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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wait an hour in line for anything?</description>
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		<title>By: astrodex</title>
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		<dc:creator>astrodex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just for ADHD. My 9 year old son has a mood disorder that that is very different from ADHD. When we mentioned to his psychiatrist that we would be going to Disney for a week she asked if we wanted a letter from her so he wouldn&#039;t have to wait in line. I thought she was joking but she wasn&#039;t. I&#039;m proud to say that my son decided on his own that he wouldn&#039;t need the letter. I will, however, say it was a relief to me just knowing it was a possibility. Just in case we got there and he couldn&#039;t handle it. I think the main problem with this system would be the number of people using it who shouldn&#039;t be. All children should be expected to perform to their abilities. But no child should be expected to do something, that for him or her, is impossible. Some kids have very serious disabilities that simply do not present themselves so obviously as blindness or deafness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just for ADHD. My 9 year old son has a mood disorder that that is very different from ADHD. When we mentioned to his psychiatrist that we would be going to Disney for a week she asked if we wanted a letter from her so he wouldn&#8217;t have to wait in line. I thought she was joking but she wasn&#8217;t. I&#8217;m proud to say that my son decided on his own that he wouldn&#8217;t need the letter. I will, however, say it was a relief to me just knowing it was a possibility. Just in case we got there and he couldn&#8217;t handle it. I think the main problem with this system would be the number of people using it who shouldn&#8217;t be. All children should be expected to perform to their abilities. But no child should be expected to do something, that for him or her, is impossible. Some kids have very serious disabilities that simply do not present themselves so obviously as blindness or deafness.</p>
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		<title>By: paul randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seventh I have &quot;real&quot; ADD and I appreciate your empathy for people with this diagnosis. However ADD is most certainly not brain damage. It is a difference in the brain. but then everyone is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seventh I have &#8220;real&#8221; ADD and I appreciate your empathy for people with this diagnosis. However ADD is most certainly not brain damage. It is a difference in the brain. but then everyone is different.</p>
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		<title>By: Seventh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seventh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, maybe &#039;damage&#039; was a strong word but &quot;its a miscommunication in the receiving and sending of messages&quot; certainly sounds like a physical mistake in biology [rather than a chosen behaviour] to me. My point was that it&#039;s a biological disorder, not a psychological &#039;beat it out of them&#039; behaviour. 

and i think people are missing the main point of the whole scheme. they queue-jumping isn&#039;t to help the ADHD/autistic kids, it&#039;s to stop the rest of the queuers from being driving insane by them. The scheme is helping everyone else out!

And as for &quot;why inflict queues on them in the first place&quot;, this is an idea to allow ADHD and autistic kids, who otherwise would NOT be able to go and enjoy the park, to visit it and have a fun day like a normal kid for once, instead of being locked up at home for their behaviour. it&#039;s making an allowance so they CAN go. 

and zeroxero: sure, a DS might keep our kid entertained for 15 minutes. but two hours? standing in line shuffling along? no way. You&#039;re obviously coping well with it. Our kid is not as far along that path. We&#039;re working hard with him, but its a slow process, especially when we have to work so hard at getting him up to normal in so many other aspects. why should he always be left out when his whole class are treated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, maybe &#8216;damage&#8217; was a strong word but &#8220;its a miscommunication in the receiving and sending of messages&#8221; certainly sounds like a physical mistake in biology [rather than a chosen behaviour] to me. My point was that it&#8217;s a biological disorder, not a psychological &#8216;beat it out of them&#8217; behaviour. </p>
<p>and i think people are missing the main point of the whole scheme. they queue-jumping isn&#8217;t to help the ADHD/autistic kids, it&#8217;s to stop the rest of the queuers from being driving insane by them. The scheme is helping everyone else out!</p>
<p>And as for &#8220;why inflict queues on them in the first place&#8221;, this is an idea to allow ADHD and autistic kids, who otherwise would NOT be able to go and enjoy the park, to visit it and have a fun day like a normal kid for once, instead of being locked up at home for their behaviour. it&#8217;s making an allowance so they CAN go. </p>
<p>and zeroxero: sure, a DS might keep our kid entertained for 15 minutes. but two hours? standing in line shuffling along? no way. You&#8217;re obviously coping well with it. Our kid is not as far along that path. We&#8217;re working hard with him, but its a slow process, especially when we have to work so hard at getting him up to normal in so many other aspects. why should he always be left out when his whole class are treated?</p>
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		<title>By: zeroxero</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeroxero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey seventh its not friggin brain damage you idiot. its a miscommunication in the receiving and sending of messages in the brain receptors. as a person with ADHD, i do agree that they should wait because it will bound to happen somewhere else. as for what to do, the kid needs a stimuli. so talking with friends, play some thumb war, or even let the kid entertain him/herself with a ds wouldnt be a bad idea. my 0.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey seventh its not friggin brain damage you idiot. its a miscommunication in the receiving and sending of messages in the brain receptors. as a person with ADHD, i do agree that they should wait because it will bound to happen somewhere else. as for what to do, the kid needs a stimuli. so talking with friends, play some thumb war, or even let the kid entertain him/herself with a ds wouldnt be a bad idea. my 0.02</p>
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		<title>By: Willington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;because they cannot cope with the stress of waiting&quot;

I can&#039;t cope with the stress of waiting in a line with annoying kids.  Can I skip to the front, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;because they cannot cope with the stress of waiting&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t cope with the stress of waiting in a line with annoying kids.  Can I skip to the front, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with Lostfiniel.
Although my first reaction would be that it all depends on the number of ADHD kids + friends out there. I can accept letting some people in front of me, but I don&#039;t want to wait an extra half an hour at each ride because a bunch of kids brought their ADHD friend to cut the lines ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Lostfiniel.<br />
Although my first reaction would be that it all depends on the number of ADHD kids + friends out there. I can accept letting some people in front of me, but I don&#8217;t want to wait an extra half an hour at each ride because a bunch of kids brought their ADHD friend to cut the lines <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lostfiniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lostfiniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know much about ADHD children. I&#039;ve never been exposed much to ADHD and I won&#039;t claim I know better than anyone else.

However, if it is true that waiting in long lines is physically painful for ADHD children, why would the parents put them through it? There are ways to get around just sitting and waiting. 

Go to the park during low season or on a weekday.
Head to the popular rides when there are less people in the park and less popular rides when it is crowded. 

As a camp counselor, we had a ton of games up our sleeves to keep kids from being bored at any point. Playing rock, paper, scissors over and over would be boring, but mixing up games will keep everyone&#039;s mind off the waiting. Lines can also be a good time for snacking and making sure everyone is hydrated and sun-blocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about ADHD children. I&#8217;ve never been exposed much to ADHD and I won&#8217;t claim I know better than anyone else.</p>
<p>However, if it is true that waiting in long lines is physically painful for ADHD children, why would the parents put them through it? There are ways to get around just sitting and waiting. </p>
<p>Go to the park during low season or on a weekday.<br />
Head to the popular rides when there are less people in the park and less popular rides when it is crowded. </p>
<p>As a camp counselor, we had a ton of games up our sleeves to keep kids from being bored at any point. Playing rock, paper, scissors over and over would be boring, but mixing up games will keep everyone&#8217;s mind off the waiting. Lines can also be a good time for snacking and making sure everyone is hydrated and sun-blocked.</p>
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		<title>By: jermH</title>
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		<dc:creator>jermH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The arguments above must consider the information (lacking from the caption) that medical certification is necessary. This should hopefully ensure that only the truly afflicted will use the scheme (to the benefit of all) rather than encourage rampant queue-jumping by the impatient and irresponsible. Whether the certification is too easy to get then depends on what the situation in the UK is like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arguments above must consider the information (lacking from the caption) that medical certification is necessary. This should hopefully ensure that only the truly afflicted will use the scheme (to the benefit of all) rather than encourage rampant queue-jumping by the impatient and irresponsible. Whether the certification is too easy to get then depends on what the situation in the UK is like.</p>
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		<title>By: aftershock</title>
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		<dc:creator>aftershock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the world coming to?  What ever happened to some good ol&#039; fashioned discipline?</description>
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		<title>By: Him</title>
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		<dc:creator>Him</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They do the same thing for kids with Autism.</description>
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		<title>By: Seventh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seventh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh! one last thing. you can&#039;t just waltz up and say &quot;I have ADHD, lemme go in first&quot; you need extensive medical certification and ID as proof. my parents took loads of paperwork and still found it hard to talk the park into handing over the pass. they don&#039;t give them out lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh! one last thing. you can&#8217;t just waltz up and say &#8220;I have ADHD, lemme go in first&#8221; you need extensive medical certification and ID as proof. my parents took loads of paperwork and still found it hard to talk the park into handing over the pass. they don&#8217;t give them out lightly.</p>
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		<title>By: Seventh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seventh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents are full-time foster carers of disturbed and damaged children. They currently have an 11 year old who has pretty severe ADHD, and yes, when they took him to an amusement park, they took advantage of the queue-jump system. 

Why? Because the rides have queues for hours. He physically CANNOT stand there doing nothing for hours. he can barely manage it for minutes. And it isn&#039;t HIM who would be bothered by his incessant talking, twitching, pacing, prodding, shacking, rattling or whatever. it&#039;s all the poor people who are forced to stand near him in the queue. And believe me, after a few minutes of it, you&#039;d be more than happy to let him take a place ahead of you if it meant he would go away from you.

How is it fair to keep him at home and deny him a treat for good school results [his whole class got taken to the amusement park for good test results]? He is brain damaged. So that means he can&#039;t have fun and live a normal life?

He is perfectly &#039;controlled&#039;. He is not a bad child, wouldn&#039;t hurt anyone, wouldn&#039;t attack anyone or steal anything. He does what he&#039;s told and tries his hardest to be good. He&#039;s just BLOODY annoying, despite the drugs he&#039;s on to calm him down. 

As for &#039;they&#039;ll have to wait at some point&#039;, I totally agree. this is very true. and we work very hard to lengthen the time he can wait and to say no when appropriate and to put delays on things to teach him more about time management. But those queues are LONG. not uncommon to wait two or three hours. And we&#039;d rather teach him those things in a safe, private home environment than force him to break down into a sobbing twitching heap in the middle of a crowded area. 

REAL ADHD is very dramatic. it&#039;s more than just being a bit impatient or a bit excitable. It&#039;s permanent brain damage and a real disability. Would you force someone on crutches to stand and hobble the whole two hours through the queue? 

YES, it seems unfair to the healthy kids. but LIFE has been unfair to the disabled kids, give them a fucking break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents are full-time foster carers of disturbed and damaged children. They currently have an 11 year old who has pretty severe ADHD, and yes, when they took him to an amusement park, they took advantage of the queue-jump system. </p>
<p>Why? Because the rides have queues for hours. He physically CANNOT stand there doing nothing for hours. he can barely manage it for minutes. And it isn&#8217;t HIM who would be bothered by his incessant talking, twitching, pacing, prodding, shacking, rattling or whatever. it&#8217;s all the poor people who are forced to stand near him in the queue. And believe me, after a few minutes of it, you&#8217;d be more than happy to let him take a place ahead of you if it meant he would go away from you.</p>
<p>How is it fair to keep him at home and deny him a treat for good school results [his whole class got taken to the amusement park for good test results]? He is brain damaged. So that means he can&#8217;t have fun and live a normal life?</p>
<p>He is perfectly &#8216;controlled&#8217;. He is not a bad child, wouldn&#8217;t hurt anyone, wouldn&#8217;t attack anyone or steal anything. He does what he&#8217;s told and tries his hardest to be good. He&#8217;s just BLOODY annoying, despite the drugs he&#8217;s on to calm him down. </p>
<p>As for &#8216;they&#8217;ll have to wait at some point&#8217;, I totally agree. this is very true. and we work very hard to lengthen the time he can wait and to say no when appropriate and to put delays on things to teach him more about time management. But those queues are LONG. not uncommon to wait two or three hours. And we&#8217;d rather teach him those things in a safe, private home environment than force him to break down into a sobbing twitching heap in the middle of a crowded area. </p>
<p>REAL ADHD is very dramatic. it&#8217;s more than just being a bit impatient or a bit excitable. It&#8217;s permanent brain damage and a real disability. Would you force someone on crutches to stand and hobble the whole two hours through the queue? </p>
<p>YES, it seems unfair to the healthy kids. but LIFE has been unfair to the disabled kids, give them a fucking break.</p>
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		<title>By: Flux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what about fat people? They get stressed standing around, I&#039;m sure.
Same for old people, or people who hate crowds, have claustrophobia, or people that dislike lines, or people that have a sense of self entitlement. I&#039;m sure these self entitled people would feel rather stressed to think that they are cattle just like everyone else.
By treating someone different and giving them special privileges, you are, in fact discriminating against someone else without said magical difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what about fat people? They get stressed standing around, I&#8217;m sure.<br />
Same for old people, or people who hate crowds, have claustrophobia, or people that dislike lines, or people that have a sense of self entitlement. I&#8217;m sure these self entitled people would feel rather stressed to think that they are cattle just like everyone else.<br />
By treating someone different and giving them special privileges, you are, in fact discriminating against someone else without said magical difference.</p>
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		<title>By: felixthecat</title>
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		<dc:creator>felixthecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep &#039;em home if they cannot be controlled, then. Wait! Im going to England again soon! I can work this to my amoral advantage.</description>
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		<title>By: Skipweasel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skipweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;yer know - one of the things that makes /real/ AD-HD kids different is their inability to learn to control their impulses.

Saying &quot;Make them wait and learn from it.&quot; is like saying &quot;Don&#039;t speak up and clearly for a deaf person, just keep mumbling and they&#039;ll have to learn.&quot;

That doesn&#039;t mean I agree with this idea - just that if you&#039;ve ever had anything to do with the real thing you wouldn&#039;t think it&#039;s OK to wait for a hour in a line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;yer know &#8211; one of the things that makes /real/ AD-HD kids different is their inability to learn to control their impulses.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;Make them wait and learn from it.&#8221; is like saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t speak up and clearly for a deaf person, just keep mumbling and they&#8217;ll have to learn.&#8221;</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean I agree with this idea &#8211; just that if you&#8217;ve ever had anything to do with the real thing you wouldn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s OK to wait for a hour in a line.</p>
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		<title>By: christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are very few people who are REALLY ADHD.  Most are just impatient and they need to learn how to discipline thier minds.  Waiting is a good exercise for them.</description>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an alcoholic. I shouldn&#039;t have to wait in line at the liquor store.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan0</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/09/03/got-adhd-skip-the-amusement-park-line/comment-page-1/#comment-1853063</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the teachers.  They&#039;re going to have to wait for something at some point in their life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the teachers.  They&#8217;re going to have to wait for something at some point in their life.</p>
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