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Gauldar
Goes to show that even courtesy visits involve business.
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2002-11/a-2002-11-22-33-Bush.cf m?moddate=2002-11-22
Johnny Cat
I knew before clicking that this would be a Brian Ross story. He kicks butt at finding stuff like this.
Foreigner1
The world is getting smaller and more and more see-through- Even the U.S.-CIA isn’t untouchable anymore…
Gauldar
@deedeelo
That’s right, generalise a whole country under one category, goes to show how great a person you are.
zeytoun
well, in all fairness, each of us as Americans (myself included) paid the CIA to do this.
Just like the government officials like plausible deniability when it comes to most unpleasant stuff; we the public like plausible deniability when it comes to our goverment’s goings on.
We, the people, could very easily insist on real transparency, and our idea of proper behavior, if even 1/2 of us were so inclined.
pwscott
Hmmmm….. I’ll just say I’m not surprised. Maybe that won’t offend. 
Bryan C
this is why i hate america
Spare me, friend. Pick any country, any leader, any timeframe, and you’ll find exactly the same practices. But generally far more brutal, far more politically driven, and far less effective. War is a messy business.
The reason why you’re reading about an American secret prison instead of a similar facility operated by countries like France or Italy or Qatar is because nobody much gets off on hating France or Italy or Qatar. Well, that and the fact that America doesn’t have a habit of assassinating or disappearing pesky journalists who write articles about secret prisons. Unlike, say, Russia or China.
elcat
we’re going to be stepping in these Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld droppings for the next 30 years…
neilo
As far as I’m concerned I’m proud that we “torture” terrorists. Ever since the Chechnya school massacre I’ve got a whole new perspective of what we need to do to these people. It’s not enough in my opinion.
Sandman
@elcat
“we’re going to be stepping in these Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld droppings for the next 30 years…”
Wow. Clever. Never seen someone put down the previous administration before. I hate to break it to you and all of your friends, but your Almighty Obama isn’t doing much of anything these days. I would rather have the residual effects of the previous administration actually accomplishing something by getting sensitive information out of terrorists than the current administration attempting to get everyone to hold hands.
Wake up my friend, the world is an ugly place.
Aussie
@dutchboy
“You are saying that on an American blog”
Is this really an American blog? Or is the internet international? Seriously, you Americans can be so self-centred sometimes. I’m sure thousands of people from other countries (such as myself) read this blog.
Cola
…where they interrogated (or tortured, your choice of word)…
I’m not okay with that being a matter of opinion. Words have meanings and if I were to be tortured, I wouldn’t want my case thrown out of court because someone could just as easily say I was only interrogated. In a court of law, it matters what word you use. I mean, oh my goodness, has no one read 1984?
Either they were tortured or they were interrogated and we all have to live with that.
Cola
Neilo, let’s just hope you’re never wrongfully accused of something like that. People like yourself will just assume you deserve it and no one will help you before it’s too late to save yourself from a lifetime of flashbacks.
Of course, that’s always the assumption of the cowardly and the naive.
AnthonyC
“We, the people, could very easily insist on real transparency, and our idea of proper behavior, if even 1/2 of us were so inclined.”
Yes, we could do it, but it wouldn’t be easy. We would need (over the course of 6 years) to oust every member of congress, and elect people who are intelligent, far-sighted, honest, and able to stand up to tremendous lobbying pressure. We would need the cooperation of a very large, ignorant fraction of the population to get a whole lot smarter and more interested in the wider world.
It should be easy, but so should solving most of the rest of our problems (poverty; global warming; access to education, water and food; and whatnot). All the legal, technological, and scientific solutions exist, but people are irrational (in ways sometimes good, sometimes bad) and fallible, and that holds everything up.
Robin
No, people don’t get to pick the words they would rather use. That’s part of the problem. If it wss torture when the Nazis, or the Vietnamese, or the Chinese did it, it’s torture when we did it. I’m sick of people trying to whitewash this issue. And for the folks who think “What’s so bad? They’re terrorists”, some of them were not. Some of them confessed *because* they were tortured, just like people confessed to being witches in the Middle Ages. We never learn from history, do we?
Robert
they probably have those every where thats why america is cool we keep shit secret
jm1656
thanks to GWB the USA was safe, now people are killing our citizens on our own land. America, love it or leave it.
deedeelo
dutchboy
sc0tty
