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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Descent From Antiquity&#8221; &#8211; Genetic Trivia, or a Profound Truth?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you even post things like this, what a joke..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you even post things like this, what a joke..</p>
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		<title>By: Another Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fran -- you are right.

Or to paraphrase, &quot;the nut fell far from the tree.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fran &#8212; you are right.</p>
<p>Or to paraphrase, &#8220;the nut fell far from the tree.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Fran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being related to all those presidents and he still can&#039;t accomplish anything presidential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being related to all those presidents and he still can&#8217;t accomplish anything presidential.</p>
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		<title>By: whitcwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitcwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never understood the pride people take in finding out an ancestor was famous or was a passenger on the Mayflower. We can&#039;t take the blame or get the  credit for the actions of those who preceded us. 

Zeytoun, 10% sounds way too high. It implies that most women are cheating on their husbands since not every liason leads to pregnancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never understood the pride people take in finding out an ancestor was famous or was a passenger on the Mayflower. We can&#8217;t take the blame or get the  credit for the actions of those who preceded us. </p>
<p>Zeytoun, 10% sounds way too high. It implies that most women are cheating on their husbands since not every liason leads to pregnancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Skipweasel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skipweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10407460
suggests that at least in one population the estimate of 10% isn&#039;t far off.

While this study from Switzerland...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7860087
gives a much lower value for their population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10407460" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10407460</a><br />
suggests that at least in one population the estimate of 10% isn&#8217;t far off.</p>
<p>While this study from Switzerland&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7860087" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7860087</a><br />
gives a much lower value for their population.</p>
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		<title>By: Shurik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shurik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im gonna go and back the 10 percent bastard births and chastise the made up statistics guy for making shit up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im gonna go and back the 10 percent bastard births and chastise the made up statistics guy for making shit up</p>
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		<title>By: Skipweasel</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/10/30/descent-from-antiquity-genetic-trivia-or-a-profound-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-1881823</link>
		<dc:creator>Skipweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Family Tree&quot; is always a very self-centered phrase. Rather, think of it as a family thicket, intertwined with everyone else&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Family Tree&#8221; is always a very self-centered phrase. Rather, think of it as a family thicket, intertwined with everyone else&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: felixthecat</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/10/30/descent-from-antiquity-genetic-trivia-or-a-profound-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-1881606</link>
		<dc:creator>felixthecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On average, 10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father.&quot;

Sperm Wars, Robin Baker

&quot;Consider this: on average, 90% of unsourced statistics are made up.&quot;

Defensive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On average, 10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sperm Wars, Robin Baker</p>
<p>&#8220;Consider this: on average, 90% of unsourced statistics are made up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Defensive?</p>
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		<title>By: Foreigner1</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/10/30/descent-from-antiquity-genetic-trivia-or-a-profound-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-1881578</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreigner1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew it I knew it!!! - Y&#039;all are distant cuzzez of mine!!! - We&#039;re all related and that&#039;s why we all feel so comfy cozy around here.

...Oh Darn I&#039;m Dutch so that doesn&#039;t fly for me if you all are English...... Well in that case surely Van Buren must be family of mine in some way or form.

... Oh wait if we go back even futher, some of my anscestors went to England in the time of the Daneland so I still must have lots of relatives over Yonder and then indirectly also in the America&#039;s (apart from the confirmed members that went there during the late 1890&#039;s and early 1900&#039;s and just after WW2...).

And if we go back even before that, undoubtedly during the time of the Great Migrations there must have been common anscestors. 

And even before that during the days of Cro Magnon or befor that during Australopithecus-Days..........

:lol: Hello there Exended Family!!!! :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew it I knew it!!! &#8211; Y&#8217;all are distant cuzzez of mine!!! &#8211; We&#8217;re all related and that&#8217;s why we all feel so comfy cozy around here.</p>
<p>&#8230;Oh Darn I&#8217;m Dutch so that doesn&#8217;t fly for me if you all are English&#8230;&#8230; Well in that case surely Van Buren must be family of mine in some way or form.</p>
<p>&#8230; Oh wait if we go back even futher, some of my anscestors went to England in the time of the Daneland so I still must have lots of relatives over Yonder and then indirectly also in the America&#8217;s (apart from the confirmed members that went there during the late 1890&#8242;s and early 1900&#8242;s and just after WW2&#8230;).</p>
<p>And if we go back even before that, undoubtedly during the time of the Great Migrations there must have been common anscestors. </p>
<p>And even before that during the days of Cro Magnon or befor that during Australopithecus-Days&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  Hello there Exended Family!!!! <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: werD</title>
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		<dc:creator>werD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father?

Consider this: on average, 90% of unsourced statistics are made up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father?</p>
<p>Consider this: on average, 90% of unsourced statistics are made up.</p>
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		<title>By: Stymie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stymie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, sounds a wee bit &#039;fishy&#039; to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, sounds a wee bit &#8216;fishy&#8217; to me.</p>
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		<title>By: wigglesPEsquire</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigglesPEsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So he&#039;s not a Van Buren boy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he&#8217;s not a Van Buren boy?</p>
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		<title>By: fredsnothere</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredsnothere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow all the branches in between you&#039;ll probably find yourself in Hitler&#039;s mother&#039;s womb as well.  Follow a few others and you&#039;ll probably find Ted Bundy and Josef Stalin too.  Go back far enough and everyone&#039;s a monkey&#039;s uncle.  Booya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow all the branches in between you&#8217;ll probably find yourself in Hitler&#8217;s mother&#8217;s womb as well.  Follow a few others and you&#8217;ll probably find Ted Bundy and Josef Stalin too.  Go back far enough and everyone&#8217;s a monkey&#8217;s uncle.  Booya!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/10/30/descent-from-antiquity-genetic-trivia-or-a-profound-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-1881386</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cue the Martin Van Buren haters in 3...2...1..

Seriously though, nice article.  Provokes thought that should be basic understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cue the Martin Van Buren haters in 3&#8230;2&#8230;1..</p>
<p>Seriously though, nice article.  Provokes thought that should be basic understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: tr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really ironic at all.  The Prominent Citizens of the english colonies were peppered liberally with cadet branches of the British ruling class.  In time the colonial upper crust became the early U.S. upper crust, which has proven to be about as stable as that of most societies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really ironic at all.  The Prominent Citizens of the english colonies were peppered liberally with cadet branches of the British ruling class.  In time the colonial upper crust became the early U.S. upper crust, which has proven to be about as stable as that of most societies.</p>
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		<title>By: eni</title>
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		<dc:creator>eni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic that all our presidents are descended from an English king...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic that all our presidents are descended from an English king&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zeytoun</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeytoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider this:

On average, 10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father.

In other words, going back further than 10 generations means that it is more probable that you are NOT related to the ancestor, with increasing probability, the further you go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider this:</p>
<p>On average, 10% of people were not sired by the person they believe is their father.</p>
<p>In other words, going back further than 10 generations means that it is more probable that you are NOT related to the ancestor, with increasing probability, the further you go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wit of a twit</title>
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		<dc:creator>wit of a twit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is one thing that has bothered me about genealogy/ family trees. There are so many tpeople that came together to form a family and or descended from a common ancestor. Knowing that people still like to focus on the one individual that was different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is one thing that has bothered me about genealogy/ family trees. There are so many tpeople that came together to form a family and or descended from a common ancestor. Knowing that people still like to focus on the one individual that was different.</p>
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		<title>By: Flux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure, somehow, he&#039;s also related to Kevin Bacon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure, somehow, he&#8217;s also related to Kevin Bacon.</p>
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