Fun Facts About The End of the World.

Posted by Alex in Mentalfloss, Religion on January 24, 2007 at 2:53 pm

Whether it’s two billion years from now, when the Sun will no longer provide enough heat to support life on earth, or two hours from now in a nuclear holocaust, life on earth will inevitably come to an end. All religious traditions grapple [wiki] with this fact. Here’s what they’ve come up with so far.

Christianity

Things Get Bad: At least according to the Book of Revelation, things will be very bad indeed. Weeping, gnashing of teeth, rending of garments, blood in the streets, etc. All of this will occur during "the Tribulation [wiki]."

And Then: the Second Coming of Christ, wherein Christ - to quote the Nicene Creed - "comes again in glory to judge the living and the dead."

Until: the Rapture [wiki], wherein all Christians (or at least good ones, depending on your particular denomination) are moved from earth directly to heaven with no dying or passing Go.

Islam

Things Get Bad: The Last Judgment in Islam is known as the Qiyamah [wiki]. At a time of God’s choosing - no one knows when - Jesus (yes, that Jesus) will come down from heaven, end all wars, and kill ad-Dajjal [wiki] (Islam’s equivalent to an Antichrist).

And Then: Each and every person who ever lived will be bodily resurrected and judged by God. Those found wanting will be sent to hell either temporarily or permanently; those who have been good and faithful go to heaven.

Until: No, that’s it, actually. For the record, most Muslims do believe that some "People of the Book," that is, Christians and Jews, will also get to heaven.

Judaism

Things Get Bad: The end of days [wiki], or acharit hayamim, will be marked by conflict and tumult. When? Well, the Talmud states that the world will only last 6,000 years - so many Orthodox Jews believe the world as we’ve always known it will end in 2240 CE.

And Then: All of Israel’s enemies will be defeated, the twice-destroyed Temple will be rebuilt [wiki], the dead will be resurrected, and the Jewish Messiah will become King of Israel.

Until: God intervenes in the Battle of Armageddon, saving the Jews, evil leaves the world, and earth becomes perfect. It’s like Belinda Carlisle song: "They say in heaven love comes first/We’ll make heaven a place on earth."

Buddhism

Things Get Bad: According to the Buddhist holy scripture, the Tipitaka, we’ll know the end of the world is coming when morality disappears and people start following the "10 Amoral Concepts." Those concepts? Theft, violence, murder, lying, evil speaking, adultery, idle talk, covetousness, greed, and perverted lust. Um, uh-oh.

And Then: Once morality disappears, things will degenerate into misery.

Until: A Buddha named Maitreya (known in English as the "future Buddha"), the successor to the Buddha we all know and love, will arrive on earth and begin teaching the pure Dharma.

Hinduism

Things Get Bad: Most Hindus believe that we are currently living in Kali Yuga [wiki], the Iron Age, or age of darkness. Unfortunately for us, that means that evil is on the upswing. Eventually, Vishnu will become incarnate for the 10th and final time. By then, karma will have been completely turned on its head, with good people suffering needlessly and the evil rising to ranks of power.

And Then: Shiva [wiki], "the Destroyer," will dissolve the evil and corrupt universe. And then, because all things are cyclical, the universe will simultaneously be reborn.

Until: We start getting evil again and get ourselves into another age of darkness. Most Hindus are careful not to put an exact time frame on eschatological matters. If you do, you can end up looking awfully foolish …

Not the End of the World: People and Groups Who Falsely Predicted the End-time

Can’t Keep Those Davidians Down

In 1942, a Seventh-day Adventist named Victor Houteff [wiki] broke away from the church with 11 followers and founded a "Davidian" branch of the church in Waco, Tex. Davidian. Branch. Waco. You see where this is going. But what a winding path the church took.

After Houteff died, his wife prophesied that the world would end on April 22, 1959. In point of fact, about the most interesting event of April 22, 1959, was the Yankees’ Whitey Ford [wiki] striking out 15 Washington Senators en route to a 1-0 victory. Several hundred members of the Davidians left after the non-Apocalypse, but - remarkably - dozens remained faithful. In 1962, Benjamin Roden [wiki] became the group’s leader and proclaimed himself successor to not only Ms. Houteff, but also to King David, noted star of the Hebrew Bible. Roden’s wife became the new Davidian (get it?) when she took over the church. She quickly declared that in the Second Coming, Christ would assume the body of a woman.

You’d think by now the group would have theological whiplash, and yet it stayed together until 1981, when Vernon Howell, who would later rename himself David Koresh [wiki], showed up. By the time the ATF raided the compound in 1993, the Branch Davidians had 130 members. While their numbers dwindled after the massacre, Davidianism is still alive: A few people still claim to follow Koresh’s teachings.

Go Ahead, Drink the Kool-Aid.

Jim Jones, cult leader of the People’s Temple [wiki], portrayed as
the loving father of the "Rainbow Family"

By now, "Don’t drink the Kool-Aid" is a well-known admonishment not to buy into collective wisdom. It derives from the 1978 Jonestown massacre, when 914 followers of Jim Jones [wiki], included 276 children, committed suicide. But here’s the thing: No one at Jonestown drank Kool-Aid [wiki]. They drank cyanide-laced grape Flavor Aid, a Kool-Aid competitor - but the poor, innocent Kool-Aid man has been taking the fall ever since.

Prominent (False) Prophets

	Henry Adams Famous for: being the grandson and great-grandson of American presidents and writing the memoir The Education of Henry Adams, which Modern Library named the Best Nonfiction Book of the 20th century. Prophecy: In his old age, with the confidence of a man who would not live to be proved wrong, Adams [wiki] declared the world as we know it would end in 1921. What Happened Instead: Adams’ world as he knew it ended in 1918.

	Louis Farrakhan Famous for: leading the Nation of Islam, organizing the Million Man March, believing in flying saucers. Prophecy: Farrakhan [wiki] said that the Gulf War - the first one - would be "The war of Armageddon, which is the final war." What Happened Instead: It turned out not to be the final war - not even between those two countries in that particular place.

	Jacob Bernoulli Famous for: being the mathematician behind the "Bernoulli numbers." Prophecy: Bernoulli [wiki] predicted that a comet first seen in 1680 would soon return and slam into the Earth with Deep Impact-esque results. What Happened Instead: The comet hasn’t been seen since.

	Ronald Reagan Famous for: being the 40th President; 1951’s Bedtime for Bonzo. Prophecy: In 1971, Reagan [wiki] said, "For the first time ever, everything is in place for the battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ." What Happened Instead: The world went on, and Reagan got elected president, which was a boon for conservatism and also for jelly beans, Reagan’s favorite snack.

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COMMENT

137 comments to "Fun Facts About The End of the World."

JB
January 24th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Regarding this entry:

>>>>>>>>>>>>
Prophecy: Farrakhan [wiki] said that the Gulf War - the first one - would be “The war of Armageddon, which is the final war.”

What Happened Instead: It turned out not to be the final war - not even between those two countries in that particular place.

December 1, 2001
http://www.noi.org/statements/transcript_011201.htm

October 30, 2002
http://www.noi.org/statements/transcript_021030.htm
anywho
January 24th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Most of the people at jonestown were forced to drink the flavor-aid, they didnt do it willing (unless having a gun to your head counts as willing)
Emperor
January 24th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
And let us not forget the magazine of the apocalypse:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_Is_Nigh
gail
January 24th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
The Reagan quote is a little unfair. Time magazine reported at the time that Reagan said “”no one knows whether those prophecies mean that Armageddon is a thousand years away or day after tomorrow. So I have never seriously warned and said we must plan according to Armageddon.”
Ashley
January 24th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
It’s not all the Christians who go in the Rapture. It’s the 144,000, and no more, best Christians. All the hundreds of millions of others get to stay for an extended playdate with the Beast and Co.
rebecca
January 24th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
ashley, is that a mormon thing? i don’t recall that from my days among the born again crowd.
Mokuwai
January 24th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
No it’s not a “mormon thing”
hana
January 24th, 2007 at 10:39 pm
I think it’s from the Jehovah’s Witness. I know it isn’t my belief, so I can’t say anymore on the subject.
Matt
January 25th, 2007 at 12:35 am
The majority of Jim Jone’s followers did not even drink Flavor Aid. They were murdered with injections of cyanide between the shoulder blades. Some were gun down and a very few drank the juice.

The government corroner for New Guenea said that so many people he examined during a 24 hour period were murdered by injection that he gave up examining the bodies after 200+.

The freedom of information acts released tons of documents regarding this incident.

Either the news media were led astray on this or intentionally mis-reported the facts.
Katie
January 25th, 2007 at 1:21 am
Only 144,000 virgin men are going to Heaven during the rapture. It’s all there in Revelations.

Revelations 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
Withheld
January 25th, 2007 at 4:34 am
“These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.”

Oh shit. Time to get laid. I *really* don’t wanna risk spending eternity with the universe’s biggest nutjob.
Anon
January 25th, 2007 at 4:55 am
What about the Mormons?

Video “What Mormon Theology is Really All About” on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7v_V8qSIIo
Kelvin
January 25th, 2007 at 7:19 am
Speaking of Reagan and the Apocalypse in the same paragraph reminds me of his legislation to outlaw Russia.

http://radio.about.com/od/funradiothingstodo/a/aa060503a.htm

Too young to remember it myself, but still a classic.
ANON
January 25th, 2007 at 7:30 am
Only a Jew would post a Reagan quote.
Raoul
January 25th, 2007 at 9:30 am
You shouldn’t have even gone into talking about the rapture. That idea is non-Biblical. It’s fiction. It can’t be found anywhere in the Bible, unless you choose to mis-interpret a single verse in the New Testament. Plus, most Christians don’t believe in it, if you want to go by numbers.
Andie
January 25th, 2007 at 9:33 am
Er… Â¿Que?
naser
January 25th, 2007 at 11:15 am
I’m a moderate Muslim who try to practise his religion to the teeth, but often procrastination takes hold during prayer time and I’m lured into lethargy :S But, hey thanks for exposing the truth behind Islam, its this moderate side of Islam that I’m attracted to. The fact that Islam lets you be so liberal (liberal as not in “Hippie Left centred Liberal”) if you interpret its messages right is what actually gives me the momentum to carry on being religious even though I’ve been touched by the wind of atheism that comes with my Mechanical Engineering courses
John
January 25th, 2007 at 11:51 am
“These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins”

We got to read the whole chapter not just take one verse out of context. “For they’re virgins..” means people who believe in the saving grace of God and thus showed their love to Him by keeping his commandments.

Revelations is a book with a lot of symbolism, but everything in it is true. The 144,000 simply means a great multitude that nobody can count (read Rev 7:4,9).

Good day. John
L.N.
January 25th, 2007 at 11:59 am
You forgot the best one! In Norse eschatology, the end of the world is known as “Ragnarok” (umlaut over the “o”). You can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnar%C3%B6k

Here’s my summary:

Things get bad: First comes Fimbulwinter–three years of unending cold–then the stars vanish from the sky, earthquakes and tsunamis rip at the land, etc. etc.

And then: The fire giants, all condemned men and a slew of other mythical creatures do battle with the gods and all the fallen heroes of Valhalla. Everyone dies. The earth is burnt then flooded.

Until: Renewal is borne by the destruction. The sun is reborn, crops spontaneously sprout, and the descendants of the two surviving humans–Lif and Lifthrasir–will live in peace and harmony. The end.
Deedee
January 25th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
So, let me see if i’ve got this right. The Firstfruits (all men) get in. The rest of us don’t. Do I really want to spend eternity with a bunch of fruits, no women at all, and some major nutjob in charge? Hell with that lamb and his fruity friends. I’ll take my chances with the beast.

Revelations 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
jimmie c boswell
January 25th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
if you all want to know how this world always ends, for refuing to repent. it’s already written in TheTorah, in TheLittle Book of Parashas Noach. and it ain’t every going to happen any different, to this world’s refusing to repent. because this is the way G-D says it forever is, in this world happy with their being in gan hell, instead of gan eden. so the resurrection of the dead is a forever on going process, even in this second comming of adam and chaooah just again. as we only have 7 days of G-D (6818 man years) to get this right. as TheG-D of TheTorah has given TheTorah over and over from between three to four million time. always with the same results in this world refusing to repent, here actualy while all are in TheTorah Happening. and how do i know this? well HaShem G-D always comes to speak to adam melech here as always in TheTorah. so the choice of gan hell rathe than gan eden is your didn’t doing in live action Torah events. shalomcha vshalomech???,?…
Ih8everything =(
January 25th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
I hate it when the world blows up =(
Ted
January 25th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Oh man.
I think things just got bad.
What’s the next step, again?
AntiPope Ringo
January 25th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
No Church of the SubGenius?! J. R. “Bob” Dobbs has been prophesizing the end of the world since 1953! On July 5th 1998, X-Day, Alien sex gods will wipe out the humans and save only the SubGenii! PRAISE “BOB”!
ryan
January 25th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
As a devout Christian, I have to say (and forgive me if this is already in the comments) that the Rapture - which is where all believers in Christ are taken out of the world and up to Heaven - happens first. That is what sparks the Tribulation, a seven year period in which the Antichrist (the great deceiver) takes control of the world. The Antichrist has control and eventually the world will almost destroy itself, until Jesus comes back (”The Second Coming”), and takes control of the world. After this comes Judgement before God and all of the people who do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and Lord of the Earth will (read) GO TO HELL!!!

Jesus said (in John 4:16) “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” This means that if you do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, you WILL NOT enter the Kingdom of God!!! (you go to Hell)

Sorry if this story doesn’t coincide with your belief of how the world will end…I am not trying to appease anyone, I am simply telling you all the truth…

IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THIS, PLEASE GO READ THE BIBLE!!!!

With all that is going on in the world today, it seems that all of the events that are foretold in the Bible (specifically, the book of Revelation) are already being set in motion, and I personally believe that the Antichrist is already alive and on the Earth right now, but he will not be revealed or take power until AFTER the Rapture.

So in the event that Christians everywhere start mysteriously vanishing, REPENT AND TRUST IN JESUS!!!
bob
January 25th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
The number 144,000 is symbolic in Christianity, being the result of 12,000 (12 being symbolic) multiplied by the number of tribes (12). The number 144,000 is representative of all who will be saved.

Only Jehovah’s Witnesses and some fundamentalist Christians who lack knowledge of the rest of the bible interpret this number as literal.
ryan
January 25th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Follow up:

I read above that some of you think that only 144,000 people go to Heaven. FALSE!!!

When the Rapture happens, ALL CHRISTIANS will be taken out of the world, out of harm. The 144,000 are ones that are martyrs for Christ during the Tribulation (12000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel, not the Israel of today, but the Biblical Israel)

This does not mean that only 144,000 people will go to Heaven. Why would God only allow 144,000 out of trillions of souls go to Heaven?!?!

And anyway, that should not concern you. All you need to know is that the world is going to end, and if you do not have a personal relationship with Jesus, you are going to Hell.

Hell is a real place, but you do not have to believe in it to go there!!!

Please, if you have any questions, go talk to a Pastor or someone at your local Church (Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, etc.).
DIck
January 25th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
Ryan

Whoa brother. Slow down. Stop being a sheep and think for yourself. The only thing your church wants from you is your money. Xians are living in the DARK AGES. It’s really pretty scary to think that there a millions of people out there who still buy into that shit. Religion was created by simple men who couldn’t explain things like thunder and lightning. Then smarter men turned it into a form of social control for the ignorant masses. It seems they did too good a job. WAKE UP and smell reality.
danny
January 25th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
The world actually ended back in 2004 when the Red Sox won the world series. Sheesh.
danny
January 25th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
I completely disagree with some of the above comments regarding the rapture because it’s fairly obvious what one needs to do:

You go out at night, eatin’ cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercurys and Subarus
And you don’t stop, you keep on eatin’ cars
clifford
January 25th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
danny, you made me lol’ed twice!
R.Dawkins
January 25th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Ryan, I have to agree with you on all counts. Truly, those who fail to understand the objective reality of Hell - where Satan rules in torment - are doomed to end up there!

I strongly urge all you sinners, blasphemers, muslims, jews, and mormons to hop straight over to your local Pastor for a quick conversion and baptism. Your life and soul is on the line!

I wouldn’t go so far, Ryan, as to allow Baptists, Methodists and Lutherans into the fold, though. Stick with the Pentecostals - you are sure to get taken up with them. Your odds are quite a bit worse with those others…

In fact, we might want to refine things just a bit, too. I would carefully suggest that it would really only be those that reject the evil of gay marriage, understand truthfully the fact of our co-existence with the dinosaurs, and believe with honest and whole heart in the Intelligent Design of our sacred bodies that should make it in the Rapture. If we open it up to ALL christians, we will let in a number who don’t quite measure up, if you take my meaning.

So make sure you repent or you will all GO TO HELL!!!!
snoopius
January 26th, 2007 at 12:08 am
Wrong idea of Christianity given in the Christian account of the end of the world. Yes, the Second Coming of Christ does happen. But next is not the Rapture! Christ’s Second Coming means that he has come to fulfill the kingdom of God on Earth! There is a new heaven and new earth — it is all renewed. This is the end of history. There’s no point of the Rapture then. It’s not that the point of Christianity the one goes to heaven. It is to fulfill the Kingdom of God, which will happen with the Second Coming. And btw, ryan does not speak for all Christians. The majority do not believe in the Rapture. (And yes, i consider myself an orthodox Christian. I believe in the physical resurrection of Christ, virgin birth, Jesus as both God and man, etc.)
Jeremy
January 26th, 2007 at 12:22 am
hey man, you have the Christian view wrong. by biblical theologians, the rapture happens first, then the bad things like the bowls trumpets and seals, and then the second coming of Christ.

Plus what Ronald Regan said doesn’t make him a false prophet, he was stating a fact, that what ha happened in the past could set the stage. that wasn’t even a prophecy, but more of an opinion. If he gave a date and time when it would happen, then that would be a false prophecy, but he didn’t. so it wasn’t.

- Jeremy
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 12:28 am
There will be no such thing as the rapture. The 144,000 annointed ones is a literal figure of ones who will be with Christ in heaven. The world will not come to an end, its the system of things that will end. God’s original purpose was for man to inhabit the earth to times indefinite and to live forever. Christ will not come back to earth as a human, he is already in presence setting up his Father’s Kingdom and preparing for the war of Armageddon. The Bible mentions only one religion that is acceptable to God, all others will be non existance soon and the true faith will be revealed. Anything that is contrary to God’s purpose is the Antichrist. There is no such thing as a firey burning hell, the word hell represents the common grave of mankind. People who are dead will not be resurrected to be judged. Death has aquitted them of their works on earth, (the wages of sin is death). Their judgement will be within the thousand year reign of Christ after he brings the human-race back to perfection and before he hands over the Kingdom to his heavenly Father. Very few people living today will survive the coming tribulation and the final battle at Armageddon and the wailing and nashing of teeth will be ones who think they understand the true meaning of what’s interpeted in scriptures and realized their religion has deceived them. “No,” I’m not Jehovah’s Witness, yet Jehovah is the name of the true God.
Niran
January 26th, 2007 at 12:40 am
Believe what you want in whatever faith that you want. But for a Christian nation, a Muslim nation,a Jewish nation, a Hindu nation to attack another country, attack civilians not of the ‘right” ,(read:dominant) culture, to start wars etc(pick and choose any country, plenty of examples for every faith)… are not in keeping the the true message of religion and faith. Faith is faith, either you practice the true doctrine of the religion or you do not. To believe in the second coming or other mesianic saving and still practice state/church sanctioned murder/war/exploitation is to have absolutely no personal relationship with any God.
Chris
January 26th, 2007 at 12:58 am
As someone who believes devoutly in the HG2G, we all know that the world already ended, when the answer and the question to life the universe and everything existed simultaneously in our universe. Lucky for use the dolphins have pulled a parallel earth into existence for us to continue living on, and most people hardly noticed…
Logan FIdler
January 26th, 2007 at 1:54 am
Ronald, would you mind telling me which religion the Bible apparently says is the only true one? Would that be Judaism or Christianity, because as far as I can tell that looks like two religions. Certainly you don’t claim to have objective certainty (which may or may not exist) on such haughty and clearly unjustified beliefs.

P.S. Jehovah isn’t a real word or a real name for the God of the Old Testament, YHWH. Please keep that in mind before you make such a bold declaration.
Logan Fidler
January 26th, 2007 at 1:56 am
Wait, the fun continues. Here’s what you said Ronald:

“the wailing and nashing of teeth will be ones who think they understand the true meaning of whatâ€™s interpeted in scriptures and realized their religion has deceived them.”

Doesn’t that seem ironic to anyone else?
Chris Tolworthy
January 26th, 2007 at 2:56 am
Great list! But for fairness I should point out that the “tribulation then rapture” theory is only held by evangelical Protestants. Most Christians (i.e. Catholics, orthodox, liberals, preterists, etc.) say there is no evidence in the Bible for the seven year tribulation theory, and it was all invented in the 1830s, but that’s another story.
Halili
January 26th, 2007 at 3:59 am
The expression “Jesus (yes, that Jesus) will come down from heaven, end all wars, and kill ad-Dajjal.” doesn’t originate from Kouran, The Holy Book of Islam. Thus one cannot assume its according to islam.
chakala
January 26th, 2007 at 4:04 am
in ISLAM its not Jesus that will come back but MOHAMED
Tim
January 26th, 2007 at 7:25 am
Article misleading, at least in regards to Christianity. For over 1800 years no one in Christendom had ever heard anything of a secret “rapture”.

Many Christians believe, have historically believed, that the future holds bright things. There are likewise many Christians who hold that the “Great Tribulation” was Christ’s prediction of what ultimately took place in AD. 70.

It is primarily 20th century American “evangelical” Christianity who takes the doom-and-gloom stance.
Fahad Bin Rahat
January 26th, 2007 at 9:14 am
chakala Says:
January 26th, 2007 at 4:04 am
in ISLAM its not Jesus that will come back but MOHAMED

Chakla misinterpreted it in above post. But the original post is correct and the truth that is, Jesus (Isa, P.B.U.H) will come back and Not Muhammad (P.B.U.H).

There are similarities in great religions of world, like Islam and Christianity that indicate that one among them is right one. and May Allah (God of all worlds, herein and hereafter) (SWT) guide all those who are on wrong path. (Amen)
Gncrlo
January 26th, 2007 at 9:43 am
You cant interprete the Bible as an ordinary Book, it has too many cultural influence of the time.

So by saying “12″ it doesnt means 11+1 people, it means “a complete group of people”.

so 12 times 12 times 1000, means a really truly complete group of people.

I dont think you believe me.

but..

think again, if you read the authentic Bible as it was written, would you understand it?

could it be, that too many cultural influence of the time it was written has anything to do with it?

cya!
Arcesius
January 26th, 2007 at 11:04 am
not sure if this will ever be read, but pretty certain the Hindu “end of the world” is incorrect. We’re currently in an ascending “Dwapara”. Although, the whole descending “Kali” is often understood to be where we’re currently at. If I recall, the mistake occured because of a misinterpretation of how long the “ages” last. It would make more sense that we’re in an ascending age, since we do seem to be developing a lot technologically, as well in other areas.

This current “dwapara” began around 1700 A.D. and will end around 4100, at which time the ascending “treta” age will start, and last another 3600 years (Kali = 1200, Dwarpara = 2400, Treta = 3600, Satya = 4800, each having a twin for the corresponding ascending/descending trend)

If you want more info, look it up. It seems to make a lot of sense
BibleThumper
January 26th, 2007 at 11:04 am
All I know is, the antichrist is a republican…
Ed
January 26th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Thats a good point - could be Cheney.
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
The YHWH or JHVH generally referred to as the Tetragrammaton (literally meaning “having four letters” is significant of the divine name Yehwah, or Yahweh used by the Nation of Israel during its covenant reign as God’s chosen people.
After the Jews lost favour with God, first in 607 BCE, then permanently in 70 CE did the name Yahweh become a superstitious myth and was removed from the scriptures. (note: 607 BCE was the beginning point of the 7 times mentioned in Daniel 4: 14-16 referred to the “Appointed Times of the Nations”)!
When the Bible was translated into english by William Tysdale in 1535 (during the Catholic inquisition) was the divine name restored as Jehovah. The King James Bible followed suit in 1611 copying the name four times in text.
The wailing and nashing of teeth scenario is only ironic to ones who are unaware of the coming tribulation which will expose organized religion on earth as Babylon the Great highlited in detail in Revelation.
The true religion is the same as Christ and his followers initiated during Jesus ministry on earth. God announced that during the last days he would restore the true faith out of the nations a people for his name. That name become apparent in 1935 CE. So look for a group of people who are no part of the world, have emence love for one another and follow Christ’s example as well as they can considering their imperfect state. Oh yes, they are also well hated which is highlited clearly in Matthew 24: 9, and harmonizes with John 15: 20,…(persecution).
Ashley
January 26th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
No. You’re Incorrect. The end of the world happens when we all argue about religion as if our own personal interpretation is the correct interpretation and should be/is the definitive interpretation of whatever religious subset we claim to be apart of and anyone who doesn’t agree with everything said is wrong/going to [insert place to send bad people].

Then we all get on the internet and comment one after another and it explodes. ‘It’ being entirely subjective.
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
The YHWH is referred to as the Tetragrammaton (literally meaning four letters)the divine name in Hebrew, “Yahweh!”
William Tysdale translated the first Bible into english (under the Catholic inquisition)in 1535 restoring the divine name to the english version Jehovah. The King James followed suit in 1611 translating the name 4 times in text.
The wailing and nashing of teeth scenario is ironic only for ones who are unaware of the times in which we live and to the coming tribulation where all of Babylon the Great will be exposed. Highlited in detail later part of Revelation, chapters 17-18.
The true religion would be exemplified by the teachings of Jesus Christ and his apostles who went door to door, had emence love for one another, who were no part of the world and were persecuted for following the scriptures contrary to organized religions. Look for familiar followers who share the same sentiments of Christ and there you have it!
Hank
January 26th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
God is pretend. It is time we start acting like the modern civilization that we are supposed to be and save the fairy-tales for our children. Religion teaches nothing but bigotry, hatred, and intolerance. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Too many people today, because of man’s technical advancement, view God with a vision of pretend and this system with its motivated factors such as governments and religions has not shown the accurate truth of our times, which is why bigotry, hatred and tolerance seems the norm.
Civilization as modern as it is only reflects the temporary dellusion it has become in order to deceive people of God’s righful purpose for mankind. His adversary is working in the vicinity of the earth to assure that outcome.
Man has dominated his independence from his creator for centuries and its unfortunate for the majority of the population alive on earth today, that just like the days of Noah, we are on the threshold of the conclusion of this system of things on this planet and as brought out in Matthew 7: 13-14, very few will survive the coming tribulation.
Trab Jameson
January 26th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
for the record, that mormon video is completely obscured and made purely for the purpose of spreading hate against us. We have not declared war on anyone, we dont force people to convert, merely offer the oppertunity to share what we believe. According to LDS beliefs, the end of the world will follow much of Christianity, with signs of the revolution, false prophets, and finally, the coming of Christ. Everyone who has lived and died will then be resurrected and brought into heaven. your only punishment for sins that you have not asked to be forgiven from? a prefect memory of them, for all eternity, unless you repent.

sounds pretty good to me. Everyone gets into heaven
Hank
January 26th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
“very few will survive the coming tribulation.”

Where is your evidence that something like this will even occur. Your savior thought it would happen in his lifetime, and I quote:

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. “Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, THIS GENERATION WILL NOT PASS AWAY UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE . Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Matthew 24:29-35 NAB)

It would seem to me that he was a little off on this one. Granted this does not “prove”, if you will, my earlier points about bigotry and the like. That is not what this article is about, we’re talking rapture here. I am more than capable of providing examples of those things if you would like. Now I will wait to hear from the apologists.
DIck
January 26th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. Deal with the fact that you are nothing but worm food and that’s it. End of story. No heaven for you.
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Taking in consideration that you have read the entire chapter of Matthew 24 from its beginning and perhaps you have studied secular history of the 20th century in chronological order, you could varify that the prophecies Christ spoke of have taken place. Verses 21-22 is evidence after the fact that a tribulation never seen by the masses of population on earth since its beginning until now is still before the fact, (yet future). Verse 22 gives clear indication that an event is very close to fulfillment in our time that could result in the destruction of the human-race, but it also shows that God will intervene in mankinds affairs on account of his chosen ones.
Many scholars who study interpetations of scriptures suggest God’s chosen ones are the Nation of Israel, because the titlement of Israel is consistantly used throughout. Israel is symbolical referring to all peoples, all tongues and all nations, (Gentiles), just as a new heavens and a new earth is speaking literally about Governments on earth replaced by God’s Kingdom and the population (earth) refers to a obedient people previlaged to fulfill God’s original purpose.
Andrej
January 26th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
There is a quite entertainingly written site that deals with about fifty different end-of-world scenarios: http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm Zzapp, flip, freeze, crunch, chop! Enjoy.
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
Tray Jameson, your concept of a resurrected repentance where everyone is admited into heaven is a pleasant sound theory that anyone could endorse and enjoy, but it is so numerously contradicted by the scriptures that it is in reality, impossible. Heaven is the option for an elite few, whereas the earth was created solely for the home of obedient mankind, which was God’s original plan for man before he fell into his own disparity, thereby delaying temporary, that purpose.
Hank
January 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Im afraid that you failed to see what i was getting at…jesus (your lord,your christ) said to the people that were supposedly standing before him:

â€œThere be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.â€Matthew 16:28

Some christians lie to you and claim jesus was referring to his modern day believers. The words â€œsome standing HERE will not taste deathâ€ clearly refutes such nonsense. Obviously the people he was speaking to died, and curiously jesus STILL isnâ€™t here to claim his kingdom.

p.s. Lets not even get started on Isreal
I spell god with a lower-case g
January 26th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
reâ€¢liâ€¢gion (rÄ-lÄj’É™n) n. :
1. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
2. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
3. A control device based in fear and dependant on the ignorance of its FOLLOWers and BELIEVErs -contrary to all of the worlds historic and vast scientific evidences, to date.

uh… yea, number 3.
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
Christ was talking to his apostles in Matthew 16: 28 and its obvious they could not live into our modern era, but he was referring to future present day true Christians who follow in his footsteps and adhere closely to the scriptures.
These will be the same survivors mentioned in Revelation 7: 13-14 who will come out of the great Tribulation.
Jesus Christ was present in his Kingdom when the “Appointed Times of the Nations” ended after 2520 years of the 7 Bible times that began in 607 BCE.
His claim of the Kingdom will be revealed to unbelievers and to many self confessed Christians (who claim to know God) during the Tribulation.
Hank
January 26th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Allow me to retort -

Jesus says that all that he describes (his return, signs in the sun, moon, wars, stars, etc.) will occur within the lifetime of his listeners. He purposely defines their generation and NOT a future one. Considering that NONE of those signs took place during the resurrection and that he uses the term of â€œHeaven and earth shall pass awayâ€, Clearly Jesus is prophesizing that nearly 2,000 years ago Armageddon SHOULD have occurred. Luke 21:25-33

“There will be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars, and on earth nations will be in dismay, perplexed by the roaring of the sea and the waves. People will die of fright in anticipation of what is coming upon the world, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But when these signs begin to happen, stand erect and raise your heads because your redemption is at hand.” He taught them a lesson. “Consider the fig tree and all the other trees. When their buds burst open, you see for yourselves and know that summer is now near; in the same way, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Luke 21:25-33 NAB)

Matthew 10:23 also has Jesus telling his disciples that the second coming will occur before the disciples finish preaching in Israel: “When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.” (Matthew 10:23 NAB)

Any way that you look at his, what he said was going to happen in a specific time DID NOT. All this taken from your good book in perfect context.
Ronald Fleming
January 26th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Your notion about my good book in perfect context is indeed not accurate, as I see no relation of Christ refering to his disciples about these signs becoming fulfilled during his time. Those disciples he mentioned are before the fact, or definitely future. As he relates in Matthew 28: 19-20

Go therefore and make disciples of people of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, (20) teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And, look, I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

Its without doub’t that the system of things in which he was addressing in the later verse was implicating a much later time period,… our time today.

During his ministry while still on earth there were many events that were hundreds of years away from fulfillment, such as the ending of the Appointed Times of the Nations, (Gentile Times) many of the prophecies he addressed in Matthew 24 were not to be fulfilled until the 20th century when man’s technical acheivments could initialize God’s purpose, so Jesus obviously was not talking about Armageddon occuring within his time.

There are many scriptures that have implemented fulfillment when the actuality is still future.
Escapee
January 26th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
Isn’t it interesting how people who claim to believe the literal truth of every word of the bible always seem to find some way to re-interpret the passages they find inconvenient.
Ronald Fleming
January 27th, 2007 at 12:34 am
Its also equally interesting to note that there are people who cannot handle the truth of accurate Bible interpetation because it doesn’t always approve of their lifestyles, or their customs, therefore they dismiss certain scriptures as a mystery. The Bible does not contain a single verse that cannot be explained.
Thus the reason why there are so many various religions (when the Bible mentions only one) that have affiliation with doctrines of men, rather than keeping accurately the authentic word of God. Religions made God adaptable to man, whereas the holy scriptures related the requirements for man by God.
With the help of modern technology the authenticity of the scriptures have been accurately restored.
Slimppy
January 27th, 2007 at 6:22 am
Well technically the 2nd coming of Jesus has already come, a komodo dragon gave birth to a 5 children in what has been called an ‘immaculate conception’. Praise lizard Jesus or “Lesus” as he is known in inner circles.

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Also the last part about Hinduism, Shiva will destroy the world - not destroy all life, it’s implied that humans will in effect destroy each other or rather destroy the resources they use and end up killing everyone regardless. The world will shrivel up (metaphorically) and all life will die. It then says that a new planet will be created (or an already existing planet) will give rise to life, and repeat the process.

Also you left out the Mayans!
On December 21st, 2010 - the Mayans predict that the world shall END.
Morton
January 27th, 2007 at 9:50 am
Of all the explanations, the Buddhist philosophy seems to be as close to sanity as it can get. Just imagine, no S.Beast&Co, no “tribulation”, “rapture”, 144,000 people magically being transported to heaven, standing to be judged before a “heavenly committee” and other such nonsense.

In fact, we could say it mirrors what happened 2500 years ago when the Buddha walked the earth spreading his teachings and elevating the moral, physical (health) and spiritual state of people around the world, which isn’t as hard to believe as the son of god magically creating a walkway through the ocean, and unleashing plagues of locusts etc.
RJ
January 27th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Religion; the manifestly irresponsible fantasy wish allowing grown-ups (who should know better), to continue believing in their childish “imaginary friend”.. long into adulthood.. I miss Carl Sagan.
Ronald Fleming
January 27th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Well RJ, in all due respects when it comes to religion the childish imaginary friend is quite real, in fact the discrepancies of organized religion are also real, but very shortly in divine due time those religions who have deceived mankind for so many centuries will be dealt a death blow when the great tribulation begins.
When religion is brought to its non-existant state there will be one more very real incident, you, me and the rest of the population of the earth will face besides chaotic turmoil.
Jose
January 28th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Ronald, your bible considerations are sound. I hope to be part of the ones who will come out of the great tribulation that is ever closer. It makes me sad at times that very very few people, including ones in this post, will agree or give any positive feedback to sound good reasoning. The polite yet frank manner of your comments are refreshing…
RJ
January 28th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
re: Well RJ, in all due respects.. when the great tribulation begins.. etc., etc., blah blah blah blah blah..

Well how do you know that?.. because.. if you believe in the bible (signs, omens, prophecies etc.).. then that means that the future is sending messages backwards to the present.. Do the great “prophetic” books then (including your precious bible) prove that the future exists and has sent signals backward to the present and past?.. I don’t follow.. It lacks logic and evidence.. and I dont think you understand for one second, biology, paleontology, astronomy, cosmology etc.. scientific thought.. in fact, never mind.. and don’t worry about it.. my expectations for you (in terms of actually, y’know, saving the planet ourselves through, I don’t know, hard work or something?.. well).. couldn’t be any lower.. Go back to sleep and await the your beloved rapture.. You deserve it.. It’s a hatefeul state of mind.. by a hateful little primate species.. of which I (regretably most days lately) am reluctantly still a member..
RJ
January 28th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
..in all due respects of course..
Ronald Fleming
January 28th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
Your comment reply RJ is exclusive enough to relate that you possibly would not be a survivor in the coming tribulation and that’s quite alright, regardless what your opinions are towards scriptural content, you will no doub’t be a part of this fast approaching prophecy either way.
Having a favourable humbleness such as Jose would be a wise decision on your part, but as the Bible brings out that we are all responsble for our own actions, positive or negative.
Because these final days are in direct comparison to Noah’s day before the deludge destroyed the earth, I could assume by reading about the very few survivors during that tribulation, that they possibly had the same attitude towards Noah’s warning such as you have today.
They might have even spoke similiar words just like you have RJ, but when the ark door was seal by God and the rains came, I could also assume when critical times became apparent, the attitudes of the ridiculars might have changed,…but to them it was too late, but you RJ,… there is still time.
You can see for yourself that events in this world are unfolding rapidly and I’m sure no-one would think any less of you if you walked a little wiser and paid a little more attention to the signs.
CJ
January 28th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
To settle all the fighting over everything ……

Everyone is 100% right when it comes to their own beliefs and religions, and 100% wrong when it comes to everyone else’s.

If everyone would follow this we would all get along and war would end.

As for Christianity …. do your research, you will find that it was actually started and based off of the fear of what the Pagans and Wiccan’s were doing. My own cousin is an ordained Catholic minister (ordained by the Catholic Church) and was given the chance to read the actual dead sea scrolls and he changed his religion to Paganism on the fact that he read that his own religion was lying to him based on what he saw in them was that the Woman known back then as Goddess actually is more powerful and the true ruler over the men or Gods and all followers. The very first Christian’s knew this which is why the omitted half the truth when they first created the bible. It is a known fact that Christianity is a MAN MADE religion. If you can, prove me wrong. I would love to hear from you girls and guys. E-mail me at daisy1@15074@yahoo.com and see if you can actually disprove what I have written here.
CJ
January 28th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
To settle all the fighting over everything ……

Everyone is 100% right when it comes to their own beliefs and religions, and 100% wrong when it comes to everyone else’s.

If everyone would follow this we would all get along and war would end.

As for Christianity …. do your research, you will find that it was actually started and based off of the fear of what the Pagans and Wiccan’s were doing. My own cousin is an ordained Catholic minister (ordained by the Catholic Church) and was given the chance to read the actual dead sea scrolls and he changed his religion to Paganism on the fact that he read that his own religion was lying to him based on what he saw in them was that the Woman known back then as Goddess actually is more powerful and the true ruler over the men or Gods and all followers. The very first Christian’s knew this which is why the omitted half the truth when they first created the bible. It is a known fact that Christianity is a MAN MADE religion. If you can, prove me wrong. I would love to hear from you girls and guys. E-mail me at daisy1_15074@yahoo.com and see if you can actually disprove what I have written here.
CJ
January 28th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
Think about it …. if it weren’t for women there would be NO life. Man cannot exist without Woman. So instead of fighting on here about the end of the would, go thank all those females that helped make you. Your mother, grandmother, and all their mothers before them.
CJ
January 28th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
i am not a sexist …. Woman can not exist without Man. But let’s face it … when was the last time you heard of a man bearing and bringing forth life in this world????
Ronald Fleming
January 29th, 2007 at 12:09 am
Jose, your comment is very sincere and if you want to be a survivor through this coming tribulation, the method is relatively simple, however, to do so will take diligent effort on your part.
I could meerly suggest for you where to go to seek help, but God does not work through instant gradification, as he reads the hearts of all who seek him.
Because a relationship with God is a personal one, your prayers to him must also be personal. To do so, just shut your door to your room, leave all your anixeties behind and ask your heavenly Father to give you guidance towards the faith he recognizes on this earth today. He may not respond instantly, but then he also knows the urgency of our times, so if someone comes to your door and wishes to share information about his Kingdom, give them a listen, the message may be exactly what you want to hear.
Ronald Fleming
January 29th, 2007 at 1:19 am
When it comes to religious indifferences and the opinions of everyone being 100% right, or wrong, I agree CJ, there is a fight to be had for supremacy, but if one is to use discernment to understand the accurate knowledge of scriptures, then it is God and his word that is 100% correct.
It was commendable that your cousin saw the discrepancies of the Catholic Church, but its unfortunate that Paganism does not disclose accurate truth either, as the mentioning of the woman in Bible text (Dead Sea schrolls) was not a literal female person, rather a oneness of spirituality, (as an illustration of Jesus Christ and the surviving congregation) in comparison to a married couple.

Disproving what you have written in your comment is not necessary. If you follow the counseling in Proverbs 3: 5-6; Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. (6) In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.

Adhering to your beliefs and opinions just for sake of argument is futile, but having a conscientious heart and an open mind towards truth will set you free of speculative objectives.
All organized religions, not just Christianity, are man made, each one basing man made doctrines that are infiltrated into the holy scriptures and very easy to reveal.

You are correct about women being the source of life here on earth because of a woman’s child-bearing qualities and all are deserving of deep respect and praise, but there would be no life without God who created everything for a purpose.

It is not the world that will end, its the system of things that is suppressing all mankind that will end. To fight over an inevitable event would not be practical as it is God’s word who discloses that fact, not mine!
tomgrier
January 29th, 2007 at 10:33 am
666 — Ronald Wilson Reagan, 6 letters each name as Dave Mustain of Megadeth pointed out in the 80’s

The Mighty Whore that sitteth upon the many waters
which are many tongues and nations — the United States
with its many ethnicities and its soulless materialism
This also goes along with the Great Satan rhetoric from other Middle Eastern sources. (Cheer up! All Americans go to Hell!)

Bush is the direct heir of Reagan via his father. Will
he ignite World War III in the name of inducing the rapture?

Gog and Magog — there is a town near Sherbrooke, Quebec called Magog.

Wormwood and gall — sounds to me like Chernobyl.

The Piscean Age ends with the extinction of humanity through endless population growth according to astrology. This is a heterosexual problem since they seem to think they have a Divine Right to keep having children. Also when men love each other, it is not love, but homosexuality with the emphasis on sex. Jesus
said, “A new commandment I give unto thee, that ye love
one another,” and we know he was talking to men, not women, when he said it.

I would put Walt Whitman’s Song of Myself, sections 48-52 up against the Sermon on the Mount any day for inspirational reading, but people act like the Bible is the only book ever written.

John of Patmos experienced the Revelation about 1500 years before Columbus, so his vision is spotty and dim, but in some places it seems to make some sense.
Watch out, because the Mighty Whore will be stricken
with plagues in one day. Come out of Babylon my people!

Time to turn the tables and head for Mexico. The Mexicans would be wise not to let us in!
Oy Gevalt!
January 29th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Good googly goo, folks!!! I needed a laugh this afternoon. First prize goes to Ryan, who literally had me laughing out loud. Second prize to Mr. Fleming. Runner up goes to CJ–who, although on the right track, made this blatant error: …very first Christianâ€™s [sic] knew this which is why the omitted half the truth when they first created the bible.

CJ–the Christians did not create the bible, but merely added to it.

Religion is fascinating and a part of life, but folks, it’s like my daddy used to say: Tend to your own knittin’. In other words, keep your religious views to yourself. Who knows, perhaps one day, ONE of you might be able to say “Nanny nanny booboo…I told you so!!”
Ronald Fleming
January 29th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
The 6 letter configuration is a fine example short of the perfect number of 7, but I assume there was not enough room on this page to disclose any more than tens of millions of names with the exact count.
The numbers 666 are significant for reference as the number of man (mark of the beast) only. They carry absolutely no value to events and incidents in relation to Biblical prophecies. Hense, man and his over-emphasized imagination.

Every single human being who ever walked the earth throughout history who died went to hell. The Hebrew word (Sheols) and Greek word (Hades) are the interpeted words used for hell, and when translated back to modern day english they both mean grave. Jesus Christ himself spend 3 days in hell. You should never get the word “Gehenna” confused with hell. It was a firey dump outside the city of Jerusalem.

The rapture is thought to be the meaning of all Christians in 1 Thessalonians 4: 17, but closely examining scriptures that coincide with it shows the Bible is referring to the 144,000 only.

Yes, there is a town in Quebec with that name. The Gog of Magog is a Biblical reference that nost of us alive on earth today will never experience. Found in appearance in Revelation 20: 8 it emphasizes the abyssed Satan and his followers being released during the closing of the thousand year reign of Christ Jesus after the battle of Armageddon.

Wormwood is a woody plant with a strong bitter aromatic odor found in Palestine and it is represented in scriptural expressions concerning injustices and unrighteousness.

Because the Bible was mostly written while the Nation of Israel was under the covenant reign as God’s chosen people, astrology was not practised by the Israelites, therefore is irrelevant to Biblical prophecies.

When Jesus was addressing new commandments to love one another, he was referring to all Gentiles, both female and males. He would never emphasize homosexuality when his heavenly Father clearly points out that it is obscene, therefore not approved by divine standards. Its ironic how homosexuals will use that verse to support their lifestyles, thereby clergy and church-goers who tolerate gays are bringing ostracism upon God’s holy name.

Since the Sermon on the Mount occured hundreds of years prior and most of those prediction came true within the 20th century, I guess inspiration expressions are definitely a matter of choice. The Bible is the only book when interpeted correctly, that informs man of his requirements to his creator.

John, the last surviving apostle of Christ in exile on the island of Patmos did not (and would not) experience the Revelation, rather he was given signs by God’s angel in a vision. The visions cor-ordinate the number 7 to represent completeness (last Bible book) and to show God’s people the things that must shortly take place.

Coming out of Babylon is a future prophecy, but most people do not understand the modern implications of it according to the chapter of Revelation. It refers to Babylon the Great (harlot) which represents all false religions (Christendom) on the earth and of its destruction by the the Scarlet Coloured Wild Beast that stems from the original Wild Beast. The scarlet beast is recognized as the United Nations organization on earth formed within the boundaries of the Wild Beast,…the United States of America.

Once the Tribulation begins, there will be no escape for anyone, but Mexico will at least be warmer than most climates.
Ronald Fleming
January 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
I’m pleased Mr Gevalt that you found the posts on here humorous, because a disposition of happiness is much more appropriate than any other alternative.
Your daddy, no doub’t a very wise man, was teaching you to be a responsble citizen and tending to your own knitting is an older expression used to politely say, “mind your own business!”
But religion, a fascinating part of life, was never mean’t to become the numerous spirituality organizations according to the teachings of Christ and his followers. His example was priority of all others.

But because man has inherited sin and imperfection, he does have a tendency to exaggerate the word of God in order to satisfy his own selfishness. When he becomes so disoriented in his quest for the spiritual side, its no wonder he is confused about what his requirements are and to what consequences that follows when God’s righteousness standards are ignored.

The days of Noah are a prime example of our days today. Noah was giving warning to the people of the earth at that time about a pending deluge which was a divine judgement because of the wickedness of man. I’m not sure if the ridiculers of Noah used those same expressions of “good googly go, or nanny nanny booboo” during his time, but it was obvious very few people took him serious enough to warrant building something as stupid as an ark. Non the less, Noah did warn the people of the coming rains and I can safely assume those people would have traded their sarcastic remarks for a room in the ark, rather than threading water all day.

Today is quite similiar, but it is yet future and there are people emphasizing warnings just as Noah did during his time.
I’m sure Mr Gevalt, your father would never hesitate to warn you if your immediate life was in danger from some unforseeable occurence. Giving warnings of pending tribulation is commendable on the person(s) addressing it, but just as the people who were warned of the flood, it depends entirely on how you react to it.
I’m sure your remarks on the coming day of Jehovah probably won’t match the cute ones you use today and I’m equally sure because of your lack of insight on scriptural matters that you would possibly consider your fate as a natural phenomenon.
bryan
January 30th, 2007 at 11:35 am
Interesting feedback.

Wait about 7 years and most of you will have your answers, presuming everything goes well. Just not necessarily the ones you expected (goes for me too).
Oy Gevalt!
January 30th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Thanks for the warning, Mr Fleming…I’ll keep it under advisement.

And, just because I don’t spout off all I might or might not know about scriptures, doesn’t mean I’m not well-versed in them. I prefer to a) keep it to myself and b) not tell others what to do or believe (i.e. “tend to my own knittin’”).

One other thing, it’s Ms Gevalt, thank you very kindly.
Ronald Fleming
January 30th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
My sincere apology for the gender mixup Ms Gevalt, but in the nature of your reply it actually sounded quite mistakeably male agressiveness.
As for the warning Ms Gevalt, it does not belong to me to harbour it personally, it happens to coincide with God’s purpose. If it was left up to me I would only address good fortunes to everyone who has a sincere love for their fellow humans.

I’m also not addressing your knowledge of the scriptures and if you are well versed in them you would be aware that God does not require you to keep them to yourself, nor stay silent about the pending tribulation that will trigger the battle of Armageddon.
Of all the religious groups in the world very few are adhering to God’s requirements and there is only one that is actually giving his warning on a personal level, yet they are the most hated and persecuted organization on earth. And no, I am not a member of their congregations.

The Bible clearly gives reference that “faith without works is dead” and staying silent about pending tribulations is the same as being blood guilty towards any victim. Whether the person heeds the warning, or ignores it, if you have announced it, you have followed Christ’s example when he dusted his sandals from the doorsteps of unresponsive ones and carried on to the next door.

Here again Ms Gevalt, I apologize for the mistake of gender and appreciate your reply comments.
OmniNegro
January 31st, 2007 at 3:44 am
Forgive me if someone already said this, I stopped reading about a tenth of the way through.

I have read the entire bible and I understand what it says.

I have decided that if your deity thinks I’m unworthy of admittance to your heaven then I would rather not have anything to do with him/her/it.

I renounce your deity and your opinions of guilt.

If I am guilty of anything, it is being exactly what your omnipotent and omniscient deity made me into. If he/she/it has a problem with that then he/she/it can go to the same hell he/she/it wants to send me to.

How can you say that your deity is merciful or even fair if he/she/it makes us inclined to be things that he/she/it disapproves of?

Please do not try to answer these questions, rather think of them and reflect on it for your own benefit.

Bless you all in your respective ways and I’ll see you each in your respective hells.
OmniNegro
January 31st, 2007 at 3:46 am
You blank out the word H e ll?

Sorry for the double post but I don’t want anyone to think that I said something profane.
bryan
January 31st, 2007 at 10:20 am
Hopi prophecy

Things get bad: And than all living things have a choice.

And than: The choice is made. One road leading to the equivalent of Heaven on Earth, the other to Armageddon.

Until: It’s time to start over again.
Ronald Fleming
January 31st, 2007 at 10:31 am
I’m not sure what version of the Bible you have read, but the true authentic scriptures do not express a tormenting buring hell where unrepentive sinners go forever. That is a teaching doctrine of man adapted by certain religions.
You say you have read the entire Bible through, yet you follow the patterns of organized religions in the world. Unless you are one of the annoited 144,000 you will not reside in heaven. Most churches teach if you are good you go to heaven and hell if bad.
Sorry, but God created the earth as man’s home, heaven was reserved for an elite few and hell doesn’t exist except for the grave.
If you want help in understanding the Bible correctly and accurately, ask God in sincerity and he’ll show you.
Ladybear
January 31st, 2007 at 9:57 pm
All is Illusion.

and to Matt…

# Matt Says:
January 25th, 2007 at 12:35 am

The majority of Jim Joneâ€™s followers did not even drink Flavor Aid. They were murdered with injections of cyanide between the shoulder blades. Some were gun down and a very few drank the juice.

The government corroner for New Guenea said that so many people he examined during a 24 hour period were murdered by injection that he gave up examining the bodies after 200+.

The freedom of information acts released tons of documents regarding this incident.

Either the news media were led astray on this or intentionally mis-reported the facts.

It was Guyana. NOT New Guenea!
Ronald Fleming
February 1st, 2007 at 11:14 am
Bryan, your comment # 90 can be described significantly in detail in Matthew 7: 13-14.
bryan
February 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 am
Ronald,

Wouldn’t be surprised, in the Hopi prophecy material this is the fourth world corralating to the Bible, the first was the Flood, the second was Sodom and Gomorrah, the third was Babylon.

All the prophecies tie together.

They just don’t end up the way most people think.
Michael
February 3rd, 2007 at 1:49 am
Reply to Omninegro,
We are what we are because of the choice made in the garden of Eden by our ancestors. Their disobediance (sin) separated them (and us) from God. However He (God) loves you (and me) so much that He has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him. Jesus said: I am The way, The Truth, and, The Life…No one comes to The Father except through Me. Regardless of what caused our “fallen state” we are all guilty of sin and worthy of death, but, Jesus died in your (and my) place. It is now our choice to accept (or deny) the free gift of Eternal life that He offers everyone.
Nostra D
February 5th, 2007 at 12:20 am
I BELIEVE THE WORLD IS GRADUALLY RETURNING TO THE FAITH IT ABANDONED IN THE ARROGANT AFTERMATH OF THE RENAISSANCE.SOON HUMANNITY WILL REALIZE THAT THE ONLY WAY TO FIND PEACE AND HARMONY ON EARTH IS TO START PRAYING AND READING THE BIBLE AGAIN AND TO BELIEVE IN GOD.MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.RATHER CONCENTRATE ON FINDING A CURE FOR HIV,NOTE THE GROUNDBREAKING REASEARH BEING DONE ON CROCBLOOD IN THE USA AND SYDNEY AUSTRALIA.HOW ABOUT A CURE FOR NERVE,BRAIN,MUSCLE RELATED INJURIES,IE: CERABLE PALSY? ONCE AGAIN,HAVE A LOOK AT CROCODILE,CROCBLOOD,COLD BLOODED FACTS.lIVE FOR TODAY,GOD WILL HOLDS THE KEY TO THE FUTURE.STOP COMPLAINING AND START SAYING THANK YOU.STOP LIVING WITH REGRETS AND DISCOVER YOUR PURPOSE IN THE WORLD.READ “A PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE” STOP BEING SO SELFISH AND GREEDY! HOW ABOUT GETTING THE DISABLED MOBILE,WORLDWIDE UP SIDEWALKS AND MOUNTAINS,MAYBE BY USE OF A MOVEABLE TRACK? REMEMBER,IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANY ONE OF YOU THIS SECOND AS YOU CROSS THE ROAD! HOW MANY OF YOU REALLY DISCOVER A PURPOSE IN THE WORLD?
NO DUDE,IT IS NOT JUST TO LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN SELFISH NEEDS AND MISERABLE EXISTANCE! THERE IS A REASON WHY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US R BORN,EVEN IF JUST TO BE PART OF THE REASON WHY THE REST OF US HAVE A PURPOSE.I PRAY FOR GODS BLESSINGS ON EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEINGS INDIVIDUAL TRACK RECORD THROUGH LIFE.REMEMBER WHEN U PASS OVER ONLY YOUR SKIN AND BONE LEAVE EARTH,THE SPIRIT,SOUL,INTELLECTUAL,CARRING PART OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING IS ALIVE FOR EVER.INSTEAD OF GIVING MONEY AND FOOD TO BEGGARS,STREETCHILDREN AND THE OTHERWISE USELESS FEELING INDIVIDUALS,HOW ABOUT SUPPLING THE WHOLE WORLD WITH BIBLES,FEED THE WORLD MENTALLY AND SPIRITUALLY WITH GODS WORD,AND SEE THE MAGICAL CHANGES HAPPENING WORLDWIDE.KOOS KOMBUIS AND LISA SE KLAVIER,”EN DIE HELE WERELD RAAK STIL” IT IS NOT THE END MATES,ONLY MIDNIGHT! BUT STILL I BELIEVE PRETTY SOON HUMANITY WILL BE SILENCED AND EVERYBODY WILL BELIEVE!
Wesley C
February 5th, 2007 at 3:36 am
Wow! Guess the person who posted this “world’s gonna end” stuff is stting back right now, having a cup of mocca java and smiling as he reads the cavalcade of comments coming from people who JUST NEEEEEEEED to aire their views… …. hear that?……………………………its the sweet serenity of silence… Now… who’s keen for a beer?
Ronald Fleming
February 5th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Nostra D, your comment # 96 shows you are a considerate and caring person and sincerely in your heart you would welcome change on earth as opposed to its current state and its a normal impulse of humans to long for peace and harmony among the different cultures that make up the human family.
I can reassure you, that is also God’s promise to correct matters in his own due time. The problem with this correction which will take place very soon, is its not going be on man’s terms.
Unfortunately, God will remove the elements that are preventing peace on earth and uphold the dreams of many who are fed-up with man and his suppressive attitude.
Two of those main elements are “governments and religion.” In order to fulfill that promise in accordance to his purpose, all supporters of governments and all members of religions opposed or ignorant of his purpose will also be removed.
It is clearly brought out in Revelation 18: 4 God, through his angel gives a stern warning to get out of those religions. The entire chapter 18 deals exclusively with Babylon the Great, the name given to all religions that are false in content and opposed to God’s strict standards.
Also its apparent that many individuals alive on this earth today do not wish to give up their selfish intentions and they have no will to change their personality which is needed in order for peace to become a reality. Remember, God reads hearts and treacherous hearts is what is deceiving mankind these days.
Religion has deceived many by introducing man-made doctrines that are not part of the holy scriptures. One in particular that you addressed in your comment was pertaining to the human soul.
Man was created a living soul, he does not possess one and the results of death on a soul is clearly evident in Ezekiel 18: 4 and again in Ezekiel 18: 20 that the soul that is sinning, it itself will die.
It is commendable to have knowledge concerning God’s word, but its equally important to have accurate knowledge of truth of correct interpetation.
Its not a difficult effort, if you are willing to ask God in a personal prayer to direct your attention to the one and only faith mentioned in the Bible. Ephesians 4: 4-6
You already have a good heart condition, you just need to sincerely search for him to guide your steps.
Sheli
February 8th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
What REALLY happens:

If nothing untoward HITS planet earth first, the sun will continue through it’s life span and, upon becoming a red giant, ingulf most of the inner planets (including earth) in the process.

I predict this will happen in about 5 billion years…….

The End.
Ronald Fleming
February 8th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
My goodness Sheli, the sun will ingulf most of the inner planets including earth in about 5 billion years time, then I better get prepared for it!
Michael
February 10th, 2007 at 12:05 am
The way we see things is not necessarily the way it is, its just the way we see them…For around 6,000 years now the prophecys of the Bible have been fulfilled with 100% accuracy…And that IS the way it is.
Charlene
February 10th, 2007 at 11:50 am
hey to everyone i just wanna say that i could probably find more logic in a teaspoon than in some of you guys!!!!!!

i fully agree with Wesley C!!!!!!!

i mean really! No one knows whats gonna happen when the world ends… & thats that!

yeah the world is gonna end eventually but so what? live for the moment! life is too short to be conserned with sh*t like this….
Ronald Fleming
February 10th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
“For around 6000 years now prophecies of the Bible have been fulfilled with 100% accuracy.” Michael, I was beginning to wonder if anyone out there ever carried an actual timeframe according to Biblical history. There are more people inclined to believe there are millions and billions of years, rather than meger thousands.
So I assume correctly you are familiar with one of the major last prophecies that is scheduled to take place very soon according to the book of Revelation.

Charlene, the world is never going to end, the system of things is what is referred to the ending of the world. God clearly points out that the earth was made to inhabit indefinitely, even forever.
Born Against Christian
February 12th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
GOD IS DEAD!!

To Mr. Flemming - people of your mindset are at the root of what is wrong with the world. Since you claim to have so much faith in the bible and the lies it teaches, i ask you sir, do you follow all that it teaches.

Murder : They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Rape:If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

Slavery:However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Human Sacrifice:”Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Intolerance:Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

I beg of you to wake up….stop the lies…hate…
I will at any time put facts up against faith
Born Against Christian
February 12th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Gospel Contradictions:

1) How many generations were there between Abraham to David? Matthew 1:17 lists fourteen generations. Matthew 1:2 lists thirteen generations.

2) Is Paul lying? In Acts 20:35 Paul told people “to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’” Since Jesus never made such a biblical statement, isnâ€™t Paul guilty of deception?

3) When did the leper become not a leper? (Matthew 8:13 & 8:14) Jesus healed the leper before visiting the house. (Mark 1:29-30 & 1:40-42) Jesus healed the leper after visiting Simon Peterâ€™s house.

4) Who approached Jesus? (Matthew 8:5-7) The Centurion approached Jesus, beseeching help for a sick servant. (Luke 7:3 & 7:6-7) The Centurion did not approach Jesus. He sent friends and elders of the Jews.

5) Was she dead or just dying? (Matthew 9:18) He asked for help, saying his daughter was already dead. (Luke 8:41-42) Jairus approached Jesus for help, because his daughter was dying.

6) Just what did Jesus instruct them to take? (Matthew 10:10) Jesus instructed them not to take a staff, not to wear sandals. (Mark 6:8-9) Jesus instructed his disciples to wear sandals and take a staff on their journey.

7) When did John find out Jesus was the Messiah? (Matthew 11:2-3) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the messiah. (Luke 7:18-22) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the Messiah. (John 1 :29-34,36) John already knew Jesus was the Messiah.

Who made the request? (Matthew 20:20-21) Their mother requested that James and John, Zebedeeâ€™s children, should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom. (Mark 10:35-37) James and John, Zebedeeâ€™s children, requested that they should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom.

9) What animals were brought to Jesus? (Matthew 21:2-7) two of the disciples brought Jesus an ass and a colt from the village of Bethphage. (Mark 11:2-7) They brought him only a colt.

10) When did the fig tree hear of its doom? (Matthew 21:17-19) Jesus cursed the fig tree after purging the temple. (Mark 11:14-15 & 20) He cursed it before the purging.

11) When did the fig tree keel? (Matthew 21:9) The fig tree withered immediately. and the disciples registered surprise then and there. (Mark 11:12-14 & 20) The morning after Jesus cursed the fig tree, the disciples noticed it had withered and expressed astonishment.

12) Was John the Baptist Elias? “This is Elias which was to come.” Matthew 11:14 “And they asked him, what then? Art thou Elias? And he said I am not.” John l:21

13) Who was the father of Joseph? Matthew 1:16 The father of Joseph was Jacob. Luke 3 :23 The father of Joseph was Heli. Christians shall try to LIE and tell you that one is the heritage of Mary and the other Joseph. This is utter bullshit, the Hebrew and Greek cultures NEVER regarded the bloodline of the mother. They were patriarchal societies which only concerned themselves with paternal lineage.

14) How many generations were there from the Babylon captivity to Christ? Matthew 1:17 Fourteen generations, Matthew 1:12-16 Thirteen generations.

15) Matthew 2:15, 19 & 21-23 The infant Christ was taken into Egypt. Luke 2:22 & 39 The infant Christ was NOT taken to Egypt.

16) Matthew 5:1-2 Christ preached his first sermon on the mount. Luke 6:17 & 20 Christ preached his first sermon in the plain.

17) John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. Mark 1:14 John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. John 1:43 & 3:22-24

18) What was the nationality of the woman who besought Jesus? Matthew 15:22 “And behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, Have mercy on me, 0 Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.” Mark 7:26 “The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation, and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.”

19) How many blind men besought Jesus? Matthew 20:30 Two blind men. Luke 18:35-38 Only one blind man.

20) Where did the devil take Jesus first? (Matthew 4:5-8) The Devil took Jesus first to the parapet of the temple, then to a high place to view all the Kingdoms of the world. (Luke 4:5-9) The Devil took Jesus first to a high place to view the kingdoms, then to the parapet of the temple.

21) Can one pray in public? (Matthew 6:5-6) Jesus condemned public prayer. (1 Timothy 2:8) Paul encouraged public prayer.

22) If we decide to do good works, should those works be seen? Matthew 5:16 “Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works.” 1 Peter 2:12 “Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that … they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.” This contradicts: Matthew 6:1-4 “Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of themâ€¦that thine alms may be in secret.” Matthew 23:3-5 “Do not ye after their [Pharisees'] works … all their works they do for to be seen of men.”

23) Who did Jesus tell the Lordâ€™s Prayer to? (Matthew 5:1, 6:9-13 & 7:28) Jesus delivered the Lordâ€™s Prayer during the Sermon on the Mount before the multitudes. (Luke 11:1-4) He delivered it before the disciples alone, and not as part of the Sermon on the Mount.

24) When was Christ crucified? Mark 15:25 “And it was the third hour and they crucified him.” John 19:14-15 “And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour; and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your kingâ€¦Shall I crucify your king?” John 19:14-15.

25) The two thieves reviled Christ. (Matthew 27:44 & Mark 15:32) Only one of the thieves reviled Christ. Luke 23:39-40.

26) In 1 Corinthians 1:17 (”For Christ sent me [Paul] not to baptize but to preach the gospel”) Paul said Jesus was wrong when he said in Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing themâ€¦” Clearly one of these people is wrong, either way, itâ€™s a contradiction.

27) When did Satan enter Judas? Satan entered into Judas while at the supper. John 13:27 Satan entered Judas before the supper. Luke 23:3-4 & 7

28) How many women came to the sepulcher? John 20:1 Only one woman went, Mary Magdalene. Matthew 28:1 Mary Magdalene and the “other Mary” (Jesusâ€™ mother) went.

29) Mark 16:2 It was sunrise when the two women went to the sepulcher. John 20:1 It was still dark (before sunrise) when Mary Magdalene went alone to the sepulcher.

30) There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulcher and they were standing up. Luke 24:4 There was only one angel seen and he was sitting down. Mark 28:2-5

31) How many angels were within the sepulcher? John 20:11-12 two, Mark 16:5 one.

32) The Holy Ghost bestowed at Pentecost. Acts 1:5-8 & 2:1-4 The holy Ghost bestowed before Pentecost. John 20:22

33) Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples? In a room in Jerusalem. Luke 24:32-37 On a mountain in Galilee. Matthew 28:15-17

34) Where did Christ ascend from? From Mount Olivet. Acts 1:9-12 From Bethany. Luke 24:50-51

35) Can all sins be forgiven? (Acts 13:39) All sins can be forgiven. Great, Iâ€™m happy to know God is so merciful, but wait (Mark 3:29) Cursing or blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgivable.

36) The Elijah mystery: (Malachi 4:5) Elijah must return before the final days of the world. (Matthew 11:12-14) Jesus said that John the Baptist was Elijah. (Matthew 17:12- 13) Jesus insists that Elijah has already come, and everyone understood him to mean John the Baptist. (Mark 9:13) Jesus insists that Elijah has already come. (John 1:21) John the Baptist maintained that he was not Elijah.

37) Who purchased the potterâ€™s field? Acts 1:18 The field was purchased by Judas. John 20:1 The potterâ€™s field was purchased by the chief priests.

38) Paulâ€™s attendants heard the miraculous voice and stood speechless. Acts 9:7 Paulâ€™s attendants did not hear the voice and were prostrate. Acts 22:9 & 26:14

39) Who bought the Sepulcher? Jacob, Josh 24:32 Abraham, Acts 7:16

40) Was it lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death? “The Jews answered him, we have a law, and by our law he ought to die.” John 19:7 “The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death.” John 18:31

41) Has anyone ascended up to heaven? Elijah went up to heaven: “And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.” 2 Kings 2:11 “No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man.” John 3:13

42) Is scripture inspired by God? “all scripture is given by inspiration of God.” 2 Timothy 3:16 compared to: “But I speak this by permission and not by commandment.” 1 Corinthians 7:6 “But to the rest speak I, not the Lord.” 1 Corinthians 7:12 “That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord” 2 Corinthians.
Ronald Fleming
February 12th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
No “Born Against Christian,” its not the mindset of people like me who are the root of what is wrong with this world, “no, far from it,” its ones who do not pay close enough attention to detail and accuracy who try and deceive others through their own ignorance. One doesn’t have to relate far in order to set an example. There is only one “M” in my name.
You could have saved yourself much typing work and research in your post # 104 if you were to understand the books of the old testament were during a period in history referred to the “Before Common Era” (BCE)which was before the coming of the Messiah. (Jesus Christ)
The Nation of Israel was subjected to some very harsh laws under the Ten Commandments brought down by Moses on Mt. Sinai. At that time the Nation of Israel drew up a covenant with their God Yahweh, which consisted of 600 detailed laws known as the Mosaic Law in which they were to follow in order to accept the titlement of God’s chosen people. As you could see, disobeying those laws out of the covenant were very harsh.
Gentiles and all non Jews were not a part of that covenant arrangement.
May I suggest sir, you pay more attention to what you are reading before criticizing on your own accord.
May I also suggest you obtain a more updated and detailed Bible that has been corrected properly so you can interpet what you are ridiculing with a more accurate understanding.
Your following post # 105 is just too easy. If you evaluate your “GOD IS DEAD” theory from those examples, just continue the way you are, you don’t have a hope in hell to survive Armageddon!
You’ll find out that fact very soon.
JT
February 14th, 2007 at 12:56 am
“â€œFor around 6000 years now prophecies of the Bible have been fulfilled with 100% accuracy.â€ Michael, I was beginning to wonder if anyone out there ever carried an actual timeframe according to Biblical history. There are more people inclined to believe there are millions and billions of years, rather than meger thousands.
So I assume correctly you are familiar with one of the major last prophecies that is scheduled to take place very soon according to the book of Revelation.”

Do tell.
Ronald Fleming
February 14th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Could I assume correctly JT that you are not familiar with this last major prophecy regardless of the many signs and events taking place?
JT
February 15th, 2007 at 9:53 am
You assume correctly, hence my request.
The anti-religion
February 16th, 2007 at 9:19 am
Something to consider while reading through all this.

It is a fact: no one knows when the earth will end. It is a fact: more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else. It is a fact we will all die one day. It is a fact we dont know for sure what will happen to us after we die. It is a fact the rest is just a lot of theory, speculation and debate (apart from taxes - another fact of life).. and of course there is the element of ‘faith’.

The truth hurts. The world is full of good and evil. On that somber note enjoy every living moment.
basementjax
February 16th, 2007 at 10:12 am
So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,spoken of through the prophet Danielâ€”let the reader understandâ€” then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until nowâ€”and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or, ‘There he is! do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the electâ€”if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time
Thamsanqa Bengu
February 19th, 2007 at 3:27 am
Ronald Fleming -

Hi, I am a Jehovah’s Witness from Johannesburg, South Africa and would like to commend your stand regarding the truth borne in the bible. I have been a JW for a little more than ten years now and have been preaching since I was a kid. I have learnt that there are people who are genuine in their confusion and seek the truth and there are those that are just wasting your time and seek only to argue with you. The latter, one can only ignore cos they will in fact waste your time and no matter how good your reasoning is they will disagree. Forget about these people and focus your energy on people like Jose (post #71).

I am very impressed with your knowledge of the bible and the way you can explain it to others, you are one of a few people I know who are not a Jehovah’s Witness who understand bible prophecies accurately.

Did you learn all that from personal study?
Ronald Fleming
February 21st, 2007 at 11:42 am
Thank you Thamsanga, your comment was most inspiring. I have been studying the Bible for over 45 plus years and never succeeded in interpeting any meaning of it until I began understanding the chronological history of mankind. Because history coincides so much with the Bible, relating factual events during my lifetime of 50 plus years on this planet began to make sense during the early 80’s and now as we progress in the 21rst century, it has become more clearer.
I have studied religion through personal experience (involvement), but I was born with an inquisitive drive for truth rather than hearsay and that got me into deep trouble with church leaders. I could never understand why their teachings were sometimes so contradictary with scriptures that I would consistantly strive for answers, but to no avail.
I also learned that God had a name and wondered why people never used it, when everyone else in reference was used accordingly.
I’m also aware of people who are habitual arguers and realize that even God himself discourages authentic Christians not to waste time speaking sacred words to ones who have no respect for his authority.
But, even I have seen people use stupid lame comments at times only to realize after they have done reasonable research, have found a margine of truth disclosing the error of their ways.
I have found Jehovah’s Witnesses very knowledgable in scriptural matters, infact they have shown me more detailed information that saved possibly many more years of study. They believe I am on the right track and have been encouraging me to understand how important Hebrews 10: 24, 25 is when searching for scriptural facts. Even though I have attended several meetings, gone to assemby’s and large conventions, I do have issues that are not presentable with the Elders, but I do believe they are the religion spoken of in Ephesians 4: 4-6 and many verses in different chapters do seem to point their way.
I assume that when the tribulation starts my quest for truth will be answered in full, but the consequences of my actions and lack of works will also be my demise, as I’m understanding lately that not being baptised is equivelant to the ark door being shut.
Along with the study of history and through use of mathematics its very clear that we are indeed in the last days of this system of things (more appropriately, seconds). I also realise that one must pick up his own torture stake (not cross) and not to be part of the world, just as Christ commanded. I know I’m not going to heaven, yet I know I’m not bound for hell either. I quit celebrating Xmas 35 years ago seeing how phoney it is and learned that Christ’s death is the one significance event that’s more important than his birth.
Guess things aren’t all hopeless yet huh? Thanks for your comment, may Jehovah bless your efforts.
Christian
February 22nd, 2007 at 12:08 am
Ronald Fleming, I have read all your posts and I have observed your knowledge clearly. However, one thing that makes me uncertain is why you resort to calling God Yahweh. God is unique, why would God need a name? You need a name when you need to differentiate between two things, and because there is only one and true God, he does not need a name. The God of Abraham like it is said in the Bible. Please, if I am mistaken guide me to where it says in the Bible so I can correct myself, thank you.
Ronald Fleming
February 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 pm
I guess it would make a difference on what translation of Bible you have Christian. You see, the original Hebrew text contained God’s name 6828 times but it was disclosed as the letters YHWH which was referred as the tetragrammaton. God’s personal name was handed down to Moses on Mt Sinai approximately the same time the Nation of Israel was handed down the Ten Commandments and of course you should know that the Ten Commandments were a part of the covenant arrangement the Israelites had with God in order to fulfill the titlement of God’s chosen people of which consisted of over 600 individual laws known as the Mosaic Law. It was reserved for the Nation of Israel only.
The YHWH was refrerred in Hebrew as Yahweh in name form. Unfortunately the exact pronunciation of the name was not preserved when the Bible was translated into Aramaic and the Greek language. The sacred name, except for a few fragments copied into the “Greek Septuagint” from the Hebrew texts was substituted for the title “Lord, Adonai, God, Almighty God, etc.
This was also around the time the Nation of Israel broke the covenant for the last time and no longer retained God’s favour.
The name of God was removed from all translations when it was thought to be a superstition to pronounce his name without varification of its authenticity.
However, it was not until 1535 when William Tysdale copied the Bible into english using the Latin Vulgate as reference and smuggled copies of the Hebrew text, which contain God’s name. The Hebrew name Yahweh was pronounced Jehovah in english. Even though Mr Tysdale’s copy was not completely accurate as he was translating the scriptures into english during the time of the Catholic Inquisition of which he was executed by the church for doing so.
But the King James Version translated into english in 1611 restored the divine name of God as Jehovah 4 times in its copies.
Following copies of the holy scriptures “The Living Bible, King James, New World Translation” (England copy) all restored the name as Jehovah in various locations that required individual identification. Only “The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures” restored the name completely throughout.
The important aspect of Bible translation requires skilled copiers and its equally important that it is translated accurately. As you may recall in Revelation 22: 18, 19 there are serious consequences for adding or removing any meaningful words from the original copies. There will also be repercussions from ones who are in possession of fraudulent copies of God’s word.
Example: suppose you had a friend who stole goods from another person and used your residence to store the goods and the law found you in possession. It would make no difference whether you committed the crime or not. You will be guilty.
When the day of Jehovah comes, you and everyone else who has a fraudulent copy would be guilty of ostracism against his holy name. Best to obtain an accurate copy and begin studying!
Christian
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Okay, I did do some reasearch on the name YHWH and got the general idea that you posted. I have a NIV and a King James Version.

I do recall in Revelation 22:18 that it says that. Could you please post, or email me the scripture where it says God’s name as Jehovah or YHWH please, I need to know.
Ronald Fleming
February 22nd, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Christian, the only Bible that I have in my collection of over 22 copies is the Hebrew Text (The Jerusalem Bible) translated into english from a previous copy of the scriptures from the original scrolls in the 19th century. Even though it uses the Tetragrammaton four vowels of God’s name (YHWH) it uses only a footnote (*) indication of reference to the name used by the Nation of Israel during their covenant reign as Yahweh. Most other english translations used the titlement name as LORD (in capital letters), or in the case where God’s name is amplified. Other translations use different variations to indicate God as the most high.
Of course different language translations use God in their text from their original translations.
However, if you have a King James Version, the name Jehovah occurs 4 times, once in Exodus 6: 3 Psalm 83:18 Isaiah 12: 2 and once again at Isaiah 26: 4.
I have heard that the brand new version of the King James Bible has removed the divine name altogether, but I have not obtained a copy to varify whether this is true or not.
Christian
February 24th, 2007 at 3:14 am
Indeed, consider this coincidence.. I do not. After my first post and after reading your answer, I opened the Bible and read a random area, and the YHWH was reffered to.

Thank you for the clarificiations Ronald, peace be with you.
Ronald Fleming
February 24th, 2007 at 10:39 am
You are very welcome Christian, peace and good fortune be with you also, but unfortunately with this system of things on earth today, that will be short-lived. Let me explain:

It is interesting to note that the Bible seems complicated in all its literal and symbolic signs, even a far fetched fantasy storybook to some, but to the trained obsever, it actually is very simple and completely accurate even to events of our present time today. To be able to grasp the significance of scriptures, there is one main focus point that must be initiated to the individual in order to understand the implications of the tribulation described in Matthew 24: 21, that will soon be released upon mankind.
According to Acts 17: 24 organized religion and churches throughout the world do not teach the correct answer, nor have they the knowledge to interpet warnings of God’s pending intervention into mankind’s affairs. Being personally involved in many churches I have found this varification in Acts 17: 24 to be true. Except for the odd anouncement by organized religous leaders concerning hypothetical events taking place on earth today (the turn of the century to the year 2000 was one) they still fail to comply to the Bible’s accurate account of our time period in relation to prophecy.
Because it is required to have knowledge of a chronological history of man of which must synchronize with the unchronological order of the Bible, (it would take more space to explain) so I’ll use mathematics as a reference point in Bible prophecy to pinpoint our times.
The focus of today had its beginnings in the year 607 B.C.E. If you recall, Biblical and secular history agree in that year when the Babylonian Empire destroyed Jerusalem, slaughtering millions of Jews and taking many captive was the last time the tribes of Judah would have their kingly representation as God’s earthly agents beginning with Saul (1 Sam. 9: 15-17) and the last Hezekiah (2 Kings 25: 1-26).
This was known as “The Appointed Times of the Nations, or Gentile Times” meaning under the law covenant the nation of Israel were no longer God’s chosen people and would be dominated and controlled by non-Jewish nations. The time period of fulfillment is detailed in Daniel 4: 10-17 as 7 times.
Many scholars who studied the chapter of Daniel had concluded that these 7 times were in reference to the 7 years that King Nebuchadnezzar spent suffering under the symptons of lycanthropy, but lexicographers show them to be Biblical times. A Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament by Brown, Driver & Briggs, p. 1105 indicate a Biblical time according to the Jewish calendar to be 360 days. When representing them prophetically Numbers 14: 34 and Ezekiel 4: 6 when applying this formula expresses one day as a year.
Therefore 360 years times 7 equals 2,520 years. This formula also coincides perfectly with the 1,260 day reference in Revelation whereas 1,260 years plus 360 equals 2,620 years, omiting 100 years because there is no Zero century, “hense,” why the 20th century was referred to 1900, the 19th century referred to 1800, the 18th century as 1700 and so on.
Add 2,520 years to the year 607 using our present day calendar it brings us to the year 1914 C.E.
Remember Before Common Era (B.C.E.) times move downward in numbers, where Common Era (C.E.) times go up. Now, many people (including Christians) during those times were led to believe that 1914 indicated in scripture to be the end of the world and with the outbreak of WW I it definitely seemed like it. When the year 1914 was announced by a group of International Bible Students back in 1880 they were referring to the conclussion of the Appointed Times of the Nations and the beginning of the last days.
If those people were reading their Bibles accurately, they would have known that the prophecies spoken by Jesus Christ in the chapter of Matthew 24 had not been fulfilled prior to that year.
Because of ignorance, many who were expecting God to take them to heaven fell away from the church and the faith and teachings such as Charles Darwin’s Theory of Evolution and athiestism became popular and continue during our present day.
Jesus clearly indicated in Matthew 24: 34 a generation who saw the prophecies fulfilling after 1914 would also live to witness the conclussion of this system of things. This would be some-what confusing to experts who evaluate a generation to consist of 70-80 years, which of course would be beyond the ending day. Theoritically the world (or syatem) should have ended in 1994.
The Bible compares our day to Noah’s day and a generation during his time was 120 years. If one was to calculate 1880 plus 120 years (1880 when the year 1914 was first announced) it would point to the year 2000. As you may recall there were many countless predictions of the world ending at this time even by church leaders themselves. Here again, if people would have paid close attention to Matthew 24: 37-39 they would see that “quote 39:” “that they took no note,” meaning the majority of the population of the earth would not be aware of the event. Before the year 2000, the entire world was on notice.
But Habakkuk 2: 3 gives further reference to a delay period of which is the time we are now living 2007!
Knowing a person could not live to be 127 years today, Jesus may have been referring to person’s living during 1914 and onward until the conclussion of the system which is very close. Only God himself knows that day, but take in to consideration God’s number of perfection is 7.
JT
February 24th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
â€œâ€œFor around 6000 years now prophecies of the Bible have been fulfilled with 100% accuracy.â€ Michael, I was beginning to wonder if anyone out there ever carried an actual timeframe according to Biblical history. There are more people inclined to believe there are millions and billions of years, rather than meger thousands.
So I assume correctly you are familiar with one of the major last prophecies that is scheduled to take place very soon according to the book of Revelation.â€”

So… Can you please shed some light on this “major last prophecy that is about to take place” ?
Ronald Fleming
February 24th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
I’m sorry JT, you have patiently waited for my response to your question and I have no excuse for not replying except for good old fashion procrastinating.
Ok, the final major prophecy that will take place soon (might even be this year) is the Scarlet Coloured Wild Beast will rise up in what has seemed like a dormat position for decades and it will expose and ultimately destroy Babylon the Great.
To be able to relate this prophecy in a matter of understanding is first, you must identify these symbolical titles that are used in the chapter of Revelation and second, watching world events is cruical if one knows the signs.
It is important to also describe the Wild Beast that spawns the Scarlet Coloured one. Revelation 13: 1 describes a wild beast ascending from the sea with ten horns and seven heads. The ten horns are symbolic, but the ten diadems upon them actually represent political powers or empires in Biblical history that have shared ruling power simultaneously with the dominant state, or world power at that time. Examples are Media and Persia and lately the United States of America and Great Britian. So the heads of that wild beast represent the 6 major world powers that have come and gone since the USA began settling from immigrants from Europe in the 18th century. Those major powers were Egypt, Asyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome.
So the wild beast, or the seventh head is identfied as the Anglo American world power, USA & England.
Even though the new world and its European ancestors had indifferences for almost a couple hundred years, it was not until WW I and Britian being near defeat did the USA settle their differences and heal the death stroke as in Revelation 13: 3.
Revelation 13: 11-13 goes on to describe yet another two horned wild beast that performs great signs and even makes fire come down out of the heavens to the earth. It is still referring to the Anglo-American world power, but in a more aggressive role on the world stage. The fire out of the heavens is in relation to the first atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan. The aggressive role is clearly evident of the wild beast nature of the US and Britian since the turn of the century, especially in Iraq.
It should be noted that the number 666 is only a symbolic number which represents man who falls below the number 7 of God’s completeness. Triple 6 is gross imperfection.
Prior to the final prophecy in which I will describe shortly, there have been many events that have occured since the turn of the 20th century and beyond that have already taken place, such as Satan and his Demons hurled to the vicinity of the earth (war in heaven)Revelation 12: 7-9, 12.The four horsemen of the Apocalypse. Revelation 6: 2…6: 4…6: 5b…6: 8a.

The seven bowls of God’s anger in which only one more is to be poured during the coming tribulation Revelation 16: 1. All are explained in the 16th chapter.
Ok, here comes the main event that will take place shortly. The scarlet coloured wild beast stems from the seventh horn and it is identified as the United Nations organization in New York City.
There is a verse that describes the UN in association with years that can be confirmed by reading a chronological history of the 20th century. That verse is Revelation 17: 8a
“THE WILD BEAST THAT YOU SAW WAS, (League of Nations formed in 1919 after WW I)
BUT IS NOT, (dismantled in 1939 beginning of WW II)
AND YET IS ABOUT TO ASCEND OUT OF THE ABYSS, (reformed as the United Nations 1946)
AND IT IS TO GO OFF INTO DESTRUCTION.” (Yet future, but will begin its conquest of babylon the Great during the beginning of the great tribulation), Matthew 24: 21.
Babylon the Great (harlot) represents all the entire world of false religion that is deceiving mankind today. (Antichrist(s).
Interesting to note also that Revelation 17: 11 exemplifies the UN as an 8th king, “hense”, the new secondary general of the UN was sworn in as the 8th secondary general. In other words the United Nations organization will develope world status power very soon.
What events that follow up soon that will trigger the coming tribulation will also motivate the UN to destroy all religion on earth, which of course will reach catastropic proportions, that may employ nuclear weapons Matthew 24: 22.
When that occurs then divine intervention will trigger the coming war of Armageddon and execute judgement upon the entire system of things on earth.
JT
February 25th, 2007 at 2:08 am
Thank you for answering in such detail.

Interesting.
Ronald Fleming
February 25th, 2007 at 11:06 am
“The scarlet coloured wild beast stems from the seventh “HORN”,,,should read seventh “HEAD.” Sorry about the error!
Ronald Fleming
February 25th, 2007 at 11:24 am
Another interesting note to take in consideration is my last sentence in post # 121;…”and execute judgement upon the entire system of things on earth.”
Many scholars have concluded that this will be God’s judgement day, but its not. It is his judgement upon the wicked people on earth today only.
His judgement could not be on the countless individuals who have died through the centuries before us, because that would contradict his statement in Romans 6: 23a “For the wages sin pays is death,” in other words a person can be aquitted of his deeds during his lifetime when he dies. (he has already paid the ultimate price).
The judgement day will occur after Armageddon and during, or after the promised resurrection.
Mikec1
March 10th, 2007 at 3:14 am
Had a bad dream, woke up and did a search and found this site. In my dream, the world is destroyed by a giant wind that came suddenly. It was stronger than hurricanes and blew everything away up into the sky. I have found no other references to such a specific prophesy. When this happens is it the first sign of tribulation?
I can imagine that the ones who survive will be Weeping, gnashing teeth, rending garments, blood in the streets, etc.
ble
April 10th, 2007 at 3:03 am
I agree with the idea that this world will end. We this time from the sign we see in the world famin,war,natural disasters,etc…the real time is coming but we do not the time.This is christian prespective which i agree.

Do you think the image of the world will continue by this bad situation,no if there is a vote for the end time above 80% of the people in the world would give their vote for the coming of the end.
Warriorette.4.The.Lord
April 19th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Let me tell you this. The Antichrist=REAL, Tribulation=REAL, Heaven=REAL, Hell=REAL, GOD=REAL, Jesus=REAL, Lucifer=REAL…etc, etc, it’s all REAL.

We are livng in Revalations right now!!! This stuff is going on now. No one should take from or add anything to the bible as Revelations states…If you believe, then believe!! If you don’t then don’t. You will eventually find out the truth (smirk) No one knows exactly when the rapture will take place…People will still be left on earth during the tribulation and God is going to reveal things to the world and some of the people left will come to the Lord…and make it in after the FINAL judgement, the others will continue to follow the False Profit and the Antichrist (the children of the devil) The Anti- christ is alive now. He is in hiding. When Revalations say the devil will be relaeased, it’s when false profet and Antichrist are revealed. He will not be revealed until a law is passed that will allow the mark to be placed on people. His words will be powerful, he can control everything even the weather, and thats why people will believe he is God…the government can control and steer hurricanes right now!! By electro waves in the water… Katrina was planned!! Thats why they didn’t do anything!! Have you all heard of the “Wildlands Project”?? Google it…you’ll see what I mean…They use hurricanes to map out the US for the Wildlands project which will be the takeover of part of the US and the Natural resources. It will give Europe power over the US and the Antichrist will unite Europe (The United states of Europe) and the world will be under one “Rule” = (Ruler) Jesus will return to earth because the people who follow the Antichrist are going to be obssessed with making themselves a “perfect world” destroying anything and anyone who stands in way of their what seems to be good but truly evil ways and plan to Overthrow the REAL God and see this Satantic man as “A God”, the world will be in Kahoots!!! The Antichrist will look Androgenous…and he will say I am man or woman…I “AM”…and all of his fake powers will be wonderous to his foolish followers BUT no match for God. And Satan will be angry and try to fight even though he knows he will lose. He wants to turn as many people as he can from God so that he can feel he’s won and takes all those people to hell with him. The Road to heaven is thin, and the road to hell is wide…More people will be going to hell in the end than people who will walk and reign with Christ FOREVER in heaven! God Bless
Andy Horning
April 28th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Are we so sure that Jacob Bernoulli’s comet did not blow up over Tunguska?
He may have been right to a degree.
John
July 9th, 2007 at 10:06 am
I remember hearing that you know you are worshipping a self-made god when he hates all the same people you do.
If marriage is a sacred instrument then why is it tied to financial institutions like credit cards, social security, medicare, etc?
Unless money is the real ’sacred body’ that is being sought after anyways. ZING!
Michael (not the archangel)
July 21st, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Some of you sound like you’re about 18 and just took your first philosophy course, after which you are intent on using it to anger your parents who made you go to church.

The only fact we have is that we don’t know what’s going to happen. Why don’t we just wait and see what happens? I’ll bring a bottle of wine.
Cecil
September 27th, 2007 at 10:56 am
As long as mankind continues to live in a fantasy land,
I’m afraid there is not much hope. Heaven and Hell are
figments of imagination. Only man would be so delusional
as to place his very existence on old books and scrolls
that were written by superstitious , intelligence challenged
religious zealots. While mankind should be all about saving
mankind , instead , it’s all about preparing for the afterlife,
which there is absolutely no proof that it even exists.
Maybe we deserve to go extinct , like the dinosaurs.
the lord
December 19th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Hey guys just a though……since we already know what is going to happen you know first comes this than comes that. Why don’t we just do the opposite I mean are we really that dumb or are some people just smarter than us and are manipulating things a cretin way?
Or we could just you know do thing out of order just to piss god off, because he did his plan and yeah sure we don’t know the date but he gave us some clues of when it was coming, so all im saying is if you can avoid a traffic jam using GPS why wont you?

Just my 2 cents
Dan
January 28th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
There is nothing but one however in oneness we are unable to exist on this dualistic plane. Truth is impersonal where as beliefs are personal and half truths. Your own personal beliefs whatever they may be will not get you to heaven only the ability to reconcile the heart with the mind will allow you to survive the coming end on 12 21 2012. This survival is completely up to you. The coming quantum leap will force you to either become one or start over. There is no hell life is perpetual our spirits cannot die but they can refusee to accept the gift of god. All are called but few are chosen. Can you drop your guilt at the door? I only hope that some will look beyond knowledge and beyond feeling into themselves and seek truth for truths sake because in the end thats all there is this materialistic age of kali will end and that is truth it takes more than the bible to free your soul. Unknown and not foretold live a life left unsold trade it all for fame and gold just to pay at the grave. A bit of a song I wrote and my inability to sell myself keeps me from fame and gold. Ascension is all thats worth seeking.
design
September 25th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Islamic view mentioned in the article is incorrect.. also, read in the comments that the Christianity view is not correct either.
Riley
March 1st, 2009 at 10:07 am
Armageddon the day of judgement is immanent. It is the day one dies. Judgement is based on suffering, caused or alleviated specifically in ones own life.

The great prophets/buddhas could see into the future, they could see future technology and weapons and had no clue what they were seeing.

Imagine living in the stone age and seeing today’s wars, what would you call it?
Emdane025
June 15th, 2009 at 12:13 am
walang kwenta!!!!!!!!!!
Mark H. B.
June 26th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Pretty strange.. stumbled upon this site:

http://whenistheworldgoingtoend.blogspot.com

And then completely by random was linked to this article. I think it’s a sign!

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