We’ve been thinking about a new project for Neatorama, a possibile way to bring you enhanced content. It’s still in the planning stage, so we want your input. What kind of things do you look for when you click on Neatorama? What posts would you like more information on? What would you like to see more of, or less of? What suggestions do you have for us, to make your surfing experience more pleasurable, or more informative? Do you have any questions we could work on answering? To get you thinking, Alex tells me that the best comment or suggestion could win you a Neatorama t-shirt (old style). Thanks!
Thanks.
This is the best spot in all the interwebs for weirdness and wonder. I showcases the freaks who follow the flow of creativity to the bitter end. It's twisted listings always inspire and renew the hope for mankind.
But, if you want to create some new bells and whistles, how about a "Neatness Factor"? Make a button called "This is so Neat!" and then have a section that lists the highest rated bizarrities.
Or something.
Good luck, and keep on trucking. We love this place. We love it a lot.
(Note: this did not happen this time.)
Please use more stable ads that are less intrusive.
Neatness factor sounds like a great idea to me, although I read everything that comes on here, so it wouldn't really matter to me.
oh, wait...i use the freely available Ad Block Plus that can be downloaded as an extension for Firefox. that's why.
Also, enough with the Global Warming Junk Science. It isn't neat
And keep the political stuff going on, especially the current administration, yee haw!!!
Also to combat the long loading times, I don't encounter them, you could organize the posts on a 24 hour period. Make a new page every day so that people who don't have a chance to check the site daily know what they missed. (again, another problem I don't have)
Last but not least. . . PLEASE MAKE THE TITLE LINK TO THE STORY!!!! I cant tell you how many times I click on the title for a story expecting to go to the page that the story links to.
I love the site just as it is, even with the kitties. You guys seem to strike the right political balance too, which makes coming to this site refreshing after staring at political blogs.
More food. More Art. Add some lifestyle stuff that's really odd, like bizarre occupations, tough living conditions, homes with unusual histories, really stupid classes offered in colleges. And a milkshake recipe that includes raisins.
can you setup your comments section like youtube in which people can respond to other people's comments, delineated by an indent? that would be boss!
also, is this website Alex's sole job? and how many people work for neatorama? if you can indulge my curiousity i'd greatly appreciate it.
have a neat day!
You've heard of the site Boing Boing right?
Could you get rid of the quotes written in italics? (I mean not the quotes themselves, just the fond) It is really hard to read and doesn't even look neat. There must be some other way to show where a quote starts and ends.
Otherwise, a "neat" button is a good idea.
:-)
You could have a neatness voting thing, either 1-5 or thumbs up/down. That could be cool.
You could also tags the posts, with things like "cats","politics","animals", "death", etc.. then have a search page where you can search for things based on tags, like "cats" and "death" or something. That's fairly easy and pretty powerful.
I would like to see more things about subcultures. Goth, punk, jazz, hip-hop, industrial, rave, urban tribes, etc. I think you should make it a channel on Neatorama. I will edit it for you;-)
Would this be considered kidnapping? Will we see something like this soon?
Mike Ross
Ditto for the reload time- far too long. Also, I don't like the chunk of text adds before (above) the comments. You already use the right 50% of the screen for your adds, why make me scroll through more just to read comments? You should try center justifying the page too, all the cool sites like fark.com do it.
Overall, awesome content, keep up the great work!
I'm surprised by your choice of imagery for this post, however - I can't believe people still use that horrible clipart!
My RSS feed displays the nine latest stories, and that along with tabbed browsing, means I don't need forward/back links, but if others want them- go for it.
The NeatOmeter is a good idea, as are the tags. The only other thing I can think to suggest is the ability to reply to other people's posts- this would help build up a community.
Every link takes me away from Neatorama. I would much rather links open in a new window.
I have never had a problem with load times. Person that wants a search... its right there on the top right, or you can click a category to browse.
Tone down the white background?
reader profile links might be interesting (i'm no techie so i don't know the lingo) - just a hyperlink from the screenname to find out the basics about posters. i'm often curious who commentors are (or purport to be).
keep the kitties. maybe balance them with more dogs, but c'mon, dogs aren't funny.
the verizon ads especially slow me down, and are too easy to accidentally click on.
The "read-ability" of the site might be improved by making post size more standard. I am a big fan of the Bathroom Reader, but sometimes I like to skip it and come back later. Perhaps you link to a secondary page so you don't have to scroll forever?
Of course it wouldn't hurt to give away a few more free t-shirts too! I stink at the "caption" contests, but I will be victorious (eventually)!!
I also agree on links opening a new window. PLEASE!
Like most of the above, faster loading would be fun to have as well as the option to edit comments before posting.
[just kidding guys]
Please dont post "Top 10 whatevers" in their entirety. If I'm not interested in that post, its a pain to scroll through.
"Keep it fun, humorous and entertaining." Good comment. Please no posts about "wow look at china killing all these cats" or anything along those lines.
"Is this neat?" is a good question to ask about content before posting it on this site.
That being said, keep the strange, cool, interesting, I-had-no-idea content coming.
But other than that, really fantastic site.
Strange, unique, interesting stuff, I loved all that posts on the agents who pause for 5 mins in Union Square too.
but i would love it more if the links opened into new windows. . . that would be awesome!
i am also a big fan of the egg art contest detailed in comment #15, seriously, some monthly weird-art-with-a-theme contest would be RAD!
ps, keep the cats
And the games you suggest are generally awesome too!
**suggestion**
have a search box to find a post by it's title. I hate coming back a week later to show a friend something and hunting through page after page
Keep up the good job, and thanks for the good times.
Sadly, ads are a necessity for this blog. I was lucky to be able to get top-tier (or close to it anyhow - no stupid blinkin' ads) that pays a little better, but we have to live with their ad servers' lag time and the eccentricities of the ads.
With a few exceptions, "bad" banners happen intermittently - if you find it hard to see Neatorama, chances are your browser just happen to get (and cache) a bad Flash banner. Simply delete your browser's cache and reload it - 99.9% of the problem goes away.
I've said it before: I'm ambivalent about adblock. It takes revenue away from the sites that you visit.
I'm surprised no one has complained about length of Neato's front page. We actually used to have longer front page a while back (50 posts), now we've pared it down to 30.
I'm also surprised to see how many people remember old posts :) After 12,000+ posts, even I don't remember what's on the blog ...
Great suggestions so far (it'll take me a while to digest them) - please keep 'em coming! I'll respond more when I get a chance later today.
" Happy Birthday, Telephone!"
The only blawg I check that has anything about old gadgets. And steampunk-ish dream gadgets of yesterday! Always entertaining to laugh about the past.
Less articles like:
"Neuroscience in Renaissance Religious Paintings"
There was none.
Also it would be really cool if you had some sort of effect over the whole page that made it look like it was snowing inside of the browser window. F*CK OFF #58 BITCHEZ
The ability to browse the largest amount of information with the minimal amount of scrolling or clicking "next/previous page".
Good Examples:
www.notcot.org
www.tastespotting.com
www.digg.com
www.metafilter.com
http://popurls.com/
The above listed sites all resize smoothly if I go full-window (widescreen).
If I go full-screen on Neatorama, it still only takes up that center column (with a lot of whitespace on the sides) and I have to scroll-down...scroll-down...scroll-down to browse all the articles I've missed since last logon. I realize thats a small quibble, and that Neatorama is intended to be a "Wonderful BLOG"... so it conforms to typical blog-style. But why limit yourself to "TYPICAL" blog style. If its "wonderful"---why not make your design one-of-a-kind WONDERFUL.
I love the content of Neatorama..I think you guys do a great job of choosing "wonderful" stories. Its the design and underlying structure that I would love to see changed in order to make it more flexible and easier to browse. (in other words, ditch the single-column layout and find something more full-page-wonderful)
and keep the freaking cats!
Feed My Brain Neatorama!!!!!..^_^
Sometimes, some of the articles are pretty long - lots of scrolling if you're not interested.
Also, try to block comments from anybody who might disagree with any opinion I have.
The only suggestion I really have, then, is something I believe a few other folks have already mentioned: for those particularly long posts, maybe you could have just the first paragraph on the front page and then use a "more after the jump" link to the full article? Sometimes when I'm in a hurry I'd rather read the shorter articles and in those cases it gets a bit cumbersome to scroll through super-long ones, even if there are other times when I really -enjoy- the longer articles...
i also agree, more monkeys!
you are wonderful! thanks so much.
penn and teller, houdini, jay sankey, david stone, david roth, everything "magic" :D
I get enough of school shooters, politics, and rapists in the real news...
I think 99% of your subjects interesting and worth reading. So don't listen to your readers. Just keep doing what you're doing! Your own instincts have proven to be good. If someone doesn't like a subject he/she can scroll further.
Oh, and don't be afraid to hand politicians their asses when they f*ck things up too much or act from the motive of greed and manipulation. Remember, "conspiracy" needn't always be a derogatory...
On the other hand, anything you've found that keeps it fresh for you or improves navigation is always worth checking out. You can always do more of what people rave most about, but don't narrow the variety.
Well done for creating one of the best blogs on the web!!!
I'm one of the adblockers. I appreciate that this hurts the revenues of my favourite sites, but if I had to sit through animated ads, ads with sound, and ads that delay the loading of the page -- I wouldn't visit here at all.
I would be prepared to declare an adblock truce for any site that only uses static ads that don't detract from the reading experience. There might be a market for an advertising company that does this.
Oh, and man boobs for the ladies, naturally.
Also, lose the cats and the political stuff. Politics loses 50 percent of your audience (depending on your affiliation.)
Finally, like amazon, it would be neat to have a section on each story that says "If you liked this post, try these" with links to some of your past bests.
Like some of the other posters, I too have had numerous problems with occasional ad-hijacking.
P.S. Keep the cats. Add more dogs.
I really like the cross-culture weirdness/differences things too. Also mysteries, like medical, hauntings, etc are neat.
I'm not too crazy about the lego stuff, seems too childish, also the star wars stuff, then there is the lego-star wars-stuff, enough already!
I have never had a problem with ads, a little thing called pop up blocker took care of that, also I don't have a problem with load times.
//but not to mine of course.
the ad pages are killing me too. they don't bother me at home because i have a mac that uses safari, but i don't spend the majority of my online-time at home; i'm usually at work or school, and they use internet explorer. yea i understand they help pay the bills, but there HAS to be another way to advertise. otherwise, keep up the good work and i will continue to come to this site!
Don't be afraid to get political, just because some people would prefer to live in denial of the world's problems doesn't mean the rest of us can't benefit from learning something horrific going on in the world while we check out beautiful bridges from the same country.
Also, any stories about Mt. Dew or Crocs footwear would be greatly appreciated.
Keep up the goodish work.
Peace in the Middle East.
I love the simplicity of the site, it makes me feel like i have discovered something great before it has become popular. Like discovering a great musician before they become famous.
More competitions with really mind-boggling questions that give me something to ponder or work out.
Otherwise keep up the great work!!
Less of the US domestic politics, US commodities, US TV shows, US nostalgia and US in-jokes. Not none, just balanced by a global perspective. Does this mean more international contributors? There's more to life than the US of A. 'Us' is bigger than that. More of a sense of fellowship-in-weirdness with a whole world of neatoliciousness please.
The humour is great and I also like learning stuff. I don't have time to trawl around looking under every rock, so I really rely on you to chuck the good stuff at me. Keep up the good work, and keep getting better.
First of all: load time by Nick, rianfike, and everybody! By far it's the biggest complaint most people have.
I think we've managed to make Neatorama's posts load faster. For the most part anyhow. I notice that the post content now loads much, much faster on Firefox (not sure about IE).
With one (minor) sacrifice: when a post gets very popular, like when it's dugg, the server will automatically use a memcached version. This means that if you comment, it won't show up for a minute or two.
Neatorama's front page is always cached. This is why there is a lag before author's posts hit the front page.
Re: Neat-O-Meter or Neatness Factor by rianfike and others. This is actually something I had been trying to work on for oh, about a year or so. Haven't gotten very far (obviously!) Neat idea, though.
Re: Title Link to Story by X-Shark. This is hard, because it would require a serious hack into wordpress and altering the way authors write their posts.
Re: Previous and Next Posts. What an excellent idea, DaMamaJama! We used to have something like this on Neatorama, but a few skin upgrades later, we discarded it. Now it's back, with a more simple and direct buttons below the post. For this, you'll get a free Neatorama T-shirt as promised!
Re: indented comments by NiteWhite. This is also hard, plus I actually don't like that commenting format. After a while, it's hard to who's responding to what (like in a long reddit thread).
Actually, I have a full time job - so when I'm busy IRL, Neatorama doesn't get updated as often! I think Neatorama's authors are what's neat about the blog.
Oh, and Neatorama doesn't have employees. It has one slave: me.
Re: quotes in italics. Really? This is surprising to me, since that seems to be the standard of quoting stuff (putting it in blockquotes with italics).
Re: tags. Great idea, MrBinky - Wordpress has tags capability built in, but I just never got in the habit of writing what the tags are! Oh, I promised that I would start and I did ... but a few posts later, I forgot about 'em.
Re: Neatorama Channels. Excellent idea - maybe sometime in the future, as that would require a lot of work :) Specialization into niches is obviously a way to make the blog grow (for instance the Popsugar and its sister blogs) - but that would entail an organization beyond this one guy (me).
Re: Bait cars. I don't know about bait cars, Mike Ross, but bait donuts I really don't like. I always fall for them.
Re: Design by Xultar. Yup - here it is! A little cosmetic upgrade for Neato (while keeping the overall "simple and white" theme).
Re: One long article a day by Adam Freitag. I'm trying to bring more long, exclusive articles (like Neatorama Only, Bathroom Reader, and mental_floss articles). If you guys know any authors who'd like to collaborate, please let me know!
Re: Center justifying the page by Glen. Isn't Neatorama centered? I don't know about justifying the blog. It's beyond any justification!
Re: Target = Blank by SenorMysterioso. This was a big debate I had a while ago, ultimately it lost because that's not the way most websites work. Plus, I don't know if people with older IE browsers (yes, there are still a lot of them) like it when a link spawn a new window.
Also, this would either require a custom hack or force authors to write their post in a new way (putting in the target = blank in the code for their links).
Re: Reader Profile by SW - this is an excellent idea that I have no clue where to begin. We were talking with another company about hooking up a social networking / community to Neatorama, but we couldn't resolve some technical issue regarding the way comments are handled. Maybe in the future ...
Re: Polls by Ali S. I really, really liked polls, but had to stop for a while because the poll plugins we use really taxed the servers to its maximum capacity!
Re: Long post and post size by OddNumber, Video Game Dork and VonSkippy. Hm, well, we can do the "read more inside" kind of deal (it's a built in function in wordpress). It's just I've never remembered to do that! I've never had any problem scrolling down (or hitting page down on the keyboard).
Re: duplication with mentalfloss by Bwest. Really? We don't coordinate or anything like that ... They're an excellent blog with many writers, so they cover a lot of ground.
Re: Calendar with condensed version of Neatorama by Nicholas and sort by date idea by gabtastic. Hm, those are two neat ideas. Let me see if we can do them, maybe in the archive section ...
Re: User forums by Kelly. Another neat idea - I've been trying to get one done, but got side-tracked. Later this year, maybe :)
Re: Search box to find a post by its title by andrewstewart20. We have this already - the keyword match has to be exact though.
Re: re-size on full window by Jason. Hm... that would require a redesign of how my tables are done (yes, I'm an old school coder who prefers tables to pure CSS layout). Not hard, but just a lot of work. Probably won't happen unless a horde of people started asking for it!
Re: flurry of activity by ian. Yes, this is a by-product of how I write for Neatorama. My posts are prepared off-site, and then uploaded to and posted on Neatorama in a batch. I've spaced posts before, but most of the time, I just forget to do that. :)
A post every hour is a standard I just can't begin to dream to fulfill ... not without quitting my job and working full time on Neato anyhow.
Re: magic category by qureyoon. Believe it or not, we used to have a magic category, but it was so skimpy that I just did away with it ... we'll try to find more cool magic stuff for you.
Re: contributor by floatingk. Hey, thank you for the offer! I'm quite flattered. We'll probably open up Neatorama to more authors in the future, but for the time being, we've had enough great people writing for the blog. I'll keep you in mind, though, floatingk!
Re: static ads by Evil Pundit. I'm all for it - unfortunately, I haven't found a high paying ad network that displays only static ads. I've heard about The Deck, but never got invited :)
Re: USA-centric perspective by Lasse. Kind of hard, since I live in the US - I don't know how to write in a non-USA-centric perspective!
Most of Neatorama readers are from the US, too, although we do have a significant number of international readers. We have international authors, so maybe they can put a more "international" feel to the site.
Re: related posts by Fran. That's a good idea - I don't know if there's an automatic way of doing it. I try to put "Previously on Neatorama" kind of links whenever I remember.
The crossover with mental_floss is mainly my fault, since I write for both sites. I have a daily column of links over there. I try to find enough good stuff for both sites, but when I find a really good story or link, it's hard to say that one site "deserves" to use it more than the other. It's like deciding whether to post something that Boing Boing already linked. On the one hand, you figure if its been there, everyone has seen it. On the other hand, a lot of people say they don't go there. I don't want y'all to miss out on something really good!
As to the necessity of advertising at Neatorama- I don't crunch the numbers myself, but two years ago I complained to Alex about the cost of bandwidth. He told me how much bandwidth this site used, and it made my head reel! It's only grown since then. Success has its price.
Thanks to everyone who posted to the suggestion box! We should do this about once or twice a year, dontcha think?