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Concerning Cahokia;

I'm a PhD candidate in archaeology, so I while probably have my head up my butt, it might be a little less than the author.

We know a lot about the group occupying that area, there are known as Mississippians and Cahokia is one of a large number of sites known to have been inhabited by these folks. Aztalan is likely the northern extent of the group in Wisconsin and the sites reach at least as far as Moundville Alabama.

Maize/corn (imported from Mexico orginally) was the basis of nutrition for this culture and it was this energy rich abundant food that created surpluses needed to support full time mound builders and artisans. It's also their downfall since maize doesn't carry the same nutrition as a mixed diet of gathered foods and wild game. There is a set of clear indicators in skeletal remains including caries in teeth and a higher incidence of rickets and other diseases related to malnutrition.

As for all the skeletons in the mound. What isn't mentioned is that they are grouped around a central figure that has nicer stuff than anyone else. Sound familiar at all? Yeah, these individuals were to accompany him into the next life as some sort of attendants. Pretty common stuff in the historical record.

If you want a bit more mystery and smaller but amazingly cool mounds, look at the Effigy Mounds built by the "Ft. Ancient" culture. Or the Hopewell group centered out of Chilicothe Ohio. (Shout out to my Buckeyes from Michigan!) The interesting thing there is that they DON'T have a easy food source but had advanced crafting, mounds that accurately predict long term astronomical observations, and it's beginning to look like there is some interesting math encoded into the mounds. And how did they get all those exotic materials into Ohio from as far away as the UP of Michigan, Wyoming, and the East and Gulf Coasts? At a time of increasing warfare? And most importantly, what were they trading for the material? There's nothing from Ohio found in any of the artifact records of those areas.

So yeah, there's some weird stuff out there. But it isn't either of these places. And there's no aliens, sorry. Humans are capable of all sorts of amazing things all on our own, thank you very much.

Thanks for the other debunk Coyote!
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I love the guy flipping off the camera just past the pink tank girl. I'd file that under "things I wish I hadn't done now that the whole world can see".

Its a surprisingly long list personally...
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three MILLION jobs depend on the auto industry, either directly or indirectly. fire the management, no bonuses. bring in people that know how to run a company (Lee Iaccoca where are you!?).

just throwing that many people out of work would give you some interesting economic times....
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