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	<title>Comments on: Two Trains Collide Head-On</title>
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		<title>By: Supposed Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supposed Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since someone&#039;s commenting based on partial reads of the report, I&#039;ll comment based on my read of the report... 

The chemical found in the EB train&#039;s crewman was a metabolite of cocaine and it is unknown how long ago the actual cocaine might have been taken or if the person was impaired.

The railroad&#039;s attorney, a government agent, a railmen&#039;s union rep and others were aboard a locomotive that did a reenactment at the same time of day within a short time after the accident which seems to show that the sun was not a factor, according to all who were aboard the loco&#039;. These observations were correlated with calculations from the US Naval Observatory as to the time of sunrise and so on. They were operating in the early morning, and of course the sun rises in the east. According to the sketch the rails run directly north-south, so the Sun is shining perpendicular to the direction the driver would have to look. It&#039;s hard to imagine the sun being much of a factor.

What I don&#039;t understand is how the crew didn&#039;t operate on the assumption that they were meeting another train that they were going to have to wait for. If you&#039;re going to the movies and the traffic light in front of the cinema appears green, you still go into the cinema parking lot, because that is the plan. You don&#039;t go speeding past the cinema because the signal is green. In a similar way, the errant train&#039;s failure to wait seems at odds with the idea that the plan was for that train to wait for the second train before proceeding.

@W. Smith: Full reverse would have worked about as well for the trains as it did for the Titanic. Nice reference though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since someone&#8217;s commenting based on partial reads of the report, I&#8217;ll comment based on my read of the report&#8230; </p>
<p>The chemical found in the EB train&#8217;s crewman was a metabolite of cocaine and it is unknown how long ago the actual cocaine might have been taken or if the person was impaired.</p>
<p>The railroad&#8217;s attorney, a government agent, a railmen&#8217;s union rep and others were aboard a locomotive that did a reenactment at the same time of day within a short time after the accident which seems to show that the sun was not a factor, according to all who were aboard the loco&#8217;. These observations were correlated with calculations from the US Naval Observatory as to the time of sunrise and so on. They were operating in the early morning, and of course the sun rises in the east. According to the sketch the rails run directly north-south, so the Sun is shining perpendicular to the direction the driver would have to look. It&#8217;s hard to imagine the sun being much of a factor.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is how the crew didn&#8217;t operate on the assumption that they were meeting another train that they were going to have to wait for. If you&#8217;re going to the movies and the traffic light in front of the cinema appears green, you still go into the cinema parking lot, because that is the plan. You don&#8217;t go speeding past the cinema because the signal is green. In a similar way, the errant train&#8217;s failure to wait seems at odds with the idea that the plan was for that train to wait for the second train before proceeding.</p>
<p>@W. Smith: Full reverse would have worked about as well for the trains as it did for the Titanic. Nice reference though.</p>
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		<title>By: DarthMoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarthMoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The report shows that the conductor for the east bound train had cocaine in his system.  There is also concern that the angle of the sun made it difficult to see the color of the signal.  I hope the injured crew feel better sooner then later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report shows that the conductor for the east bound train had cocaine in his system.  There is also concern that the angle of the sun made it difficult to see the color of the signal.  I hope the injured crew feel better sooner then later.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chewie!  Lock in the auxiliary power, full reverse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chewie!  Lock in the auxiliary power, full reverse!</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tibo: Thanks for the PDF! The train with the guys who bailed in the video were the ones at fault because they failed to slow or stop for multiple signals. What&#039;s worse is that the injured members of the train with the camera reported that none of the guys who jumped came over to help them after the accident. The reason they didn&#039;t jump was that they were travelling too fast and thought that they might be able to get the engine on to the other track just before being hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tibo: Thanks for the PDF! The train with the guys who bailed in the video were the ones at fault because they failed to slow or stop for multiple signals. What&#8217;s worse is that the injured members of the train with the camera reported that none of the guys who jumped came over to help them after the accident. The reason they didn&#8217;t jump was that they were travelling too fast and thought that they might be able to get the engine on to the other track just before being hit.</p>
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		<title>By: star13</title>
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		<dc:creator>star13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Fatty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Fatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s what I call a real Blue Screen of Death...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s what I call a real Blue Screen of Death&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matthew - we used to have 50 pages in Neatorama&#039;s Front Page, but not for years. It has been 30 posts for quite some time now.

I don&#039;t know why you&#039;re having trouble - Because of the length, Neatorama isn&#039;t easy to load for those without high speed Internet access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matthew &#8211; we used to have 50 pages in Neatorama&#8217;s Front Page, but not for years. It has been 30 posts for quite some time now.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re having trouble &#8211; Because of the length, Neatorama isn&#8217;t easy to load for those without high speed Internet access.</p>
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		<title>By: douche</title>
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		<dc:creator>douche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JimRL

you&#039;re so stupid. just read it and think about it for one second. &quot;crew&quot; does not mean camera crew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimRL</p>
<p>you&#8217;re so stupid. just read it and think about it for one second. &#8220;crew&#8221; does not mean camera crew</p>
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		<title>By: JimRL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimRL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Justin

That&#039;s what I thought until I read.

&#039;...the crews in the train with the camera on board were seriously injured.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Justin</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I thought until I read.</p>
<p>&#8216;&#8230;the crews in the train with the camera on board were seriously injured.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: sc0tty</title>
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		<dc:creator>sc0tty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Tibo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The complete report about this accident is available in pdf.

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2006/hq200648v.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The complete report about this accident is available in pdf.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2006/hq200648v.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2006/hq 200648v.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JimRL: I imagine that this is something similar to a dashboard camera device. I don&#039;t think anyone was just sitting there filming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JimRL: I imagine that this is something similar to a dashboard camera device. I don&#8217;t think anyone was just sitting there filming.</p>
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		<title>By: Foreigner1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foreigner1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the an OOhhhh SH...!!!!-experience or what?

That guy that jumped out- how fast will he had to run when he saw that his train keeled over after him...? 
:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the an OOhhhh SH&#8230;!!!!-experience or what?</p>
<p>That guy that jumped out- how fast will he had to run when he saw that his train keeled over after him&#8230;?<br />
 <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have problems all the time.  One PC is about 7 years old and its impossible on there.  The other is brand new and its still some what difficult with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have problems all the time.  One PC is about 7 years old and its impossible on there.  The other is brand new and its still some what difficult with it.</p>
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		<title>By: JimRL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimRL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problems for me and I have a 4 year old PC plus slow wireless connection, maybe an upgrade is in order Matthew.

Where were the guys who were filming this? I was expecting to hear screaming of some kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems for me and I have a 4 year old PC plus slow wireless connection, maybe an upgrade is in order Matthew.</p>
<p>Where were the guys who were filming this? I was expecting to hear screaming of some kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else having serious issues with this site ever since the front page shows like 50 posts? For me the site is now unviewable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else having serious issues with this site ever since the front page shows like 50 posts? For me the site is now unviewable.</p>
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		<title>By: seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is crazy footage, nice find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is crazy footage, nice find.</p>
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