The Weavers Code, a Conspiracy Theory of the Cathars

So let me get this straight. Sin is matter; morality is decided by density?

it's not april 1st again is it?

the Albigensian Crusade "created" the first Inquisition. Talibans cannot teach us anything : been there, done that.

Mmmm. I love me a conspiracy! :)

"Pope *Innocent* III launched the Albigensian Crusade to wipe out the Cathars (in which about 1 million people were killed)."

That pretty much summarizes the catholic church (and what's wrong with a lot of religion.)

And I am not an athiest.

Actually. That theory is quite similar to the Christian Gnostic belief system - just taken to its rational extreme. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the root of the Cathar belief system. Also the year 2012 is no coincidence either. That's the end of the Mayan calendar which is the favorite date of the end of the current state of existence (not 2000 mind you).

Also would I be mistaken in correcting that video by saying that the most dangerous heresy to challenge the church was the Aryan heresy (Jesus was not divine) which was widespread in Europe throughout the days of the early church. It wasn't until the creation and use of the nicene creed that the heresy was exterminated.

Wow, was that dumb.
Is there any filtering applied to content here? Or does just anything get the go ahead?

HOLY CRAP! 2012 AGAIN!

any credibility that this video had went down the drain with Dr Patric Walsh Atkins brilliant performance. maybe the bowtie was a little too much.

I don't think any non-Christians would care about what these guys have to say.

There are many logical flaws in this piece, beginning with the hypnotic effect of Dr. Atkins' hair, which may contain clues to the scrolls in it.

The general state of anarchy proposed by most end times literature (the Revelations, Cormac McCarthy's "The Road", Mad Max, et al) leads me to the believe the end times will in reality consist of happiness and cake. Chocolate cake. With milk chocolate icing.

"That pretty much summarizes the catholic church (and what’s wrong with a lot of religion.)"

Actually, this pretty much summarizes what's wrong with a lot of religion:

In the words of Ayn Rand, "The good, say the mystics of spirit, is God, a being whose only definition is that he is beyond man’s power to conceive—a definition that invalidates man’s consciousness and nullifies his concepts of existence . . . Man’s mind, say the mystics of spirit, must be subordinated to the will of God . . . Man’s standard of value, say the mystics of spirit, is the pleasure of God, whose standards are beyond man’s power of comprehension and must be accepted on faith . . . The purpose of man’s life . . . is to become an abject zombie who serves a purpose he does not know, for reasons he is not to question."

I must be dense tonight but I'm still not clear on what these Cathars believe. I guess I just don't understand religious thought in general.
That or I just got distracted by the good doctor's bow tie and matching handkerchief.

Oh, god, now they're quoting Ayn Rand. Somebody shoot me...

ted, I wasn't going to say it, but I was thinking it. :)

Ayn Rand?! AAARRRGGGG

If its true its true, no matter who says it...Jesus loving brainwashed freaks.

Oh Look its the second coming!!!! ZOMG!!!!!!! Chariots of fire and everything!!!!!!
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Made you look.

Utter hogwash. The Cathar conspiracy theory was put to rest some time ago and very publicly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

I can't believe it is still making the rounds. Guess that's the joy of the internet.

Oh yes, the evil Catholic Church. They didn't have bomb vests back then I guess.

The video cited, along with the recent proliferation of online postings are part of a viral marketing campaign on behalf of Universal Pictures. There is no truth to their assertions whatsoever. Brad Hoffstetter, Communications Division, Assembly of good Christians. www.cathar.net

Cristophe and ARGexpose are right. If you want the real story of the Cathars, check out a new book called The Fire and the Light: A Novel of the Cathars and the Lost Teachings of Christ.

Here is a "novel" idea if you want the real story of the Cathars....go to a library or bookstore and read a scholarly book i.e. one composed from facts, not fantasy. Some of the these various novels dumping the market of late may be entertaining, may be well written, may even contain some historical facts, but they remain first and foremost works of fiction.

Brad Hoffstetter
Communications Division
Assembly of good Christians
www.cathar.net

religion is the death of truth

Truth is the death of superstitious religion.

Brad Hoffstetter
Communications Division
Assembly of good Christians
http://www.cathar.net

With religion comes the bending of truth and with the bending of truth comes unreal fantasies of what we want to believe is happening or will happen...until every last person has done as much research as historians them selves visited Cathar history in Europe and really looked with a new perspective upon who they were, what they believed, what they are doing, and how they do it then no one her can really go rambling nonsense about the Cathars, "Wanted" is not a good description of who the Cathars were either so dont even start on that. Look them up read up on them and then we may seminar them diligently and find a common understanding. I for one am not Christian or any branch of it I do not believe in God no Jesus however there is no doubt he trod this earth. The Cathars were a group of religious men and women seeking the truth and enlightenment through their own way, sin, but all religions do the same things the Christians are know to teach peace, love, understanding, then why are they the most violent, non extremist, religion known to man. They killed all who they find different or controversial to their beliefs. We owe it to the Cathars to at least learn something about them thats fact not fiction before we go down talking them or supporting them. I'm neither against nor with Christianity but the facts stand true against them. 2012, fantasy or fact, no body knows but before we go making hasty assumptions of it let us look at the probabilities of what it is shall we.

The Analytical Middle Ground,
Brandon,
BKDspeedster@aol.com
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