Comments on: The Robopocalypse Approaches: Robots Learn to Lie http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:30:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: carl http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1847647 carl Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:12:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/#comment-1847647 Rintrah, I completely agree (especially since you were originally agreeing with me). Their justification comes in that they can make some neat headlines, thus ensuring future grant dollars. Perhaps this is a necessary step towards actual AI (not that I think we should bother) but for heck's sake, why is the media so obsessed with these easily digestible "I knew it!" headlines?! Rintrah, I completely agree (especially since you were originally agreeing with me). Their justification comes in that they can make some neat headlines, thus ensuring future grant dollars. Perhaps this is a necessary step towards actual AI (not that I think we should bother) but for heck’s sake, why is the media so obsessed with these easily digestible “I knew it!” headlines?!

]]> By: Video Game Dork http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1847100 Video Game Dork Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:30:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/#comment-1847100 I'll have to with the others above. AI it really just trickery - making robat seem like they are 'thinking' to (some) humans - and this doesn't change that. I’ll have to with the others above. AI it really just trickery – making robat seem like they are ‘thinking’ to (some) humans – and this doesn’t change that.

]]> By: rintrah http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1846402 rintrah Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:50:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/#comment-1846402 "No, not really. It’s still just a program written by programmers. They told it to sometimes not alert the other robots, and it clocked that there was more food available. They’re not telling lies." ^This. I'm dubious that this is anything more than a sock puppet show between programmers. Any program still necessarily reflects the intent of the programmer. When a programmer arrives at a solution to a problem that its programmer didn't specifically foresee, *then* I'll be impressed. Until then - at ease. Singularity averted. “No, not really. It’s still just a program written by programmers. They told it to sometimes not alert the other robots, and it clocked that there was more food available.

They’re not telling lies.”

^This.

I’m dubious that this is anything more than a sock puppet show between programmers. Any program still necessarily reflects the intent of the programmer. When a programmer arrives at a solution to a problem that its programmer didn’t specifically foresee, *then* I’ll be impressed. Until then – at ease. Singularity averted.

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1846381 Christophe Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:31:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/#comment-1846381 I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. I’m afraid. I’m afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going.

]]> By: carl http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1846342 carl Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:44:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/#comment-1846342 "a measure of autonomy" No, not really. It's still just a program written by programmers. They told it to sometimes not alert the other robots, and it clocked that there was more food available. They're not telling lies. “a measure of autonomy”

No, not really. It’s still just a program written by programmers. They told it to sometimes not alert the other robots, and it clocked that there was more food available.

They’re not telling lies.

]]> By: MadMolecule http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-1846264 MadMolecule Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:51:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/08/20/the-robopocalypse-approaches-robots-learn-to-lie/#comment-1846264 That's rather chilling. That’s rather chilling.

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