Comments on: Moths Evolve Sonar Jamming to Outwit Bats http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:38:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dogrun81 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/comment-page-1/#comment-1823184 dogrun81 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:06:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/#comment-1823184 Unintentional evolution...which makes it all the more unlikely that the moth evolved into its sonar jamming at all. Unintentional evolution…which makes it all the more unlikely that the moth evolved into its sonar jamming at all.

]]> By: Kalel http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/comment-page-1/#comment-1823170 Kalel Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:52:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/#comment-1823170 I resent that Lamarck. I resent that Lamarck.

]]> By: Video Game Dork http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/comment-page-1/#comment-1822610 Video Game Dork Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:40:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/#comment-1822610 The wording of this title kind of shows (and propogates) a lack of understand of evolution. Or at least, how the theory is put forth in Darwinism... Things don't evolve for specific purposes... they randomly mutate a trait, and if the trait aids survival and/or reporduction (which is a subset of survival), the trait becomes more wisespread. So.. in this case, the moths didn't really 'evolve to trick bats', but rather, some evolved a trait that happened to trick bat (which aided the propagation of that trait.) The effect is the same, but what is important in undestanding Darwinism is that the evolution of a trait isn't... intentional (or reactionary for that matter). Its random mutation, propogated and/or culled by how that mutation aids or hinders the species. The wording of this title kind of shows (and propogates) a lack of understand of evolution. Or at least, how the theory is put forth in Darwinism…

Things don’t evolve for specific purposes… they randomly mutate a trait, and if the trait aids survival and/or reporduction (which is a subset of survival), the trait becomes more wisespread.

So.. in this case, the moths didn’t really ‘evolve to trick bats’, but rather, some evolved a trait that happened to trick bat (which aided the propagation of that trait.)

The effect is the same, but what is important in undestanding Darwinism is that the evolution of a trait isn’t… intentional (or reactionary for that matter). Its random mutation, propogated and/or culled by how that mutation aids or hinders the species.

]]> By: coconutnut http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/comment-page-1/#comment-1822508 coconutnut Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:21:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/#comment-1822508 Here's a link to a video showing the Tiger Moth's jamming capabilities in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZ2hNZsCuE&feature=channel Here’s a link to a video showing the Tiger Moth’s jamming capabilities in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZ2hNZsCuE&feature=channel

]]> By: Miss Cellania http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/comment-page-1/#comment-1822509 Miss Cellania Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:21:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/#comment-1822509 I know how it is, coconutnut. Fixed. I know how it is, coconutnut. Fixed.

]]> By: coconutnut http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/comment-page-1/#comment-1822507 coconutnut Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:21:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/20/moths-evolve-sonar-jamming-to-outwit-bats/#comment-1822507 please forgive my unnecessary apostrophe in moths. no matter how many times i try to proofread I always find something wrong once i hit submit. please forgive my unnecessary apostrophe in moths. no matter how many times i try to proofread I always find something wrong once i hit submit.

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