Proposal: Give College Students the Power to Fire Professors

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During the Fifth Century B.C., Athenians engaged in the usual practice of ostracism. Once a year, they took a popular vote. The person with the most votes was banished from the city. Ideally, this would remove the most hated person in the city.

2,500 years later, State Senator Mark Chelgren of Iowa has a proposal that’s strikingly similar. He thinks that some professors at state universities are incompetent. But because of tenure regulations, they get to keep their jobs for life. Chelgren has introduced a bill into the state legislature that would reduce these bad teachers by empowering students to fire a single professor every year.

The process begins with the end-of-semester student evaluations. The Chronicle of Higher Education explains:

The names of the five professors with the lowest ratings above the minimum threshold would be published online. Students would then vote on those professors’ future employment — and the professor with the fewest votes would be fired, regardless of tenure status or contract terms.

Should college students have the power to fire professors in this manner?




I had a tenured professor in college that was so bad there were petitions circulating to have her fired -and it still didn't matter. I wish we had something like this.
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Interesting observation - if you ask people to rate the service on a scale of 1 to 5, there are some who think the service was fine, and give a 5. There are others who think it was good and give a 4, to leave space for a 5 if it were better next time. Engineers fall into the latter category (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C4rrhbs-eA0#t=5060 ). If that same pattern holds for this plan, it's more likely that technical professors will be ostracized.

In any case, it's stupid idea. It's a zero-tolerance approach that rejects the idea of rehabilitation, and places the responsibility only on the professor. If a teacher is so bad, then the administration is doing a poor job by letting the teacher still teach. Why can't students fire the dean, or the college president, for doing a poor job? There's no reason to have a horrible professor teach a course, even if tenured. College professors also get very little training in how to teach; why aren't these evaluations used to give more professional teacher training?

It would suck to be a teacher at a small college. There's about a 3x higher chance of being fired from the University of Northern Iowa as from Iowa State. And of course this gives more incentive to hire adjunct professors to teach, and leave research and other non-teaching positions for the regular staff.

And finally, if the ostracism were based in illegal discrimination - perhaps students who think a female teacher who is "too bossy" or dislike a Muslim teacher for being "too foreign" - then the school will be liable for the anti-discrimination lawsuit.
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If the professor is bad enough at teaching, I've seen the departments exercise various options to deal with it, even with tenure in place. Older professors were forced into retirement. Some professors can be assigned to be the TA of graduate courses, where basically they do nothing but grade homework. That is usually reserved for new faculty, but someone on tenure who has been doing badly and doesn't get raises/COLA will end up making much less than new faculty anyway. If the professor is good enough at research, they might just not be asked to teach at all. A lot of "professors" at universities these days are just instructors with annual contracts that can be not renewed, and they seem to be more and more to be teaching the important intro courses.

Anyway, while I think even more can be done to deal with professors that are bad at teaching, this idea here reminds me of some of the management strategies that involved dumping X number of employees with the worst reviews on some regular basis, and I thought that didn't go over well. Also, in my experience, a lot of students can't distinguish bad teaching from difficult subjects that require effort to learn, and occasionally have problems with things outside the professor's control (certain department decisions affecting curriculum). A process like this seems like it would be really biased toward large, required courses, with certain topics being potentially dangerous.
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It's a good idea to ALLOW students to fire particularly bad teachers, but the bar has to be pretty high, and it certainly shouldn't REQUIRE forcing out one teacher every year... First that will mean good teachers might get fired. Second, it will encourage bad teachers to just avoid being the very worst each year, nothing more.
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+1 @Andrew

Another problem would be teachers working to appease students. I would imagine no teacher would grade a student lower than a B for fear of getting voted down by vindictive students. This proposal would have the opposite effect. It incentivizes lazy students to keep on being lazy, as they have a big stick to punish teachers who have the temerity to give them a D for not attending a single class.

No, this proposal is just ludicrous. There must be some other way to fire/fix bad professors with tenure. Maybe they should be given less classes to teach, perhaps a single graduate-level elective class on his/her specialization. Then just make them earn their keep by getting research grants.
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The legislation is trying to deal with a real problem, but I think most people will agree this isn't the best way to handle it. Maybe the news story will inspire universities to think of more ways to handle the issue.
I'd like to see something like: a blind vote by students, the bottom 1% of professors have to attend mandatory teaching training and audit a course from a better-ranked professor.
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