The Diesel Tree

With the price of diesel skyrocketing (prompting independent truckers to strike yesterday), it's interesting to note that Mother Nature has actually made a tree that produce natural diesel!

Treehugger has the story:

Australian farmers in the wet tropical region of North Queensland have bought over 20,000 of these so-called diesel trees. The intention is that in 15 or so years they’ll have their very own oil mine growing on their farmland.

Because, the Brazilian Copaifera langsdorfii, to use its botanical name, can be tapped not unlike a rubber tree, but instead of yielding rubbery latex it gives up a natural diesel. According to the nurseryman selling the trees, one hectare will yield about 12,000 litres annually.

Once filtered—no complex refining required, apparently—it can be placed straight into a diesel tractor or truck. We read that a single Copaifera langsdorfii will continue to produce fuel oil for an impressive 70 years, with the only negative being that its particular form of diesel needs to be used within three months of extraction.

Link - Thanks Chris Tackett!


That's nothing, there's a wonderful weed which has been used as medicine for thousands of years but it's illegal for most humans to use because it's good for them and helps them to keep the corporate/government wool from being pulled over their eyes. Big pharm hates it because they would rather sell you addictive crap with side effects than having you grow your own weed at home. What is this weed? Cannabis.

Those who outlaw nature should be jailed, not those who enjoy using nature for their health and recreation. Why is marijuana schedule I again? No medical benefits to it you say? Blow me.
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So all you need to create diesel is water, dirt, and time, same as our food. How does it compare to the amount of biodiesel you can squeeze out of a field of corn? What's the environmental impact of planting these trees?
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diesel engines will run on almost annything. anny old diesel will run fine on sunflower oil for example. (if the weater is to cold you need to heat it so it stays thin) In fact: Rudolf Diesel ran his prototype diesel engine on coal dust. yep. dust.
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The whole brouhaha surrounding biofuels confuses me.

Both the proa and anti parties are saying that you shouldn't make a choice between food and fuel.

Seems to be missing the point.

It's not making fuel out of corn or sugar cane, but making fuel out of the by product, the stalks and husks etc.

So it's fuel without the loss of food.

And Diesel DESIGNED his engine to run on veg oil, ground nut oil initially.
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QC - The original ABC story was posted March 25:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/25/2198815.htm

But anyway -- this might be doable for sustenance farmers with excess land, but at 30-40 liters annually per tree, there won't be enough production to compete with petroleum diesel. As a (very) rough guess, that's only about twice as much syrup (not sap) that is produced from a maple tree annually, and a gallon of that stuff will cost you $50 easily.

A better option would be a higher-yield source of biodiesel, such as sugarcane or switchgrass, even with the extra processing that they must go through. Or even better, reduce our energy consumption.
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So I just ran the math. If the United States wanted to replace ALL of its crude oil with this "tree diesel," they would have to plant an area slightly larger than the state of NORTH DAKOTA! That's more than 69,000 square miles! Just a little fact everyone should know...
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Take a look at your glass pipe there, buddy. See all that nasty, stanky brown and black gunk? That goes into your lungs. Marijuana is good for you? Give me a break.
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No, this is no April Fool. But the tree won't grow outside the tropics. Fine for Australia, but undoable for the US. Maybe Mexico? It's another reason we need to protect the rain forests.
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our future energy needs don't lie in an single source. What we need is hundreds of sources (i.e. wind, solar, bio-fuels, geo-thermal) if we are to replace our addiction to oil.
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Switch grass in the the american prairies, grows naturally wild could get a couple of harvests every year and makes tip top bio fuel.

It's not one thing or another, it's lots of things.

there is no magic bullet.
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Well, That would be great if it could be implemented in such a way that it preserves the natural diversity of the rainforests, but I don't see that happening. It would likely be better to use algae for biodiesel production, as it can be farmed on otherwise unusable land, and requires nothing but stagnant water and sunlight.
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@Clyde2003: We already have several states' worth of land dedicated to the growing of corn, farming requires a lot of land. How much land are we currently using to drill for oil? Hypothetically, if we could support ourselves with our own oil how much land in America would we need? How does the environmental impact of drilling for oil and planting trees compare?

@Jen: I find it strange that most of the people who launch themselves into fake coughing fits and claim that I'm giving them cancer whenever I light a cigarette still fire up the bong every morning at half past nine.
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I have a cousin who lives in California and he's been thinking of trying out the idea of used cooking oil in diesel cars (of course with minor changes in the engine). We all need cooking oil to cook food so why not use it to fuel our cars? Love the idea of using alternate fuel sources.
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Its time to get seriouse about alternative oils for operating machinery, oil deposites will not last forever, and if we are retain our life style,its time we made a change for the better,I am seriousely considering growing this tree in New Zealand as an additive to the deasil for my own consumption.
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