Despite many attempts, I couldn't get sober on my own, and other programs that I tried didn't work for me (rational recovery, smart recovery, counseling, etc.). I honestly didn't think AA would work either, mainly because I was a hardcore agnostic. However, I was desperate enough to give it an honest try, so I got a sponsor and worked the steps, and it's worked 100% for me ever since (2+ years).
Since AA believes in attraction, rather than promotion, the onus to demonstrate its effectiveness is not on AA as an organization. If individual members want to espouse its effectiveness, that's up to them.
I don't really care to spend my time in debate and negativity, so I'm really not here to sell somebody on something they don't want anyway. If you've got doubts about AA being anything less than an altruistic movement, show up at any open meeting (you don't have to be alcoholic to attend) and decide for yourself.
Despite many attempts, I couldn't get sober on my own, and other programs that I tried didn't work for me (rational recovery, smart recovery, counseling, etc.). I honestly didn't think AA would work either, mainly because I was a hardcore agnostic. However, I was desperate enough to give it an honest try, so I got a sponsor and worked the steps, and it's worked 100% for me ever since (2+ years).
Since AA believes in attraction, rather than promotion, the onus to demonstrate its effectiveness is not on AA as an organization. If individual members want to espouse its effectiveness, that's up to them.
I don't really care to spend my time in debate and negativity, so I'm really not here to sell somebody on something they don't want anyway. If you've got doubts about AA being anything less than an altruistic movement, show up at any open meeting (you don't have to be alcoholic to attend) and decide for yourself.
Since AA believes in attraction, rather than promotion, the onus to demonstrate its effectiveness is not on AA as an organization. If individual members want to espouse its effectiveness, that's up to them.
I don't really care to spend my time in debate and negativity, so I'm really not here to sell somebody on something they don't want anyway. If you've got doubts about AA being anything less than an altruistic movement, show up at any open meeting (you don't have to be alcoholic to attend) and decide for yourself.
(rational recovery, smart recovery, counseling, etc.). I honestly didn't think AA would work either, mainly because I was a hardcore agnostic. However, I was desperate enough to give it an honest try, so I got a sponsor and worked the steps, and it's worked 100% for me ever since (2+ years).
Since AA believes in attraction, rather than promotion, the onus to demonstrate its effectiveness is not on AA as an organization. If individual members want to espouse its effectiveness, that's up to them.
I don't really care to spend my time in debate and negativity, so I'm really not here to sell somebody on something they don't want anyway. If you've got doubts about AA being anything less than an altruistic movement, show up at any open meeting (you don't have to be alcoholic to attend) and decide for yourself.