Comments on: Who's the Biggest Musical Icon of the Past Century? http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:31:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: mjhuong http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1841279 mjhuong Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:58:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1841279 I agree with Pak MJ is the best. Talent and human being no one can compare with him. He is the artist who gave most for charity and did much for better world. Elvis may sang songs very well, but MJ not only can sing very well but dance, write songs, write books, films produce, choreograph, and innovate. No one is perfect except Michael Jackson. No one is more popular than Michael Jackson.That's the reason why media concentrated on him and built a lot of rumor around him. I agree with Pak
MJ is the best. Talent and human being
no one can compare with him. He is the artist who gave most for charity and did much for better world.
Elvis may sang songs very well, but MJ not only can sing very well but dance, write songs, write books, films produce, choreograph, and innovate. No one is perfect except Michael Jackson. No one is more popular than Michael Jackson.That's the reason why media concentrated on him and built a lot of rumor around him.

]]> By: kenneth http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1829969 kenneth Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:07:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1829969 MJ wins hands down elvis didnt even have a voice and frank sinatra is juss in the dust bin MJ wins hands down
elvis didnt even have a voice
and frank sinatra is juss in the dust bin

]]> By: John H http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1810240 John H Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:48:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1810240 JOHN LENNON > all of these losers JOHN LENNON > all of these losers

]]> By: Spence http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1806962 Spence Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:32:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1806962 Ummmm....There is only who has so many nick-names. Sinatra had it all - singing, acting, sex appeal, a following for 60 years, and I could go on and on. Yes, MJ had a big influence on other artist, but what songs do we really think of that we want to put into a movie? (I'm not a big fan so there may be some and I just don't know). But Sinatra continues to have albums come out and people gobble them up. The last MJ album I bought - Off the Wall. My tastes changed after that but I never felt the urge to ever purchase any of his other albums. Yet as the Sinatra albums continue to come out, I buy each and every one of them as well as buy the older stuff when I come across them. So, IMHO, Sinatra wins - hands down. Ummmm....There is only who has so many nick-names. Sinatra had it all - singing, acting, sex appeal, a following for 60 years, and I could go on and on. Yes, MJ had a big influence on other artist, but what songs do we really think of that we want to put into a movie? (I'm not a big fan so there may be some and I just don't know). But Sinatra continues to have albums come out and people gobble them up. The last MJ album I bought - Off the Wall. My tastes changed after that but I never felt the urge to ever purchase any of his other albums. Yet as the Sinatra albums continue to come out, I buy each and every one of them as well as buy the older stuff when I come across them. So, IMHO, Sinatra wins - hands down.

]]> By: Pak http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1802303 Pak Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:24:06 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1802303 I'm sorry !! I'm even spell "Sinatra" incorrectly (not on purpose)...but that's how much I don't know him... My point is that I'm not in "MUSIC OCCUPATIONAL RELATED" so I might not really know who is the "MUSICAL" icon...but from one general eye view..MJ wins as icon that people knows and admires in my country, all the fact with his help to poor, children, aids, and long list of charity gives him this respect.. I did see many gossips after his charity??..I really dont understand why???...Also, as people keep wondering about the fact with his surgery (either for beauty or health)....Don't get it as well??? As when you die...your body simply get back into the earth..both fresh or plastic do not matter anymore..what's matter is what he has done to the world !!! like his well-written and thoughtful lyrics(PERIOD) I'm sorry !! I'm even spell "Sinatra" incorrectly (not on purpose)...but that's how much I don't know him...

My point is that I'm not in "MUSIC OCCUPATIONAL RELATED" so I might not really know who is the "MUSICAL" icon...but from one general eye view..MJ wins as icon that people knows and admires

in my country, all the fact with his help to poor, children, aids, and long list of charity gives him this respect..

I did see many gossips after his charity??..I really dont understand why???...Also, as people keep wondering about the fact with his surgery (either for beauty or health)....Don't get it as well???

As when you die...your body simply get back into the earth..both fresh or plastic do not matter anymore..what's matter is what he has done to the world !!! like his well-written and thoughtful lyrics(PERIOD)

]]> By: Pak http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1802285 Pak Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:12:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1802285 HersHers..I love your comment My vote to "MJ" of course !! I'm in third world country and yes...everyone knows MJ not Senatra...Elvis is actually popular for 50 yr+ people group only...but MJ..is another story...everyone knows him from my son (and his friend)to my grandma and her friends...That's tell something. I don't know if this is because of media growing stronger nowadays...but he still rank #1 to me. and I'm so glad all his case are cleared before his pass away !!!... Come on...someone (in here) who implys he rapes kids... Have you heard "not guilty until proven???"..and in this case..it's ACTUALLY PROVED AS NOT GUILTY !!! Get over it !!!...Do you think you can judge better than U.S. Court by reading from distant and use your own logic???? HersHers..I love your comment

My vote to "MJ" of course !!

I'm in third world country and yes...everyone knows MJ not Senatra...Elvis is actually popular for 50 yr+ people group only...but MJ..is another story...everyone knows him from my son (and his friend)to my grandma and her friends...That's tell something.

I don't know if this is because of media growing stronger nowadays...but he still rank #1 to me.

and I'm so glad all his case are cleared before his pass away !!!...

Come on...someone (in here) who implys he rapes kids...
Have you heard "not guilty until proven???"..and in this case..it's ACTUALLY PROVED AS NOT GUILTY !!! Get over it !!!...Do you think you can judge better than U.S. Court by reading from distant and use your own logic????

]]> By: michael jordan http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1801042 michael jordan Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:58:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1801042 I don't like the choices. Lennon and McCartney were orders of magnitude better than any of these. And Bing Crosby was 100 times the star that Sinatra was. Open the door to my world. I don't like the choices. Lennon and McCartney were orders of magnitude better than any of these. And Bing Crosby was 100 times the star that Sinatra was. Open the door to my world.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1800406 Darrel Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:02:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1800406 My preferences run toward Sinatra, since Elvis was played far too frequently when I was young, and I never enjoyed MJ's music to the extent of being a fan. I did however, see some references to singing abilities, and wanted to point out that Elvis really did have some amazing pipes. Forget the pop tunes and Vegas show songs he did- take a moment to listen to the range he had in songs like "It's Now or Never", or some of his gospel tracks. He could really belt it out. Sinatra was smooth and silky, a crooner-- two different styles I think. My preferences run toward Sinatra, since Elvis was played far too frequently when I was young, and I never enjoyed MJ's music to the extent of being a fan.
I did however, see some references to singing abilities, and wanted to point out that Elvis really did have some amazing pipes. Forget the pop tunes and Vegas show songs he did- take a moment to listen to the range he had in songs like "It's Now or Never", or some of his gospel tracks. He could really belt it out. Sinatra was smooth and silky, a crooner-- two different styles I think.

]]> By: King of Pop http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1800395 King of Pop Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:45:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1800395 Michael, hands down. All entertainers now take after him. He's the most recognizable icon in the whole world (not just north america). Michael, hands down. All entertainers now take after him. He's the most recognizable icon in the whole world (not just north america).

]]> By: marcusbacus http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1800387 marcusbacus Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:26:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1800387 "comparing apples to oranges" And Michael is neither. There are too many other icons missing here. "comparing apples to oranges"
And Michael is neither.
There are too many other icons missing here.

]]> By: nemo http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1800358 nemo Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:30:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1800358 To really judge this, you need to be familiar with music from the whole of the 20th century. I'd say that the biggest musical icon of the 20th century was Louis Armstrong, by far. His popularity and influence were far greater than any of those others mentioned when considered over the whole of the 20th c. Second probably Gershwin, you might not know that you know his tunes, but you do. For a guy with such a short career, he had a huge impact. After him, the next forty years of music were all heavily influenced by him, and his songs are still Jazz standards today. For a third I'd go with Duke Ellington. He was a giant in his day, and I agree with K*T that he's a strong contender for the title of the greatest songwriter of the 20th C. He started in the 20s and was still releasing major records in the 50s and 60s. Fourth, I'd go with either Frankie or Bing Crosby. Both were huge for more decades of the 20th C. than Elvis, the Beatles, or MJ. Between Elvis and the Beatles it's hard to say who was bigger, but I think both were bigger than MJ. To really judge this, you need to be familiar with music from the whole of the 20th century.

I'd say that the biggest musical icon of the 20th century was Louis Armstrong, by far. His popularity and influence were far greater than any of those others mentioned when considered over the whole of the 20th c.

Second probably Gershwin, you might not know that you know his tunes, but you do. For a guy with such a short career, he had a huge impact. After him, the next forty years of music were all heavily influenced by him, and his songs are still Jazz standards today.

For a third I'd go with Duke Ellington. He was a giant in his day, and I agree with K*T that he's a strong contender for the title of the greatest songwriter of the 20th C. He started in the 20s and was still releasing major records in the 50s and 60s.

Fourth, I'd go with either Frankie or Bing Crosby. Both were huge for more decades of the 20th C. than Elvis, the Beatles, or MJ.

Between Elvis and the Beatles it's hard to say who was bigger, but I think both were bigger than MJ.

]]> By: Reechard http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1800203 Reechard Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:19:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1800203 I think George Carlin said it best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uC8LSV-j2g (NSFW language) I think George Carlin said it best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uC8LSV-j2g (NSFW language)

]]> By: seefish3 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1800191 seefish3 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:53:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1800191 You have to give Alex credit for these middle-of-the-road photo choices. None of them are particularly flattering, but certainly not the worst possible examples, either. You have to give Alex credit for these middle-of-the-road photo choices. None of them are particularly flattering, but certainly not the worst possible examples, either.

]]> By: Ronald L. http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1800041 Ronald L. Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:26:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1800041 Yeah, I strongly suspect that older white males would go for Sinatra (completely understable). But objectively assessing and considering the size of the crowds that attend MJ's concerts, his quirks, his style, his songwriting and dancing abilities, MJ is more iconic. But Elvis and Sinatra are also up there. Yeah, I strongly suspect that older white males would go for Sinatra (completely understable). But objectively assessing and considering the size of the crowds that attend MJ's concerts, his quirks, his style, his songwriting and dancing abilities, MJ is more iconic. But Elvis and Sinatra are also up there.

]]> By: mmm http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799995 mmm Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:33:08 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799995 I was right. I was right.

]]> By: K'LAJH http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799988 K'LAJH Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:21:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799988 How can you guys even think for a second that Sinatra or Elvis are more iconis than Michael Freakin Jackson. Maybe their is a generational gap between me and the majority of the posters on here but Sinatra and Elvis' song stealing ass have nothing on MJ. He's Michael Jackson. Elvis? Are you serious. I can consider Sinatra at least arguable, but Elvis? You guys have to be playing. How can you guys even think for a second that Sinatra or Elvis are more iconis than Michael Freakin Jackson. Maybe their is a generational gap between me and the majority of the posters on here but Sinatra and Elvis' song stealing ass have nothing on MJ. He's Michael Jackson. Elvis? Are you serious. I can consider Sinatra at least arguable, but Elvis? You guys have to be playing.

]]> By: peach http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799982 peach Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:16:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799982 Well - it would have to be Michael Jackson - While Sinatra and Elvis were phenomenally popular they sang songs in they same style their whole career. Michael Jackson continually tried to innovate and create something new throughout his life. Well - it would have to be Michael Jackson
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While Sinatra and Elvis were phenomenally popular they sang songs in they same style their whole career. Michael Jackson continually tried to innovate and create something new throughout his life.

]]> By: Sam Saturday http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799969 Sam Saturday Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:50:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799969 Sinatra is timelessly cool. But out of the three - MJ wrote his own music (most of it, anyway). That, to me, is the line that separates a performer from an artist. It's all about "performance" now, with all this American Idol garbage. I truly respect someone who writes their own music. Sinatra is timelessly cool.

But out of the three - MJ wrote his own music (most of it, anyway). That, to me, is the line that separates a performer from an artist. It's all about "performance" now, with all this American Idol garbage. I truly respect someone who writes their own music.

]]> By: Ronald L. http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799922 Ronald L. Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:37:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799922 I'm in my 30s, non-european, and in my opinion, the whole world would probably say MJ, followed closely by Elvis, then Sinatra. When it comes to skills, its like comparing apples with oranges. I'm in my 30s, non-european, and in my opinion, the whole world would probably say MJ, followed closely by Elvis, then Sinatra. When it comes to skills, its like comparing apples with oranges.

]]> By: Aritz http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799878 Aritz Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:44:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799878 John Lennon > Frank Sinatra John Lennon > Frank Sinatra

]]> By: neatoman http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799793 neatoman Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:11:55 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799793 Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799737 ted Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:12:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799737 Guest, that would make mmm the biggest moronic icon. Of course, it's Michael Jackson. People feel it's okay to praise him now that he's dead, when they were too afraid to be associated with him when he was alive. Frank Sinatra was a great singer, but he just doesn't have the same influence on music that Presley or Jackson had. I'd have been more inclined to put the Beatles in that list than him. Guest, that would make mmm the biggest moronic icon.

Of course, it's Michael Jackson. People feel it's okay to praise him now that he's dead, when they were too afraid to be associated with him when he was alive.

Frank Sinatra was a great singer, but he just doesn't have the same influence on music that Presley or Jackson had. I'd have been more inclined to put the Beatles in that list than him.

]]> By: Leela http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799682 Leela Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:34:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799682 If I'm getting it right, it says who is the best/biggest ICON. This is not about the best musician nor about how diverse his talents were etc. ICON-wise I think, Elvis is top. At least world wide. No doubt there were better singers/songwriters/actors all over the world! I have to agree that Sinatra does not really fit the comparison. What about Prince? Musical genius? Ok, I see, still alive. Darn. ;-) If I'm getting it right, it says who is the best/biggest ICON. This is not about the best musician nor about how diverse his talents were etc. ICON-wise I think, Elvis is top. At least world wide. No doubt there were better singers/songwriters/actors all over the world! I have to agree that Sinatra does not really fit the comparison. What about Prince? Musical genius? Ok, I see, still alive. Darn. ;-)

]]> By: Guest http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799640 Guest Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:14:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799640 mmm you moron. :) mmm you moron. :)

]]> By: moo http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799550 moo Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:17:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799550 Shalyapin. Shalyapin.

]]> By: ello http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799495 ello Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:28:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799495 biggest musical icon? lennon of the three? elvis, i think, because he was right at the start of the rock 'n roll genre biggest musical icon? lennon

of the three? elvis, i think, because he was right at the start of the rock 'n roll genre

]]> By: DaveL http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799433 DaveL Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:56:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799433 What... no votes for Edith Piaf? What... no votes for Edith Piaf?

]]> By: K*T http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799411 K*T Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:18:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799411 Duke Ellington. Master composer, arranger, performer. A Beethoven of his time. They will play Ellington for hundreds of years to come. Next would be Gershwin. Duke Ellington. Master composer, arranger, performer. A Beethoven of his time. They will play Ellington for hundreds of years to come. Next would be Gershwin.

]]> By: Dotty http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799397 Dotty Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:41:01 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799397 at least we know who was the top child rapist... at least we know who was the top child rapist...

]]> By: Mytake http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/comment-page-1/#comment-1799359 Mytake Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:27:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/07/01/whos-the-biggest-musical-icon-of-the-past-century/#comment-1799359 Elvis. Elvis.

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