Matt Hoyle's Vintage Boxers Photography

Photographer Matt Hoyle (featured on Neatorama before here) has this photo series titled "Fighters" featuring retired boxers who were fierce back in the days and still look like they can beat the tar out of me now!

http://matthoyle.com/Artist.asp?ArtistID=12351&Akey=KLBEK6W2 [Flash, warning: it'll resize your window, but the photos are great!]


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I'm with Jason. The most important thing is that these images are amazing and that it's clear there is a lot of talent coming from this artist. Whether they are pure photographs, treated photographs or a composite, the fact is they are still photographs and he consistently creates images that transport you to another time and place, that conjures up sentiments and feelings, and that stir the imagination. You can see he has a connection with the people in his shots - they're not just static snaps. That plus the post production techniques makes this guy a master.
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Well, I guess I'm out of order then for saying:

I think they are amazing images. If they are altered to some degree, does that not make them simply photographs that have been altered?

At what point is it no longer "photography?" Is it when you digitally edit a photo? Surely not. If so, that is to say that no skill is required as long as digital editing tools are available. I will not swallow that sentiment.
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@Sean

Well, I'm just going by the whole... "vintage boxers photography" thing.

There are a few that definitely look like photographs, but some look so rendered, and not in the HDR kind of way. That one you linked up there is a grand example of such.

I guess he might have superimposed a CG over the actual photograph. Who knows... but it's definitely confusing my eyes.
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Fresh, how do you know they're photographs? They look like CG to me too, especially his Cinemaricana series.

The Train Depot image cinches it. Unless of course he took extraordinary steps to make them look CG, like painting sharp edged shadows on the floor, etc.
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