Meet David Lucas, a farmer from Mildenhall, Suffolk, UK. He has been selling gallows to African countries with deplorable human rights records for about 10 years.
The execution equipment he says he sells ranges from single gallows, at about £12,000 each, to "Multi-hanging Execution Systems" mounted on lorry trailers, costing about £100,000.
Amnesty [International] said the export of gallows, which will be made illegal by an EC regulation in July, was "appalling".
But Mr Lucas said the trade was not sick and "business is business". He added some people deserved the death penalty.