduce like this and in the natural state a woman breastfeeds...this breastfeeding inhibits ovulation and prohibits the woman from becoming a baby factory. This family is a sick, twisted aberration against nature. Humans were not intended to have families like this and I think they keep their kids captive and sequester them from outside influences in order to remain in control of them. Hopefully one of them escapes the compound and is able to inform the others about the outside world. God help those children.

  110. Mags
    Jan 15th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    These poor children!!
    Their parents are so cruel! Keeping them locked away to do chores and care for little children! And It disgusts me that they have to "Sign" to speak to a parent in private. There teenage girls aren't even aloud to act like teens! They can't go shopping, or make friends, or use the internet, they can't even express their feelings! No, they all have to act like happy little robots all the fucking time!! AND, after one baby pops out the "Dugger 5000", the other 9 month old is just forgotten, and an older kid must care for and teach it!! Plus, if they want that many kids, then they should at least give some of the thousands of starving children a home and some love! The Dugger parents are nothing but selfish bitches, who get money off their kids by using TV.
    This family is just gross.

  111. Alyssa
    Jan 20th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Listen, people. You need to stop insulting Quiverfull people. Not everyone is the same. Like a lot of people say, "You can't just say every Muslim wants to bomb buildings with planes.". I am Quiverfull myself and I don't believe that women shouldn't be able to vote or be in office. That's stupid. I just want to let God decide how many children I'll have. It has nothing to do with making as many soldiers as I can for God's army.

  112. Tongapunch
    Jan 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am

    You people are idiots!!! The Duggars can have and raise as many kids as they want. We live in the United States and they have the freedom to do as they please. They are raising good kids. With the thoughts all of the idiots on here are showing to the world I can only imagine how horrible you are as parents. I feel sorry for your kids as well as anyone that has to be in contact with you. Go crawl back in the slime you came from.

  113. jae
    Jan 27th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Wow! what I am scared of more is the contempt and hatred towards those who want children. Why is there so much anger at those who choose to have children. The nastiness coming out of persons who have posted have little or no tolerance of other persons' decisions.
    No one really lives in their household but they appear to have a deep joy. By the way, they are debt-free and own their own home. They are not relying on welfare and they have a stable home. Each child is educated and are encouraged to pray. How many of us can say that we own are own home and have a stable home??? Could it be that we are envious of another's happiness? Think about it.

  114. Cathy
    Jan 28th, 2009 at 2:24 am

    Soon their grandchildren will be older than their children.

    That is just creepy!

  115. Maryann
    Feb 1st, 2009 at 4:12 am

    I wonder if any of the kids will want to attend college or branch out and get out of the family compound. It looks like such a limiting lifestyle.

  116. dugger hater
    Feb 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 am

    I don't know what it is but I just hate these people. They are so god damn jaded of the real life. They honestly belive that Adam and Eve lived with the dinosaurs...GET REAL! Maybe instead of home schooling, they should get a real education. Every one of those kids will grow up to be a bunch of idiots just like their parents.

    I love how Josh Duggar waited until his wedding to have his first kiss. It's 2009!! He is way too young to get married and he should have kissed a girl at least 2 years ago. I am just so sick of these overpopulating back woods hick Jesus freaks.

  117. lafoose
    Feb 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am

    No $%^&. These people have no clue. Their children have no idea of the 'real world'. I'm not against anyone doing their own thing, but this family is a CULT all it's own. Look at the wedding photos of the oldest kid and his new wife; it says it all - She has the exact same Deer-In-The-Headlights look as that idiot Michelle Duggar. God bless them? God help them.

  118. jrfuss
    Feb 11th, 2009 at 2:31 am

    I can't say I really agree with what they are doing either. I want to have a child myself, but my husband and I will wait until I finish nursing school. I don't really approve of the way that she has turned herself into a baby factory. I also don't think it's right that the younger children get foisted off onto the older girls when the newest baby is born. None of those kids have a clue about the real world. I agree with a lot of the posters on here regarding the "slave labor" of the girl kids. It's just not right that the girls are doing all the work while the boys are screwing around and playing games. And finally, just because you have the ability to keep squirting out babies doesn't mean you should keep doing it. I would find it very admirable of her if she announced that they were going to stop having children. No one seems to mention that there's still the possibility of dying during childbirth. Even in our advanced medical technology, bad things can still happen. She really needs to consider that; who's going to take care of all those children if she dies? Will JimBob really be able to find a woman who wants to take over the raising of that many children, and who will have the best interests of the kids in her heart? Or will she be a gold-digger who is only interested in the fame it will bring her, to be on reality tv shows?

  119. mom5
    Feb 19th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    This is one sick situation. I really feel bad for all those children. What kind of life experience will they have? I think the mother or brood sow(sorry pigs) has an addiction to being pregnant. She must have to wear depends to keep her bodily functions contained.

    The dad uses 2 cans of hairspray a week. Yes I watched part of a recent show. Excuse me I am feeling sick.

  120. entropy
    Feb 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    "God bless them. Jim Bob has a GOOD PAYING JOB, so they have the right to have more babies."

    What? What the hell is wrong with you, and all the rest of you geniuses that think it's a "right" to squeeze out 17+ kids? Is it a "right" to dump toxic waste into a municipal water supply? In a grossly overpopulated world with limited resources no one has a "right" to behave irresponsibly with regard to reproduction. It isn't the Duggars "right" to intentionally produce 17+ hungry mouths, regardless of whether or not Jim Bob has a GOOD PAYING JOB. There is now that much less room on this planet for sane people to avoid the Duggars and their wacked-out, right-wing fundamentalist offspring. If you want to pop out kids like there's no tomorrow, go find yourself a planet with unlimited resources. This one ain't it.

  121. MsM
    Feb 21st, 2009 at 2:16 am

    I don't like saying mean things about people, but gosh,the Duggars need to quit breeding; 2 or 3 kids are enough for any couple. I do believe michelle is addicted to being pregnant (the progesterone spike during pregnancy can make you feel high) plus she's sheltered just like the rest of them. I think jim bob monkey face knows that. He likes being head of his household..as his god ordained it. But they don't care about over population, because they believe this world is not their home; heaven is. But, thankfully, having this many children is not that common now, except when women are brainwashed by religion,mentally ill or have no control over their lives.
    Have y'all noticed how arrogant the males are in this family? They have it made, I guess.

  122. m
    Feb 24th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Response to KATHY
    December 28th, 2008 at 4:39 pm post:

    Although you did not state which ethics groups you could point to, I'm certain we all know the two the groups YOU were referring to. And if I'm not mistaking I take the comment to be directed at both the African American and Latin groups. Hmmm, irony is something. And I say this because I just finished watching not one, not two, but three MSNBC 20/20 programs (showing at least 4 different cases per program;total of 12) where a parent has brutally murdered their own child/ren to retaliate against a former girlfriend/spouse or a child/ren who have murdered their parent/s because he/she couldn't date a particular boy/girl or go to a party. And I just realized after reading your direct/indirect racist/prejudice response that not one of those crimes were committed by an African American or Latin American, but crimes that were committed by one of the Caucasian persuasion. Not because they were delusional, hallicinogenic, or insane...but because he/she were just made of pure evil. TALK ABOUT ABUSE. Sweetheart don't point the finger at one or two ethic groups....because the finger can be pointed in EVERY direction no matter what the race, creed, color, ethicity is....by the way honey...at least 4 out of the 12 cases the families were White low income families living on welfare & housing --compliments of OUR government! Be careful of who YOU turn nose up at it just may come back to bite you in the derriere!!!

    In closing I would like to say I am in no way prejudice especially since my father IS WHITE AND MY MOTHER IS AFRICAN AMERICAN!! And yes after 36 years they are still happily married. Thank you very much.

  123. O.Spengler
    Feb 25th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    "You people are idiots!!! The Duggars can have and raise as many kids as they want. We live in the United States and they have the freedom to do as they please. They are raising good kids. With the thoughts all of the idiots on here are showing to the world I can only imagine how horrible you are as parents. I feel sorry for your kids as well as anyone that has to be in contact with you. Go crawl back in the slime you came from."

    Spoken like a true Christian, Tongapunch. And Alyssa, you're creepy...and quite possibly a threat to Western civilization.

  124. selfish hipster
    Feb 25th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Response to BSfromtheLEFTARDS: "as for the rest of the “Enlightened” planet, FU, when you morons go to China and bellyache about the real population problem, I’ll care."

    Hey, Einstein, the idea is to keep from becoming the next China. Ask one of your pets to lend you some IQ points so you can figure it out.

  125. sanskrit
    Mar 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 am

    My problem with the Duggars is the lack of choice the kids have, especially the girls. You can't choose life styles or religions when you are kept completely isolated from anything but the extreme one you are living. Michelle Duggar may actually enjoy her lifestyle but she was raised normally and chose it. Her children are not given that opportunity. On a superficial note, what is with that hairstyle. Talk about a mullet gone psycho!

  126. Mitsy
    Apr 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    I've been writing & posting about the Duggar's for several years now. I am a huge advocate for birth control & responsibility (neither of which the Duggar's deem to be important). I think they are irresponsible & selfish for spewing out baby after baby for those older kids to raise. Now that Michelle is going to be a grandma, she really should hang up her baby factory. These people breed for attention and to keep their TV show going. How do you think they finished their house and furnished it? It was on Discovery Channel's money. They are an embarrassment to the state of Arkansas and make anyone who is a Christian look like an idiot for shelving their brains in the name of religion.

  127. Chrissy
    Apr 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    God Bless everyone on this site.

  128. Alicia
    Apr 26th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    What I find interesting..is that the Duggers seem to have no sympathy for other children besides their own. If they really wanted to do something good for humanity, why not adopt? There are like 3482242343 (exaggeration) Chinese children that would love a home.(even if it was like the Duggers) Shame on them for just dumping more children into the population before considering others that are already here and in need of help.

    If I EVER have children, I will adopt. Asian babies are cuter/smarter anyway :)

  129. Chelsie
    May 17th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Wow... I am soooo Happy to see there are people out there that are thinking the same things i am! I also think that if they wanted so many children, they should have adopted, just think that would have been 18 homeless children,Home.. I know someone who loves these people, they live off the state and cant afford to live in a proper house. between the two parents there are 8 kids (6 hers 2 between them) and there is another on the way. they live in a trailer, and cant afford to live. but they think its fine to keep having kids and they say "if the duggers can do it we can" blah! PEOPLE NEED TO GET A GRIP ON REALITY!

  130. Tiger
    May 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    I love the racists on here..."increasing the demographics" in the area! LOL..good one. IN other words, let the whites outbreed the coloreds, huh? And the same racists then bash the normal posters who find the Duggars to be sick and socially maladjusted.

  131. sdc
    May 30th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    All of you should read Micheal and Debi Pearls' book - To Train up a Child. They are the gurus of discipline in the QuiverFull Movement and the Duggars are the most famous QuiverFulls among us. They start to beat their babies shortly after birth to excert parental control so they can all grow up to be good soilders for God. It instructs women to be submissive to their husbands to secure their salvation in eternity. Their daughters are raised to become baby making machines who excel in housework and domestic duties. Their sons are taught they are better than their sisters because they are male and therefore closer to God. They instruct the moms to be quiet and pray if they find their husbands sexually abusing their kids. We are concerned with waterboarding terrorist and they do it to their children to break their spirit. They even instruct them to discipline privately so nosey relatives and neighbors won't call the police. I AM NOT KIDDING!!! Read this book and then tell me what you think of the Duggars.

  132. HollyH in Wyoming
    Sep 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Why is everyone so nasty and judgemental regarding this family? Most of what you people are saying is really none of your business. I understand the arguments for over population, limited resources and all that, but geewhiz, this one family isn't the cause or the last straw of it all. And what older sister or brother doesn't help with their younger siblings? That's what you call family. All the speculation regarding these peoples' lifestyle and how they've raised their children is just that, speculation. I know what's shown on tv but, how do you know the daughters won't be allowed to choose their own lifestyles? These people love their children, I'm sure if one of them wants to become say, a doctor or nurse, they will be allowed to go to college to do so. I Can't understand all the vitriole. It's not like they're asking for handouts or receiving state assistance. I'm only 19 and just asking but I just think it's wrong to be so mean, judgemental and unChristian about the Duggars. I know you'll all probably say mean things about this comment so have at it.

  133. Dee
    Oct 12th, 2009 at 8:56 am

    The network should take this family off the air. The fact that they put them on TV endorses and welcomes them to continue breeding like animals. Mindless boring idiots.

  134. Leah
    Oct 14th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Its so nice to see that I'm not the only one that gets sick when the friggin Duggars come on tv once again and are all like...We're pregnant again y'all....Ugh...Enough already...Hey havent you ever heard of birth control or does God just keep giving you unnessary children...Gets on my God dame nerves...Oh yeah cant kiss until marriage right...Bull shit...like the Duggar parents waiting to mate before marriage...yeah....not likely.

    Not that I'm say having children is bad a thing...But come on people....18 kids in counting...We thought Jon and Kate plus 8 was bad but the Duggars got them beat...Hope Michelle and Billy Bob or whatever his name is, believes in Divorce cause thats whats gonna happen..Then what they Hell they gonna do with 18 kids...Whatever...Just take you God loving family off the air cause America Dont want to see that Shit

  135. BlahBlah
    Oct 27th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    I hate the Duggars, how disgusting. I hope one of the girls gets pregnant before graduating high school.. hahahahahaha.
    I know that if I was one of their daughters I would have already killed myself!

  136. College Grad
    Oct 29th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Jim Bob Nut Job is a total tyrant,not to mention a real JACKASS!With him,and the rest of the "Quiverfool" movement,or whatever it is called,that sect is nothing more than repression in the name of God.
    With Jim Bob Jackass,or whatever name this misguided fool goes by,this is nothing more than turning back the clock 120-130 years,when women did not even have the right to vote(that came in 1920).This "Little House On The Prarie" lifestyle and mentality is (pardon the cornball cliche'),"For the Birds".At least Laura Ingalls Wilder had lived to see women get the right to vote.And this "Tyranical Jackass",wants to undo the progress that women have made in the last century.
    A true Christian does not repress his kids.A true Christian does not repress their identity or individuality;nor does he deprive them access to the outside world;and especially the right to a college education,which is a means to nurture their "God Given" aptitudes and talents.
    In time,one,two,or even three of those kid will wise up and break away from the "Prison" that "Jim Bob Jackass" created.And then,we'll see the truth of "Puritanical Cults",and maybe put a stop to the "Quiverfool Movement".

  137. Ella
    Nov 13th, 2009 at 5:54 am

    This is the most HYPOCRITICAL family around! They say they're too holy, godly, and righteous to watch television and yet they have they own TV show! So, all of us who own cable and watch their shows are not as holy as they are and we're all going to hell. They think birth control is from the devil... so they expect all of us to have 58 kids and all of us get our own reality show to pay for them? They think girls wearing pants is a SIN? The mom thinks dancing is a SIN. They makeup their own RULES and REGULATIONS to make their selves feel holy and better than everyone else when God NEVER even told them to do those things. I dislike this family with a passion. They need to be stopped. Stop watching their show!

  138. Ella
    Nov 13th, 2009 at 6:33 am

    Why don't they do something TRULY GODLY and ADOPT instead of running around shooting out more kids? They're SO STUPID!

  139. fuckfuckfuck
    Nov 15th, 2009 at 1:53 am

    Ya, I guess I don't get the part where they won't dance, watch tv (much), get on the computer, public school their children, listen to NORMAL music..but they parade their huge ass family around like it is a freak show..wow!they are robbing their children of normal childhood lives, its really actually sad. I would be pissed if i was one of those kids. they are simply brainwashing their poor children. Their kids will grow up to be like them and make 1 billion fucking kids that are not needed. Soon, everyone on the planet is going to be all cousins because of them..haha it seems like they want to take over the world or something....Fuck 'em.

  140. fuckfuckfuck
    Nov 15th, 2009 at 1:53 am

    Ya, I guess I don't get the part where they won't dance, watch tv (much), get on the computer, public school their children, listen to NORMAL music..but they parade their huge ass family around like it is a freak show..wow!they are robbing their children of normal childhood lives, its really actually sad. I would be pissed if i was one of those kids. they are simply brainwashing their poor children. Their kids will grow up to be like them and make 1 billion fucking kids that are not needed. Soon, everyone on the planet is going to be all cousins because of them..haha it seems like they want to take over the world or something....Fuck 'em!!!

  141. Catherine
    Nov 28th, 2009 at 6:28 am

    Why is there so much fear posted here? Why all the miserable, pessimistic , ill-informed biases against the Duggars?
    How many of you are raising well-mannered, sweet, motivated, happy children? How many of you live with integrity and take responsibility for your actions and words? How many of you know how to treat others in a respectful and kind manner? How many here are truly happy yourselves ? How many of you LOVE spending time with your family: parents, siblings, grandparents, uncles and aunts, cousins...etc...? How many of you get together a few times a day to pray and show appreciation to God? How many of you even believe in God? How many of you have actually watched a few full episodes of the Duggars?
    Stop all the hate.....hate is initiated by ignorance.

  142. Jessi
    Dec 15th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Ugh. I detest the Duggars. There HAS to be some mental disorders floating around to think it's "wonderful" that they are having more children while their own kids are having kids!! Not to mention it's disgusting to think that two self-righteous, ignorant people like Jim bob and Michelle Duggar can have 19 brainwashed little robots but so many decent, educated people can't even have 1 child >.<

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