"Descent From Antiquity" - Genetic Trivia, or a Profound Truth?



A seventh-grader in California has collaborated with her grandfather to produce a genealogical chart demonstrating that Barack Obama is related to all previous United States presidents (except for Martin Van Buren).  This happens because Obama and the other presidents have family trees that can be traced back to John "Lackland" Plantagenet, King of England at the beginning of the 13th century.

Van Buren (who incidentally was the first U.S. president to be born in the United States) is excluded from the group because his ancestors were Dutch rather than English.

This young lady's accomplishment is remarkable in terms of the scholarship and genealogical research involved, but whether the result is important depends on one's view of the "descent from antiquity" concept, which has been used to demonstrate that immense groups of persons living today are descended from Genghis Khan, Charlemagne, Marie Antoinette, and other historical figures.  A diagram at Wolfram Alpha demonstrates the genetic distance between tenth cousins; from that viewpoint such "relationships" are genetically trivial.  A Neatorama post last year discussed the relationship of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Brangelina.  The most scholarly compilation in this regard is probably Mark Humphrys' "Royal Descents of Famous People."

The other point of view, of course, is that our relationship with all other humanity is not trivial, but rather a principle that should guide everything from personal ethics to foreign policy.  An article in The Atlantic discussed this concept of "everyone" being related to "everyone else" and noted that it carried another implication:
The same process works going forward in time; in essence every one of us who has children and whose line does not go extinct is suspended at the center of an immense genetic hourglass. Just as we are descended from most of the people alive on the planet a few thousand years ago, several thousand years hence each of us will be an ancestor of the entire human race—or of no one at all.

Story via Reddit.  Photo credits: Wikimedia Commons

there is one thing that has bothered me about genealogy/ family trees. There are so many tpeople that came together to form a family and or descended from a common ancestor. Knowing that people still like to focus on the one individual that was different.
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Consider this:

On average, 10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father.

In other words, going back further than 10 generations means that it is more probable that you are NOT related to the ancestor, with increasing probability, the further you go...
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Not really ironic at all. The Prominent Citizens of the english colonies were peppered liberally with cadet branches of the British ruling class. In time the colonial upper crust became the early U.S. upper crust, which has proven to be about as stable as that of most societies.
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Follow all the branches in between you'll probably find yourself in Hitler's mother's womb as well. Follow a few others and you'll probably find Ted Bundy and Josef Stalin too. Go back far enough and everyone's a monkey's uncle. Booya!
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I knew it I knew it!!! - Y'all are distant cuzzez of mine!!! - We're all related and that's why we all feel so comfy cozy around here.

...Oh Darn I'm Dutch so that doesn't fly for me if you all are English...... Well in that case surely Van Buren must be family of mine in some way or form.

... Oh wait if we go back even futher, some of my anscestors went to England in the time of the Daneland so I still must have lots of relatives over Yonder and then indirectly also in the America's (apart from the confirmed members that went there during the late 1890's and early 1900's and just after WW2...).

And if we go back even before that, undoubtedly during the time of the Great Migrations there must have been common anscestors.

And even before that during the days of Cro Magnon or befor that during Australopithecus-Days..........

:lol: Hello there Exended Family!!!! :lol:
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"On average, 10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father."

Sperm Wars, Robin Baker

"Consider this: on average, 90% of unsourced statistics are made up."

Defensive?
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I have never understood the pride people take in finding out an ancestor was famous or was a passenger on the Mayflower. We can't take the blame or get the credit for the actions of those who preceded us.

Zeytoun, 10% sounds way too high. It implies that most women are cheating on their husbands since not every liason leads to pregnancy.
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