Quote: Benjamin Franklin on Liberty

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

- Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father of the United States (1706-1790)


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I don't check out anything bad from the library. I don't say anything that anybody couldn't hear. I don't get searched and no one would ever want to search me. I don't get tortured. I don't get held against my will.

I guess these are terrible times for my personal freedoms... I don't know how I will get by.
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Your freedoms haven't changed? What about roving wiretaps, listening in on your conversations without you being suspected of anything? Or keeping a public record of what you check out from the library? The loss of habeus corpus? Search without warrants? Holding without legal justification? Justification of torture?

Oh your freedoms have changed, my friends, whether you've felt the effects or not.
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Good one Caz. You're a real marvel with the words. You instantly brought yourself so much credibility. You should apply for an editor job at a major newspaper. Do you know anyone, or can you prove that anyone has been affected by a loss of habeas corpus? I know it's a hot button for people like yourself that like to express your beliefs with stories as a opposed to facts, but it doesn't cut it. Go back to Mr. Roger's neighborhood.
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My freedoms haven't changed at all. Ben Franklin's world was also a damned sight different than ours. Instantaneous mass destruction was not on the menu nor even pondered.
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