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Cola, "There has been no proposal to unite the world under one government."
Actually:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWeOa-FuyM
money quote at 2:00.
Enjoy a fresh taste of reality.
Actually:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWeOa-FuyM
money quote at 2:00.
Enjoy a fresh taste of reality.
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Food for thought:
1. do you force abortions on those who become pregnant with one too many? Do you fine them? Do these unwanted kids become socially stigmatized?
2. Europe's 'indigenous' population is already committing demographic suicide - less 'europeans' are born than are dying every year. The most popular newborn name in many of Europe's and England's major cities is Mohammed, in one iteration or another. What's that continent going to look like in a couple generations? What does it mean for it's (and our) traditional liberal values?
Meanwhile, Japan is freaking out over its demographic suicide as well. They are facing the import of millions of foreign workers or face economic collapse. Either way, Japan, its people and its culture as we know is in its twilight, and many think it can't pull out of its nose dive either.
3. there is an underlying racism to the pop-control agenda - America's population is not exploding (though not as low as Europe's replacement levels). So we're really talking about controlling the populations of Latin America, Arabia, Africa, parts of Asia. How do we force the populations of other countries to limit pregnancies? Is Indonesia, for instance, likely to follow "our" rules? Probably not. Do we pressure them in some fashion? Wouldn't that be imperialistic, not to mention racist, somehow?
Finally, doesn't any of this pop-control talk smack of totalitarianism to any of you?
Btw, China, despite their talk, is in the process of reversing its one child policy:
"Experts have warned that China is steadily moving toward a demographic crisis with too many old people in need of expensive services and too few young workers paying taxes to meet those bills. " - NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/world/asia/29china.html) as they face their own demographic nightmare.
1. do you force abortions on those who become pregnant with one too many? Do you fine them? Do these unwanted kids become socially stigmatized?
2. Europe's 'indigenous' population is already committing demographic suicide - less 'europeans' are born than are dying every year. The most popular newborn name in many of Europe's and England's major cities is Mohammed, in one iteration or another. What's that continent going to look like in a couple generations? What does it mean for it's (and our) traditional liberal values?
Meanwhile, Japan is freaking out over its demographic suicide as well. They are facing the import of millions of foreign workers or face economic collapse. Either way, Japan, its people and its culture as we know is in its twilight, and many think it can't pull out of its nose dive either.
3. there is an underlying racism to the pop-control agenda - America's population is not exploding (though not as low as Europe's replacement levels). So we're really talking about controlling the populations of Latin America, Arabia, Africa, parts of Asia. How do we force the populations of other countries to limit pregnancies? Is Indonesia, for instance, likely to follow "our" rules? Probably not. Do we pressure them in some fashion? Wouldn't that be imperialistic, not to mention racist, somehow?
Finally, doesn't any of this pop-control talk smack of totalitarianism to any of you?
Btw, China, despite their talk, is in the process of reversing its one child policy:
"Experts have warned that China is steadily moving toward a demographic crisis with too many old people in need of expensive services and too few young workers paying taxes to meet those bills. " - NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/world/asia/29china.html) as they face their own demographic nightmare.
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Bush did it. I think he also makes the armpits of my t-shirts turn yellow. Damn his diabolical schemes.
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http://www.optimumpopulation.org/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/25/alex-renton-population-control-climate-change
http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=2314438
There's a good chance this thinking will slither away as it did after the 70's, but the outcome is never certain and it's still shocking how stupid ideas like this can take hold of seemingly intelligent people.
Anyway, toodaloo - I'm off to buy more tinfoil.