Fin's Comments
@Gauldar
I was actually specifically talking about Alex's post and the opinions below it. Neatorama does actually have a responsibility toward what is and is not posted on the site, but my specific issue is with Alex and a lot of the people commenting who don't seem to find anything wrong with making fun of people who are just being themselves because (and this may be paraphrasing) "they know we're going to laugh and they do it anyway, so they must be okay with us laughing." That's similar to saying it's okay to bully that weirdo at school because he knows he's a weirdo and he continues to be weird.
Why do I not quote people directly more? Simple. They've already been quoted. The posts are linked to and there for all to see. And with my limited amount of time at home during the week, I simply do not have the time to have a proper debate.
I'm not calling for censorship. And I know plenty about GLBT. I'm calling for human consideration. I am saying that I am offended and I am saying that the othering of a group I am very close to is what is offending me. I do not have to defend this feeling. That is not my job.
I apologize for singling out neatorama as a whole, but I will single out Alex. I would also single out several people commenting if I had time to go back and retrieve all of their names and if I thought it would do any good. Seriously? This post is even an exercise in futility.
@OhYes
Othering is a word. Even if it weren't, your statement that it would be "far more offensive" is actually offensive. I don't see how making up a word in order to talk about an issue is more offensive than belittling an entire group of people. Belittling is a word too. Look it up.
Judgement isn't a word, btw. I think you're looking for judgment. If you really want to argue about word choice, I think I'm allowed to argue about spelling.
I won't even comment on your second paragraph. Why? Because you're right. There are more productive things I can be doing than arguing with bullies and trolls on the internet. Have fun being ignorant!
I was actually specifically talking about Alex's post and the opinions below it. Neatorama does actually have a responsibility toward what is and is not posted on the site, but my specific issue is with Alex and a lot of the people commenting who don't seem to find anything wrong with making fun of people who are just being themselves because (and this may be paraphrasing) "they know we're going to laugh and they do it anyway, so they must be okay with us laughing." That's similar to saying it's okay to bully that weirdo at school because he knows he's a weirdo and he continues to be weird.
Why do I not quote people directly more? Simple. They've already been quoted. The posts are linked to and there for all to see. And with my limited amount of time at home during the week, I simply do not have the time to have a proper debate.
I'm not calling for censorship. And I know plenty about GLBT. I'm calling for human consideration. I am saying that I am offended and I am saying that the othering of a group I am very close to is what is offending me. I do not have to defend this feeling. That is not my job.
I apologize for singling out neatorama as a whole, but I will single out Alex. I would also single out several people commenting if I had time to go back and retrieve all of their names and if I thought it would do any good. Seriously? This post is even an exercise in futility.
@OhYes
Othering is a word. Even if it weren't, your statement that it would be "far more offensive" is actually offensive. I don't see how making up a word in order to talk about an issue is more offensive than belittling an entire group of people. Belittling is a word too. Look it up.
Judgement isn't a word, btw. I think you're looking for judgment. If you really want to argue about word choice, I think I'm allowed to argue about spelling.
I won't even comment on your second paragraph. Why? Because you're right. There are more productive things I can be doing than arguing with bullies and trolls on the internet. Have fun being ignorant!
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Listen, this issue isn't about using the word "weird" OR the word "ugly." It's about othering a group of people whose gender presentation doesn't fit into society's mold and are, therefore, a highly marginalized group of people. People with non-traditional gender presentation are heavily discriminated against and abused for being who they are. That abuse includes othering, which basically means that someone says "Hey, look at these freaks who aren't like us. Aren't those freaks funny?" That attitude makes it easier for others to discriminate against, laugh at, misunderstand, hate, and physically harm them because they see that society (which this site is a part of) sees transgender people as somehow less than human.
The attitude exhibited here makes it clear that neatorama is okay with ridiculing a group of people who already have it bad by posing them as something to be laughed at. Way to go! You failed at being interesting and turned to cheap humor at the expense of others!
The attitude exhibited here makes it clear that neatorama is okay with ridiculing a group of people who already have it bad by posing them as something to be laughed at. Way to go! You failed at being interesting and turned to cheap humor at the expense of others!
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The word choice conversation was not to Guildar. It was to OhYes.
The debate is actually more about compassion toward our fellow human beings. Not about word choice. Something the Bible has several verses about. Read it again.