Remember the post about parents that named their kid Adolf Hitler and got into trouble when they tried to order a birthday cake? Well, here's an update. New Jersey Children's Services has just taken the kids into custody:
The three-year-old boy and his two sisters - JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 1, and 8-month-old Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie - were removed from their home by New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services.
So far no officially reason has been given for the intervention, and local police say they have not received any reports of abuse or negligence.
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I swear, I'm naming my kid Genghis Khan.
It's one of those hard things about defending freedom. To genuinely defend freedom, you sometimes have to defend some really awful people.
Should all those parents have their kids taken away?
I like this quote: "they will be free to make their own decisions and choices about everything, including race." I guess that will be a real breakthrough in human genetics.
Neither parent works because of illness - Mr Campbell, 35, a landscape gardener, suffers from the lung disease, emphysema, while his 25-year-old wife has been unable to work as a waitress in a fast-food restaurant for several years because of back problems.
Wow! They named their little boy after "The Master Race" They haven't worked in years but keep having kids; that's pretty masterful.
Naming a child Adolf Hitler is like throwing them to the wolves. It nearly guarantees ridicule and physical harm will fall upon the child. This is why the child is being taken away.
This isn't an issue of free speech, or any rights - it's an issue of this child's life. These people can believe what they want and that's fine by me - but doing that to your child is just cruel.
What about the rights of the child to have a "normal" childhood? The parents have no right to take that away, and yet by naming them such hateful names they have - it's pretty much condemning them from the get-go.
You can't compare a religious prophet to a mass-murdering racist dictator.
1. The child better not go to any ghettos in America.
2.Is he going to go to KKK kindergarten and KKK school? I doubt that, and he'll get his ass kicked plenty in any regular school just for being Adolf.
3.He better not be stopped by any black cop.
4. How is he going to travel around when he grows up? People with regular names have problems obtaining visas to certain countries, and for poor Adolf the doors will be closed for sure.
5.When the child will grow up and will want to go out with girls, will the parents of these girls be happy to know that their daughter is going out with the dude named after Hitler?
I'm pretty sure that the child will hate his parents and will have to change his name
Nevermind, I see the Child Services Van pulling up.
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JoyceLynn Aryan Nation!
I think I just cracked a rib.
Would A. Ryan Nacion have been alright?
"Hey, Nation just took a shit in the bathtub!"
"Classic Nation!"
"Uber nationalistic!"
Melissa: It's not the "views". It's the fact that the parents are clearly morons who shouldn't have been allowed to breed in the first place.
"J" up above has it spot on. Calling your kid that is setting them up for a lifetime of abuse, at least until they reach the age they can change their name.
Sloane: Maybe it was a "domestic dispute" but I bet the whole cake story popped them up on their radar.
Learn a little history. Muhammed MASS MURDERED anyone and everyone who opposed him in 6th century Arabia. No different from Hitler. And Muhammed's followers have continued to MASS MURDER ever since. (research Tamerlane/Moghuls and the MILLIONS of Hindus they mass murdered in the name of Muhammed.)
And what about Jim Jones? He was also a "religion prophet". Or can his murderous crimes be brushed aside?
Lots of people likely poison their children's minds with a pretty high level of hate like this, but there is something uniquely sick about how overt and proud and flagrant they are with it, what with the naming of the kids and the cheerful oblviousness and all. That's a singularly evil sweet spot between garden-variety ignorant hate and sociopathic egotism, something about not only having dark hearts, but wanting to sort of peacock around, provoking and using their children as pawns in their sickness. My live-and-let-live part just blew its fuse.
Sterilization? Are you sure you don't have kids named Adolf Hitler?
How about gas? Or death camps?
Answer me LisaL, you intolerant fool. You really want to sterilize people for being stupid.
"people like that do not deserve to have children and their idiotic views and hate need to die with them."
I guess you need to OFF yourself.
Let me guess, democrat?
And why not? I guarantee you, somewhere there's a shrine with Hitlers face on it.
As to these people, they are dumb. Their kids will be dumb. But unfortunate as that is, it is not illegal. The argument can be made that naming the kid Adolf Hitler is an act of abuse, but if it is not made in accordance with the rules, regulations and laws set down to govern the people, this is just kidnapping.
Make your case, THEN act.
But also we are guaranteed the freedom of speech...
it's not much different that white kids in southern
schools openely being racist, which they do admit.
It is no one's place to say what morals are right or wrong.
No, being a member of the Nazi party is not illegal, nor naming your child after a mass murderer, however deplorable it may be. The authorities admit there has been no abuse or negligence. And yes, there is supposed to be freedom of speech in this country, even of views we don't agree with.
To sum up: as horrible as these parents may be, the government should not come in and take the children just because they don't like your political views.
You're a Nazi, too. Godwin be damned.
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I'm undecided about what child services should do in this situation, but I do see this as a form of child abuse. If the father wanted to raise his kids to be racists, that's one thing. But to make his kids have to deal with society's prejudices (whether he feels those prejudices are right or wrong) in such a tragic way is insane.
The number of people here in support of taking the kids away is more than a little scary. I may not agree with the parents' ideology nor their choice of names, but I have to chime in with Melissa & ask, "who's next?"
You do know that a child is 1 year old until it turns 2, right?
I am certain this can be classified as a hate crime, and therefore illegal. You cannot have total free speech. Hitler started from words too.
"Neither parent works because of illness - his ..wife has been unable to work ...because of back problems, she says."
Probaly strained her back playing to much tennis on the wii.
I am maybe guessing that the depratment of labor has checked their claims since the first time they were in the news, and there was a new wii in the background of the some of the images.
"And he says he may one day move his family to Germany, where he believes the kids' names would be considered "more normal"."
Haha. Yeah good luck with that.
Sadly we are stuck with them. Germany's immigration policies are strict. They do not like slackers.
By being such a douchebag that you don't recognize sarcasm, YOU lose credibility. And, by dropping buzz words like "hate crime" and nice anti-rights statements like "You cannot have total free speech", you prove you are a brain dead, left wing stooge, a "useful idiot" as Lenin coined. Keep it up. I'm sure you make your sociology professor proud.
Adolf Hitler: lol. you're a laugh riot.
"Wants to move to Germany" hahahahahahaha! I think he'll find that they'll be even less tolerant of his children's names than the people in the US.
You don't say the swastika is just a piece of art if you also wear Nazi boots and collect WWII literature. No one will buy that BS. This guy apparently doesn't understand what racism actually is because he contradicts himself about 10 times in that one short article. These people are so blind that they will be raging mad about a cake, but not see how their children will be endangered in the future. They are completly unfit as parents.
The Ethic Soup blog has an excellent article on the repeated use of this Nazi slogan in Germany today, suggesting that the companies who use the slogan but deny awareness of its Nazi connotation really do know exactly what they are doing. More Neo-Nazis but from the corporate world? The article is at:
http://www.ethicsoup.com/2009/01/german-coffee-shop-chain-uses-nazi-slogan-ads.html
Something else is going on in that home that is really not any of our business because it involves minors. We may never know, and quite frankly, we shouldn't. Those kids have enough to deal with.
Then again, I do not think it would be as quickly recognized as the name Adolph Hitler.
Exactly. Something more is going on because the state would not want to embarrass itself by taking someone's kids off them just because of their names. Eventually, that would get out and the uproar would be pretty huge, even from people who think that the parents are idiots already. The names might have drawn attention to something else.
And Sharon McEachern is right about the story with Tchibo .. the company says it hadn't realized that the slogan would be misunderstood and it was not their intention to bring up the concentration camps, etc. This campaign was quickly taken down after the first complaints. As far as I know, someone in an advertising company had thought up the idea and nobody thought that it was too similiar to that sentence from the WW2. Not everyone is that fluent in history ....
good post. i have heard about the "Standesamt" but didn't know what it was called. having lived in the U.S. all my life i find it strange that people would put up with that. not that i'm 100% against it - especially in extreme cases like these. i'm curious though...can you tell me what the general feeling about the Standesamt is with the people of Germany?
also ITA with your second comment. i can't imagine a company (that wanted to succeed) would want to associate itself with Nazi's/deathcamps. you're sooo right, not everyone is that fluent in history - let alone subtle nuances like that. seems that people want to sensationalize things like this company's name when, in all likelihood, it just was what it was. a name.
I'll be interested to see how this all pans out.
Why? Because they were doomed from the start. They have parents who don't work (and I will guess that the parents will fight whatever attempt the state makes to force them into being employed), obviously come from a low income background, and from hearing the parents and aunt speak,a poor educational background.
All that is bad enough, but you can overcome it. I had all that going against me as a child in a tiny coal mining town, but I managed to get out of there and make something of myself.
However, I did not have the giant millstone of a ridiclous name around my neck. That makes it so much worse for these kids on so many levels....If the idiot father wanted to show 'ethnic pride', why didn't he use Scottish names for his children? Campbell is Scottish after all.
William Wallace Campbell...There's a name that looks good on a job application.
Adolph Hitler Campbell...Makes you look like an a-hole on a job application.
Heck, name the boy after B-movie great Bruce Campbell for that matter. That will give him cred in geek circles later in life at least.