Remembering the Victims of 9/11

Wow. What to say? It and its consequences have changed the world.

Co-incidentally I have been told I should see ZERO di Giulietto Chiesa. Anyone know what it is like or about?

What a tragic day that was :(

Thanks for posting this, Alex. It's a painful memory, but one that should never be forgotten.

--TwoDragons

May they rest in peace forever.

I had presumed by the lack of comments that it was being treated as a text version of a minutes silence.

removes hat, remembers the dead.

May everyone today shed a tear and spare a thought for the victims and the people left behind on this fateful day. May everyone honour the very brave service men who lost their lives trying to save others xxxxx R.I.P xxxxx

There's an entirely different set of comments after the "more" link.

More innocent people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq than were killed in the attacks on the US on 9/11. Will those people be remembered? I doubt it.

nope nor will the Iranian airlines that was shot down by an American missile and they have refused to apologize so far

when it comes to non-American or "enemies" its okay that they were murdered

I was at ground zero today. It was pretty depressing.

I've been out of town. Did I miss something?

I doubt it means much to anyone outside the USA other than an inconvenience to their travel forever more. Sadly I fear that that and the laughable war on terror are going to be the lasting memories from the event, not the thousands who lost their lives.

Or perhaps people were just too busy thinking the world would disappear into a black hole on the 10th of Sept to notice what happened when it didn't.

Ratz

that must be the most singularly dense fecking thing I have ever seen posted anything on Neatorama.

You actually believe that the murders of nearly three thousand people from nearly every country in the world means NOTHING to ...well the REST OF THE WORLD?

Your self pity adn Emo "Woe is me they don't understand" bull sh*t is both a humiliation to you, and an affront to to, well basically everyone who is NOT YOU.

Regardless of the subsequent war, regardless of the lack of any discernible connection between the two, regardless the dead on both sides of that debacle.... I can not concieve of a a single human soul that did not , to quote Kenobi, Cry out at once.

Here's the thiong.

And actiually listen.

When there is a terrorist attack, THAT is the moment for calm.

It is what defines a leader rather than an elected official.

To strike out in anger and to suspend your own laws m,akes you the same as the terrorist.

you can have no higher ground when you are in the pit with them.

Trust me, I grew up through the IRA's campaign, also the reasdon I find the US's stance on funding terrorists risible, as the US bank rolled the IRA for 35 years...So is it ok to bomb women and children when they don't live in New York?

But When a govt suspends the law.... very bad things follow.

N.Ireland was proof of that.

For every diploc court made a new recruit, every raid and body search of a mother made the son swear vengance, every indignity suffered made resolve harden.

I am just trying to draw a crrellation between the suspension of rights and of law and the exacerbation of the situation.

I wish all of you USAmericans my best, I hope you restore your constitution, bill of rights and democracy. Find peace and diplomacy to work beter for you than war, and care for those broken on 911.

Universal health care.

"To strike out in anger and to suspend your own laws m,akes you the same as the terrorist."

Was going to edit that.....

An act of vengeance is an act of terror, to be better than your enemy you must rise above.

When the US Army rolled into the concentration camps in world war 2, they didn't decide to just string them up and burn do-nuts in their Willys Jeeps.

No the rules of law both martial and civil were applied.

It marked out the US as not just the victors, but the MORAL victors, who rose above the mire and distinguished themselves and their country in theor conduct.

Ah.... I suppose I have some very rarified ideas regarding the USA.

In my book any place that Thomas Pane held in such regard has to be doing something right.

Raises cup of tea in salute to the USA,

raises small glass of Jameson's in memory of the dead of September the eleventh.

7 years. I can't believe so much time passed. It feels like yesterday.

I find it very interesting, and very appropriate that "Talk Like A Pirate Day" comes directly after 9/11...

God rest their souls. I mourn and respect the events that have happened to our country.

:-(
We saw the entire scene from our office......

Unfortunately, someone was celebrating their birthday.

They can now never have a totally happy birthday because the term 9/11 is so associated with this

Tell em "Happy Birthday!"

yeah boring....

I took a hike with my new baby. It was gorgeous.

Seeing that list of names hurts.

I was serving as an LDS missionary at the time in Northern Virginia. Another missionary told me on my way into my apartment (coming home from a meeting) that we were at war and the pentagon had been destroyed and New York had been bombed.

I didn't believe him as I was cooking my lunch until the phone rang. It was at that moment I realized something was going on. We let it go to voicemail and it was the mission office telling us all to stay indoors until they knew what was going on.

Despite the rules against television and even radio, we listened to the radio and eventually went to our neighbors house to watch the coverage on their TV.

Where were you?

P.S. There is a great site here: http://www.legacy.com/Sept11/Home.aspx

It has profiles on every victim.

a pity that all the others (civilians in Iraq/Afganistan, and elsewere..) will never be remembered the same way

Oh wow, I havent seen this list printed in a very long time. Sometimes when we make fun of Giuliani for saying 9/11 every five seconds or we talk with terms like "pre-9/11" etc it kind of makes us forget what actually happened. Seeing this list is really a bit of a startling reminder of the emotions and true cost of that morning.

What Really Happened?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/category/911

Not to downplay this, but that same day about 8 times as many human beings died from hunger and poverty.

We just don't know their names.

"Not to downplay this, but that same day about 8 times as many human beings died from hunger and poverty.

We just don’t know their names."

And we just don't give a shit either...

Glen, you are an asshole! Go throw your conspiracy theories elsewhere!

I was an Army Reservist in my last year of college in a marketing class when the professor stated we would have class as usual. I had no idea what was going on but something about the mood of the class was different more somber. I then went from class to the student center and watched CNN for almost 2 hours unable to really process the horror of it. That night I packed my gear in anticipation of what was going to happen...I was deployed that January...I still think about that day and how our lives had changed.

Wow, seeing the long list of names brings tears to my eyes still. In answer to the question asked - "where were you":

I was at an airport in Columbus, Ohio. I had taken my parents to Columbus because my mom had cancer and wanted to see the specialists in her home town. I was leaving her there to go back home to Joplin, MO. As soon as we got through security at the airport, we saw the televisions come on. It was totally surreal and I'm not sure I understood what was happening. It was absolutely shocking. For the next 7 days I tried to get home to my boyfriend (now husband) by any means possible. The buses were full or just not running, as was Amtrak. I spent hours and hours on hold with anyone that I thought could get me home. I remember talking to my mom on the phone and crying as I watched the TV, saying "mom, I just want to go home," and she just said "I know." When I finally got a plane, it had to be re-routed because of a bomb scare in Chicago. Little did I know that 3 weeks later my mom really would go "home" and I'd be back on a plane for a funeral.

Matt's right, Glen. Despite your diluted concept of what occurred on September 11, all those people actually died, and those buildings actually collapsed. Everyone knows Bush and co. are inept failures, and we don't need conspiracy theories to prove it.

Orjan Morjan is also right, however. More people die from starvation, illness, poverty, etc. every day. And more Americans have died in Iraq since the war began. 9/11 hit very close to home, but Americans losing their lives halfway across the globe doesn't seem to sting quite as much for some reason.

http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

I was at home that day. When I turned on the TV and saw pictures of the first plane going into the tower my first thought was the pilot must have had a heart attack. But then, when there was a second plane I remember feeling sick because it was obvious we were being attacked. No matter how you feel about 911, I hope you will remember the victims who were just ordinary people like us. Please say a little prayer for the families. I'm sure they are still deeply hurting and need prayers for strength to go on without their loved one.

What was very sad for me this morning was my local newspaper had NOTHING noting the day. not even an AP or CP story on today. I remember i was in homeroom in 9th grade when it happened. that day will forever be ingrained in my memory even though i didn't know anyone who was personally affected. Sure i live in Canada, but when America gets hurt the rest of the world does too.

The blogger's opening to this thread recommends that we "remember" the listed victims. How can we "remember" people whom we never knew? I suppose that the blogger meant, "think about" them.

But just "remembering/thinking about" them is not enough. We need to pray for the repose of their souls -- and especially to pray "retroactively" that they repent(ed) of any previously unrepented mortal sins, since such deadly things would keep their souls in hell -- away from entering heaven -- for all eternity. I think especially of people who were engaged in major theft, adultery, fornication (shacking up), pernicious racism, and many other deadly sins.

It was sad to read the inappropriate comments from "polux" and "Orjan Morjan," above.
"Polux" wrote, "a pity that all the others (civilians in Iraq/Afganistan, and elsewere..) will never be remembered the same way".
"Orjan Morjan" wrote, "that same day about 8 times as many human beings died from hunger and poverty. We just don’t know their names."

People like "polux" and "Orjan" don't have mental discipline, so they do not stop to reflect and realize that the (roughly) 3,000 people listed above were DELIBERATELY MURDERED by incredibly EVIL people, out of hatred for America. THAT is why their names are listed at an American Internet site.

The "civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan" whose names could be listed -- on Iraqi and Afghani Internet sites -- are those who have been DELIBERATELY MURDERED by the same kind of EVIL people (Islamofascist fanatics). Other civilians have died, but only accidentally.

The idea that about 24,000 people die daily from hunger is a canard, long ago exposed as a falsehood perpetrated by the "population-control imperialists," who try to fool people into believing the falsehood that the world lacks enough food to support its population. It is true that a large number of people die from hunger, but most of the oft-mentioned 24,000 people die of diseases (especially dysentery). The world has PLENTY of food to feed everyone, but there are areas (especially in Africa) where it is too hard to TRANSPORT the food to the needy, due to governmental corruption and civil war.

Finally, if there are any slain Americans who deserve to be named even MORE than the "9/11/2001" victims, it would be the (roughly) 3,500 innocent, defenseless unborn babies who are murdered EVERY DOGGONE DAY through surgical abortion. Yes, that's right ... So-called "doctors" are hit-men that end the lives of MORE people, every DAY in America, than died on 9/11/2001. May God have mercy on us all for not having ended the slaughter during the 35 years it has dragged on and on!

My thoughts and prayers are with all those who lost loved ones.

Thank you for posting this list. It hurts to read so many. I thought the page would never end.

Also, John Ritter died too a few years ago. :(

::waves a US flag in the victims' memory::

first of all I can't believe some of the posts on here!we are not talking about people that are starving,we are not praying that they made their peace with god before they went and dont even throw john ritter in there with this.
The people that died in those events didn't have any idea they were going to die when they left the house that morning,they were robbed of the chance to say goodbye to the ones they loved.their lives were snuffed because of a coward and the morons that believed what he said.and there lies the problem! the majority of the people in the U.S. are too lazy and self absorbed to give a damn what happens as long as it doesn't affect them.BUT IT AFFECTS US ALL!AND I'M PROUD TO BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT STILL CARES AND REMEMBERS WHAT OUR SOLDIERS ARE FIGHTING FOR! and for those that don't care or for those that this war doesn't affect emotionally, you can go to hell,because i'm an American and I STILL REMEMBER!!!!!!!!!

The 2,996 Project has links to a tribute for each of these people, done by volunteer bloggers two years ago.

http://project2996.com/blog/?page_id=2

I remember I was preparing for class that day. And something made me turn on the news. They were broadcasting after the first hit and they thought the second plane was simply a news copter so they zoomed in no one censored that day the reactions people had when they realized they were wrong. after that day they never aired that same footage or the response the news people had. I wish that the school i had attended at the time was as caring as they purported in their capstones. I was penalzied by my grade being lowered for not going to school that day. And that has made me think very lowly of that college i attended.

I was only 11, and living in the UK we heard about it later in the day. We watched coverage on the TV's in school, and everyone was eerily quiet, especially for a group of 11 year olds in a previously uninteresting history class.

I remember the headline of one of the newspapers the next day, with the simple exclamation "BASTARDS!" above a mid-hit tower photograph. It meant something then, and still does now.

Captain Jason Dahl - flight 93
My cousin's best friend.

Everyone will be greatly missed and I remember 9/11 all too well.
It was the quietest day I can remember. And weird to see no planes in the air.

I'll always remember that day. In Spain it was 3 in the afternoon, and everybody watched it on TV... Outside USA we were thinking that it was happening not so far from us, it was an attack against all the occidental culture. We learned that in march, 11 of 2004, when 192 people died in Madrid by the same fanatic hands.

Dear Laurabee: What a beautiful comment. Bless You!

I was at home, enjoying a day off with my husband and oldest child. I was pregnant with my youngest. We would keep the TV off as much as possible when we were off to make it "quality time" together. My mother in law called us from work and told us to turn on the TV. She didn't tell us a channel, just "turn on the tv, now."
Oh, my, we just stood there, staring. It had been on Headline News, so we saw pictures of the first tower. My hands covered my belly where my daughter was growing and my husband held our son. We just sat there in front of the tv all day. All our plans were on hold.
All we could think was, "The world has moved on." (from Stephen King's The Dark Tower novels)
In a way, it was like the Challenger explosion. We talked about it being a defining moment in history, like the Kennedy assasination.
So yes, my first reaction when I saw the list above was to put my hand on the screen and pray for the people who died and especially their families. I pray that theay have been able to move on. Having lost my parents and other family (before that day), I know they will never "get over it," but I hope they have been able to "move on" with their lives.
My prayers also go out to the people living in hardship and dying of hunger and violence around the world - in the past and today.

I was at home. My father called me - he never calls that early in the morning, so naturally I was worried when I answered the phone. He told me to turn on the TV ...

I was sleeping (Pacific Time). My brother woke me up calling from a bar in Australia and told me to turn on the TV.

I remember for weeks afterwards waking up in the middle of the night thinking about the victims and their family members. I was working at a day care center at the time and the kids would always point out the planes that flew by. Then there were no planes - only quiet. It was a terribly sad time for me to be working with kids. Wondering about their future and how crazy the world had become. I will also remember it as the day we all became NEW YORKERS.

I was supposed to give a presentation in place of my boss that day. About 30 minutes before the presentation, I heard that a bomb had gone off in one of the towers. I went to a lounge where we had a large screen t.v. Lots of employees and visitors were watching the reports. It was then established that a plane had crashed into the tower. I thought that was actually a lot better than a bomb going off...it was just an accident not an act of terrorism. I felt bad for the plane's passengers...but accidents happen. Then the second plane came into view. It was flying low and at an angle. I got pissed off! I thought that the pilot of the second plane was flying close to the first tower to give his passengers and crew a better view of what had happened. I was seriously pissed of at the pilot. I couldn't believe how irresponsible he was. I hoped that the FAA nailed his ass to the wall for such a stupid act. Then...it happened. The second plane crashed into the second tower. Everyone arround me gasped, swore, shouted, etc. That's when I realized that none of this was an accident. The presentation was cancelled. Throughout the day, I watched the events on various t.v. sets at work and on my work PC. A third plane crashed into the Pentagon and a fourth plane crashed. For the next few days I read the papers, watched t.v., etc. I felt quite bad for all of the victims but also happy for those who made it out alive. I felt a special surge of pride in my own country ( CANADA...the true north strong and
free baby! ). We were sending help in various ways and lots of Canadian Emergency Services personnel were crossing the border to provide help in NYC. All non military/government planes were banned over the skies of the US...planes en route to the US on 9/11 had to land in Gander Newfoundland. Thousands of people from all over the world were stranded in Gander. The ordinary people of Gander were taking complete strangers into their homes, feeding them, giving them places to sleep, etc., etc., etc. In the following days, things settled down a bit. We all got on with our lives. I occasionally wonder what I would have done or what would have happened to me had I been in one of those planes/buildings that day.

just watch zeitgeist.com the truth is there...

7 years have gone by, and it is clear the sting of that day is gone. While it seems that most people still get it, each year, there are more and more people that come out of the woodwork that think its ok to somehow belittle the day, throw out conspiracy theories, use the day to bash Bush, use the day to advance their own political agenda. Some of those people have clearly posted on this board.

Let us not forget the outrage of that day. Let us not forget if these same people said these same words on that day, that we hear right now on this board, being tarred and feathered would be the least of their concerns.

This day is not about partisan politics or advancing some agenda. This is not about drawing some parallels between Americans going to work getting slaughtered for being American, and some people starving overseas due to their own corrupt gov't that is somehow our fault.

We did not cause 9-11, unless you consider being American and living the American way of life by simply going to work a just cause for murder. Those who blame America, are the same ones that blame our way of life and wish to change it to suit their means.

We did not start this war, we as a nation were dragged into it. The war was started with our nation on 9-11. We can, and we will win it. We will only lose the war if we lose our resolve.

Do not underestimate the seriousness of the war, or the importance of the result on mankind. This is a classic example of good vs. evil. We, along with the world, will be judged by the outcome. Ducking and running, ignoring the threat, pretending everything is ok, ignoring the obvious, will only invite more and more repeat occurences, on our soil, against us.

It will continue, until we finally have the resolve to say enough and say, in one collective voice, we will not allow our nation to live in fear of the people who hate us.

Never forget the pain of 9-11. Think for a moment the outrage you felt on that day as you saw a couple of buildings in an American city crash and burn with your fellow countrymen in it. Always remember how violated you felt that day. Teach what that day meant to your children. Let our nation not forget the lesson.

American blood spilled out on the streets that day and if we forget the day, or abandon the cause, they will have died for nothing. When we say that we will always remember 9-11, it is not only about the individuals that died that day, it is also about what we need to do about it so that it is never repeated.

Although I cannot pretend to understand how the families of those victims feel, my heart breaks for each of them. May they find peace.

I was at my parents staying in their guesthouse when my mom came in and woke me up. Its very out of character for my mom to bother me and wake me up, So I knew it was something bad. My brother had just died very shortly prior (heart problem) , and I remember feeling very emotionally drained. "Ok fates-that-be... pile it on!"

I was driving to work outside of Chicago and heard reports on the radio. I thought it was a morning DJ joke. I turned on the news radio station and they were talking about it too. I drove past my mom's neighborhood and decided to turn back around and go to her house. I walked in and turned on the TV just in time to see the second plane hit live. I sat there in shock, my hands shaking.

It was the first time in my life, at 21, that I felt a global sense of fear. I couldn't imagine what was going to happen next and spent the rest of the day monitoring several news websites on the internet, refreshing every few minutes.

Every time I hear those chilling 911 tapes or see footage of the World Trade Center on 9/11 I can feel the same fear I did that day. I will remember it for the rest of my life.

Was it tragic? Yes, of course.

But what is it that makes 3,000 who died in a single, dramatic moment more tragic than 3,000 who died in their own, small, unnoticeable tragedies?

Are deaths of American citizens more tragic than deaths of foreigners? If they are both strangers to us personally, what is the different?

Is innocent death by violence caused by terrorism more tragic than innocent death by violence caused by falling bombs?

Yes, the crime of 9/11/2001 was tragic and unforgiveable. There can be no question. It deserves to be mourned.

But why the annual ritual of mourning for this crime, and for nothing else?

I know that personally, I feel worse about crimes I might have committed than wrongs done to me. If my taxes helped killed an innocent, that weighs more heavily on me than a crime I have no culpability for.

In the last five years, at least 100,000 Iraqis, and maybe up to a million, have died. That represents at least 30 september 11ths.

In the Vietnam War, around 2 million civilians died trying to repel a foreign invader (us) from their country…that’s almost 1,000 september 11ths. Where is their memorial?

Of course, 50,000 GIs died in that war too. They have a bleak memorial in D.C…but, they are largely forgotten.

In Guatemala, 300,000 indigenous peasants were murdered in a cruel and relentelss war throughout the 1980s, while our government funded and armed the murders, knowing their crimes…Who has noone made a list of them for public mourning? Is it because they are so different from us, because we can’t understand their life stories?

Hell, in our own country, 300,000 die every year from smoking..which at least is their own fault. More people probably die every week due to fast food and the junk food we feed our children than died on that day-and I would argue that years of incapacity and misery followed by death is much worse than sudden death. Between 30,000 - 100,000 die from side effects of prescription drugs. Where is their memorial? Vioxx alone killed more than 20,000 people - after studied showed that it was potentially lethal. That’s more than six september 11ths. The executives in the company knew about the study and buried it. Why is there not a similar national outrage calling for their heads, calling for them to be drawn and quartered? We know who the criminal are in that case, we know their crime. Yet they still live in mansions and own private jets, and enjoy all the fruits of wealth and liberty.

I am not criticizing anyone for mourning the 9/11 attacks - especially if you had a relative or friend who died in it. But this ritual of mourning every year for something we had no control over, replacing reason with emotion, promotes a feeling of victimization, of helplessness, and draws attention away from what we can control.

As human beings, we are only responsible for our own actions. If someone causes us harm, then we have a right and a responsibility to find justice. But if we focus on the crime committed against us and our victimhood, we lose track of our own potential to create good in the world, and prevent evil.

P.S. On a different topic.

The real danger of 9/11 is that it was such a stunning act that it can be used to justify anything.

The right wing has "islamofascism" - a threat so great and grave that, by just invoking the name, it can be used to justify anything. Who wants a nuclear bomb going on in times square?

The left wing has "global warming" - a threat so great and grave that, by just invoking the name, it can be used to justify anything. Why wants our seaside cities drowned?

Of course, the solution presented to both is fundamentally flawed - the RAND corporation, certainly no bastion of liberalism, just released a study stating that any military solution to terrorism is bound to fail. And global warming is, probably, a giant crock. When we are deciding what to do, we have to remember something that has been common knowledge for as long as politicians been around - most politicians are self-interested crooks. If they claim they are trying to help you or protect you in any way, don't take it at face value. Don't be taken up by emotional calls, but rather consider everything rationally.

What is past is past. Many millions of people have been killed by evil in history, many millions probably will be killed by evil. What matters is now, what can be done now. In the here and now, I don't want to lose my country and my liberty to politicians who cynically demagogue these fears in order to justify their own agendas.

It is important to remember that - as vile as islamic fundamentalism is - both Nazism and Communism came not out of that part of the world but out of the Christian westernized lands of Europe. They were both created, basically, by politicians in times of crisis promising to provide protection from very real enemies (the nazis promised protection from the largely jewish communists and the communists promised protection from the ruthless capitalists), and both promised to improve the lives of the people.

Already, America today doesn't in any way resemble the America our parents knew - there is so much less freedom, so much more government, so many more police, so many more laws and regulations, so much more fear.

America can never be destroyed by bombs and guns and terrorists. We are physically too strong - we span a rich continent, and we are extremely well armed and resourceful. We can only be destroyed by forgetting the ideological basis of what makes America.

U guys deserved, it picking a pressident that planned and make that happened. Just analyze teh facts and look that it was a plot to justify the ilicit gain of oil in irak

I had just moved into a new house with my wife 6 months earlier.I recieved a call from my mother to turn on the TV,that we (as a nation) were under attack.It was a sureal event as the planes hit the building and the debri cloud expanded down the street blanketing everything in grey.I remember looking over at my wife,her tears streaming down her face in sorrow.She died less than two years later from a massive internal infection (she was 32).Even now it saddens and angers me how our countrymen were killed.I am not a big fan of Bush's policies nor the war in Iraq.I am however into butchering every damn Muslim sonofabitch that raise so much as a pinky against us.I say kill them all,send their souls sreaming to hell. Let it be the will of Allah that they be a chared corpse,fit only to feed the flys of their pathetic countries.Why rebuild a nation of fools.They want a holy war, give them a total war.We as a nation are to soft on the middle east.We cater to nations who sponser terrorism,and claim them as allies while they laugh at us in private with the very insurgents we seek.The sad fact is our nation has become to tolerent,and it will be our downfall.If the muslims had the technology,firepower and means to wage a war apaun our soil they would have raped killed or forced conversion of every man,woman and child without a second thought.They whine about our abuses and how we are barbarian invaders destroying the cradle of glorious civilization.The US is the friendliest nation to ever wage a war on earth.We constantly check for collateral damage,feed the populace,heal the wounded,rebuild evrything,and manaqge the affairs of this pathetic nation to be (not many nations hand out toys to kids if they intend to wipe them out?).It was wrong of the US not to just wipe the slate clean at the end of WW2,and just eleminate the whole lot.Instead we set up their infrastructures,governments,borders,healthcare,and dozens of other crap for them.They were ( still are just have more $$$) a culture of shrewd traders,bandits and all around camel jockey assholes not to be dealt with or trusted unless you had a gun trained on them and someone to guard your caravan while you slept.Now they are the voice of reason,tolerance,and human rights? The Iraq's allied with Hitler (look it up for yourselves),and were more than happy with his "Jew problem" solutions(most of the muslims think the Holocaust was a fake or at most exagerated).They just got their asses kicked when a British (way to go!) force 1/10th their size stopped them dead in their tracks.It is in our best interest as a nation to eliminate the muslim threat now,vs the time when they have the means to exterminate us in th efuture (this also goes for all you nations who value freedom as well,you know how the friendly little muslim cleric hides behind your rights of free speach to speak out how your nation should burn and everyone should bow their heads to mohamed and wear a burka.Yeah you the nation who can't celibrate a holiday without a letter about how insensitive it is toward muslims or have a puppy as a mascot for the police because dogs are unclean to muslims)For all you idiots who are soon to cry hater or warmonger or whatever kiss my ass.Time will mark my words true,so when your great great grandaughter gets stoned to death by your local muslim conduct police for wearing a short skirt in site of them (or they heard about it) don't worry you won't be there.

i was in a uk bar laughing my fucking arse of you americans deserve everything you get

Firstly I had a weirdly clear memory of this, as I was in Australai and in a Bar late in the evening.

A mate came running down the road saying there had been an accident with the world trade centre.

we all looked to the horizon before my mate could add "The WTC in New York not in Melblourne CBD".

We went inside and all huddled around the tv sushin people so we could hear what had happened.

I ooked at the footage of the planes striking the towers and said "That'll be Bin Laden" I didn't pronounce it correctly as I'd only read about the guy.

Over the next few days I got some very odd looks from people who couldn't understand how I'd known he was behind it.

Reading is a powerful magic it'd seem.

It was a surreal night.

And one other thing.

The guy who posted above me here under the delightful user name of Muslims Suck.

Keep it up fella, it's thinking like that and voting in accordance with that vitriolic garbage that will havethe US hooked into more and more wars more and more death more and more suffering of your own people.

You can NOT beat a terrorist force, you can not beat a terrorist force that is willing to die for it's beliefs.

Not that easily said from a Lazy Boy "I'd die for my beliefs" but actually covered in C4 and ball bearings and blowing yourself up.

The Soviets were beaten by these sorts, no one in the Red Army wanted to fight against people who would run at tanks with an AK47 and 2 satchel chargfes tied to themselves.

It annihilates morale.

No terrorist force has evr been defeated by force of arms.

They are brought into the mainstream they are appeased they are elected.

Look at palestine look at israel look at Northern Ireland.

All governed by one time terrorists.

And AQ are no different. Sure they talk a mean rhetoric of a global islamic state, but that will never happen, the idealogues die and more moderate voices are heard, young blood cools as parenthood dawns.All parents want their kids to be healthy happy educated and have a future.

Even terrorists.

So all of your swagger and aggresion serves only to make you feel better, but in doing so you and those who hold your cartoon ideaology are brewing up trouble and strife that you won't have to deal with, your troops will have to deal with.

So effectively you and your armchair general sound a likes serve only to make thijngs harder on troops you purport to support.

A good deal less about your religious pogrom, your espoused genocide from all such swerer minds might help to if not calm things then at least stop hitting the hornets nest thinking it a pinata.

shady: grow the fuck up

two people i grew up with and went to high school with were killed that day. RIP

MUSLIMS SUCK....

I'm sure your wife is looking down with shame that she could have ever been married to a person like you.

You symbolize everything that is wrong with the world and are a perfect example of why a person like you should never be in charge. You would be no better then any tyrant who has ever existed.
A true leader seeks harmony and peace and has the wisdom to respect the differences each culture brings.

To paint everyone with the same brush is an admission of your ignorance. NO one is every completly bad and no one is ever completly good. Were talking about people. Not imaginary monsters.

I was lucky. I had a business appointment on the 82nd floor of Tower 2 at 8:45am. Normally, I would get there 1/2 hour early to prepare for my meeting. At 6am that day, I decided to postpone my appointment until 1pm so I could take my Porsche to the DMV. I called my contact (who was suppose to meet me there) and informed him that I was running late. My selfish act saved both our lives. For once, I was glad that I took the time to be selfish...

To Doug Cherry-
I miss you bro. It took me 8 years before I would read what actually happened because I just couldn't. But you still live in me. My memories of you are all good - you were so funny, man. Your spirit lives in my heart.
love ya bro,
Ashley
10-1-2008

It amazes me to see the things that people have written on here...this isn't for leaving your political views it's to remember those who lost their lives that day.

I was in 8th grade in my biology class goofy around and doing what kids do. The teacher turned on the news and we all saw what was happening. I remember wondering what the Twin Towers were and that I was glad no one I knew was on any of those planes. We spent the rest of the school day in class watching the news.

When I got home my mother was crying and I just assumed she and my father had got in another argument. Then my mom and dad asked me and my sister to sit down on the couch, they had something to tell us. I thought they were going to say they were getting a divorce, but instead they told us my aunt, my father's sister, was on the plane that hit the pentagon. My mother and my sisters and I sobbed as my father continued to tell us he'd be leaving for North Carolina to take care of everything for my grandma and grandpa. He was gone for 3 months. It took 2 1/2 months to bury her. That was the hardest time of my life. I pray that the people who are responsible for 9/11 burn in hell. And I pray that the families like mine can one day find peice...I still haven't...the pain is still there and still feels so fresh. God Bless America and our troops who fight for our freedom and to keep us safe!