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Eugene's cause is truly noble, although it's doubtful that the advertisers will agree when they find out that their billboards have been appropriated.

This is why I'm not sure it's noble. Those spaces are the rental property of the advertisers. They paid for that space.

It would be like if Lavie rented space in an art gallery to show his work, only to discover that advertisers and broken in and covered up his artwork with billboards.
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The Southern states seceded to preserve slavery and white supremacy, so the Confederate cause was indisputably wicked. But they did form a constitutional republic that had popular support and create the institutions common to national governments: legislatures, courts, a currency, an army, a navy and diplomats. There was a common, but not universal collective identity as Southerners and citizens of the Confederacy. They were a nation.

The Confederacy was a nation that was (justifiably) conquered in four years by the United States, but it existed as a nation for that time.

Similarly, if the United States of America was defeated and conquered by 1779, it would have been a nation--a short-lived nation, but a nation nonetheless.

As for the constitutionality of secession: I am uncertain. The impetus for the Southern secession was a moral abomination, but secession in general is not inherently wrong.

Remember that the United States formed as a result of a secessionist movement within the British Empire.
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