Muslims Wearing Things

The Tumblr blog Muslims Wearing Things was launched as a reaction to former NPR analyst Juan Willams saying he gets nervous when he sees people in Muslim garb on planes. Looking through the pictures of the things Muslims wear, I was reminded of a neat bit of casting I knew about but had forgotten.


Prince Abdullah (now King Abdullah II) of Jordan, wearing a Starfleet uniform in a 1996 episode of Star Trek: Voyager.

Then there's reality.


US Army Specialist and Muslim Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan wore camouflage, up until the day he was killed in combat in Iraq, fighting for his country.

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Nice job Miss Cellania!

I'm not sure what to think of the whole Juan Williams thing...I liked him when he was a program host on NPR, but ever since he began "palling around" with the likes of O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck and the rest of the Teabaggers on Fox...I say good riddance to Juan.

He tried to play both sides of the fence. Now he is on the Fox payroll...follow the money.

Bill
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Bill, great comment... totally agree...

US Army Specialist and Muslim Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan, I'd just like to say thank you for your service to YOUR country..
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Yes those poor old muslims, they make a few genocide comments, start a few wars, blow up a bunch of people, state history is a lie, stone a few women, cut off a few heads, state their mission in life is to kill the infidels and they're labeled for life.

Just like the small subset of crazies do NOT represent ALL muslims, neither do the FEW celebrates that have integrated themselves way more then most into western civilization.
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hey vonskippy, i can't tell what you're getting at. your first statement seems like a sarcastic comment attempting to paint muslims as villainous people who are getting too much sympathy for their oppression. the second half of your comment at first rebukes that idea but then expresses outrage at the fact that the majority of muslims have not properly "intergrated"

do muslims need to integrate into western society? last time i checked that they are free to do whatever the heck they want.

...

i remember when busta rhymes came out with the song "arab money" with t-pain and akon and people got really upset

i was like "what?? t-pain, akon, and busta rhymes are all muslim..."

also who cares that song rules.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y&ob=av3e
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People who want to divide us are going to erroneously label what Juan Williams said as racist. It was not.

Let me put something in context for you.

Racism is when one hates another, or group of others, based on their ethnicity. It is narrowly defined and should be narrowly defined.

What Juan Williams said is not only a sentiment most feel, but it was honest and he was expressing his feeling of shame over the fact that he harbors those fears.

Fear is not racism. Neither is disagreeing with one's political agenda. Neither is wanting to stop illegal immigration.

There are real racists in the world. All we do is marginalize the damage they can do by throwing the term around at people who do not deserve to be labeled as such.

Juan Williams is a liberal. He is unapologetic for it. His "palling" around with Fox News does not make him a fake liberal either. Fox News, which has an admittedly right lean on their punditry makes pretty strong efforts to bring opposing points of view on to their shows. The same cannot be said for MSNBC and their other competitors.

NPR had every right to fire Williams. They are a private enterprise and they should be allowed to do whatever they want for their business. That said, they screwed the pooch pretty badly by firing Williams. They've gone to show just how intolerant they are, they've polarized the nation to the degree that many liberals are even denouncing their move...and finally they will likely lose their federal funding (which they shouldn't be getting anyway, but only amounts to 1.5ish% of their budget).

Williams, on the other hand, has come out of this with buzz, support and even a pretty hefty paycheck.

Let's try putting our big-boy thinking caps on and not allow political motives cloud the subject.

Finally, Williams was not making derogatory or hateful statements about Muslims. He was expressing a feeling. A feeling that many, if not most, have had at some point or another. He just admitted it.
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US Army Specialist and Muslim Kareem Rashad Sultan Kha... thank you for dying for YOUR country...
ppl seem to forget the very basics our country was founded upon... we used to be proud of our melting pot.
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that's 2 times that I've tried to leave a comment and the Neatoramabot requests moderation? maybe it was because I said thank you to the muslim solder by name, for giving the ultimate sacrifice to his country, his life... I'm wondering if it was the word d y i n g that triggered the moderation, or spelling out his full name... hmmmmmmmmm
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Even after 9 years, people still do not understand that the mentality of a few never represent the mentality of everyone.

All the hate against Muslims is just as bad as the hate the terrorists have....
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@c0ldfish

I fail to see where vonskippy was 'express[ing] outrage at the fact that the majority of muslims have not properly "intergrated"'.

S/he was merely stating that while extremist Muslims do not represent all Muslims, neither do Muslims who have integrated themselves into Western culture.
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...it consistently amazes me the propensity ignorance has for lumping like people into groups, then mongering fear and expecting others (hopefully not quite as ignorant) to jump on the fear bandwagon...frankly when i am flying horrid perfume, dangerously out of style polyester that doesnt breathe, tall hair and birkenstocks with dirty toes peeking out strike fear in me
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I don't know the whole story about this guy being fired, but it sounds to me like he was fired for expressing feelings that no doubt many people share (rightly or wrongly).

I think I would be nevrous sitting next to a guy in a Star Trek outfit or military fatigues on a plane.

Miss C, did you have no examples of Muslim women to show us?
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1, What Williams said was not hate. If you listen to his whole statement he is calling for the exact opposite.

2. There is no wave of Muslim hatred in America. Yes, there is concern, but hatred? The number of violent incidents directed at Muslims in the USA is so insignificant at to be a blip. Don't believe me? Find some on the evening news if you can because if they were happening we'd know it.
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Guess I am the only one who is interested in how the Prince of Jordan got on Star Trek TNG, rather than the comments of someone in the media.
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"integrated themselves way more then most into western civilization..."

Western Civilization? I'd be hard pressed to believe you know what Western Civilization is let alone judge how well other people are pulling it off.

Being a "good Muslim" doesn't mean wearing Western clothes. The idea isn't just to point out that there are "good Muslims" who wear Chino pants. The idea is that there is no "Muslim Look" so you can't decide one person is a "threat" based on how they're dressed. Who is to say all of these folks are "good Muslims"?? They're just representing the diversity in image of the religion, not a diversity in ideology.
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Miss Cellania,

Wow.. 'gee queue' leaves a lengthy and reasonable response and you choose one insignificant line to respond to with a pithy retort?!

How about you read the history of NPR and learn that other than public funding to create NPR in the 1970's, it was started by a coalition of 90 or so for-profit radio stations and has never been "Public" and is not owned in any way by American citizens.

Maybe you should realize what "NPR" stands for
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I always thought it stood for National Public Radio. They even announce it that way. Is there some secret name for it that I am unaware of?? like Nuclear Posture Review. Northern Pacific Railroad. ???
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@Miss Cellania,
That is part of the problem. People are under the impression that NPR is a non-profit organization funded by the government. It is neither. It receives a very small chunk of its budget from the government.

It is a for-profit private enterprise.

Just like the US Chamber of Commerce is NOT government. The Federal Reserve Bank is NOT government.
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One last comment.

I think the idea that we have to qualify every statement which is directed at the segment of the Muslim population that is the problem is dumb.

The left loves throwing hateful and divisive commentary at radical right wing religious nutjobs but they don't qualify their statements...mainly because we all understand that they are talking about the Westboro Baptist Church folks, not the rest of them.

Let's quit being disingenuous and try to pick knits and start having an honest discourse about subjects.
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I actually just read the "About" on that blog. It was about as ignorant as he was claiming Williams was.

Williams never made a statement saying he could identify all Muslims because of their garb. He was saying that when he gets on a flight and sees Muslims in Muslim garb (let's not pretend we don't know what that is), he gets nervous.

I think it is disgusting how people are so willing to paint someone as a racist.
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Juan Williams was talking about seeing people in full on Muslim dress on airplanes. Not dressed in Trekkie outfits. So the context of this post doesn't really relate to what he said.

Frankly, so far terrorists go out of their way to avoid being noticed, so they try to dress like everyone else. The 9/11 hijackers tried to dress like yuppies.

It isn't the people dressed as Muslims you have to fear, it's everyone else. :)
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Let's adopt sharia just long enough to clear out those who confuse "tolerance" with cultural suicide, then move on to a brighter future sans the few, proud, and squishy...
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Well, The MOST important thing people missed is the fact that he said that he FELT nervous seeing Muslims (American or not) on a plane in traditional attire...indicating that (for him) this signalled that they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslim.

Why are his comments any different than those we hear about peoples reactions to seeing the CONFEDERATE flag displayed or the OFFICIALLY ACKNOWLEDGED and condoned suspiscion of MILITIA members or the comments that TEA PARTY members are racist and violent?

This is a villification of Juan Williams for expressing himself and not obeying and adhering to the tenets of Political Correctness.
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JoejoeSing...don't kid yourself. The network makes plenty of profit.

Being a not-for-profit organization and not making a profit don't exactly go hand and hand anymore.
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@B.M. Loose Change has been debunked more times than a hoo...you get the idea.

Seriously, Google is your friend. It might lead you to a well respected engineering magazine with a long history of accuracy and in depth reporting. That magazine went through Loose Change argument by argument and debunked them all.

There are numerous arguments made by the Loose Change guys that can be defeated without an engineering degree and by using the hundreds of videos and thousands of photographs available on the internet.

It would seem we should hold a funeral for a little thing called critical thinking.
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Thanks for the link to the woman, Miss C. We usually see Muslim women presented in the media as hidden behind veils.

I went to the article, and found it objectionable for its vitriol. It didn't seem as much of a positive site as it seemed a "nyah-nyah, so there" site, while completely sidestepping the original point.

I found Jerse's comments funny. I remember a long time ago on this site Jerse's intolerant comments towards a specific group. I also remember working with an intelligent young Muslim who claimed Sept 11 was a Jewish conspiracy. I think we all have our biases, and being PC about just one type is very dangerous.
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A good idea for the tolerant guys would be to go to a muslim country.

All Americans are hated and treated badly. Hate speech is standard.

Men and women do not wear western clothes.

Don't be hateful but don't be naive either.
See it with you own eyes.
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Miss Celania, I usually find your posts to be tempered, if usually agnostic. This time, not so much. Gee Queue's comments are astute, mature and decent-hearted.

When a friend tells you he was bitten by a koala as a child, so everytime he sees koalas now, he gets nervous and fearful, do you scold him for assuming all koalas would bite him? Maybe you show him some compassion and ask him to share more?

Juan Williams wasn't being a jerk, he was being human. He was punished for being honest about his fears. Way to teach the kids what we really think of honesty.

Any decent and sensitive Muslim will understand Juan's feelings and will not hold them against him or America.

NPR long ago became a misnomer.
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