Loving Day

1. Skipweasel
   June 10th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

   I just can't get my head round the idea that such law would exist - how could anyone ever have thought they were right?

2. HollywoodBob
   June 10th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

   Shouldn't be too hard to understand, we hear the exact same arguments against gay marriage today.

   Ignorant people always seem to be able to pass retarded laws to inflict their stupidity upon the world.

3. Skipweasel
   June 10th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

   Nope - I find that just as hard to understand.

4. Jen2222222
   June 10th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

   Skipweasel, I'm guessing you're a young person. I sincerely hope your generation is just as baffled by this ignorance as you are. . . honestly, you've given me a bit of hope for the future. Have a good one.

5. Alex
   June 10th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

   It wasn't that long ago that the last anti-miscegenation law in the world was repealed (mid 1980s, South Africa) but there are still places in the world where you can't marry someone because of differing religion. Israel, if I'm not mistaken, prohibits marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew.

6. Nicholas Dollak
   June 10th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

   Re: Alex (or, rather, Alex's observation)

   Another lame & stupid law, which places more importance on cultural constructs with little or no basis in reality (religion, "race") than those constructs warrant. If the Israeli government wants to drag Judaism through the mud, permit me to cite the Book of Proverbs as I challenge the law: "Criticize a fool, and he will hate you; criticize a wise man, and he will thank you." Here's hoping that the law will be discarded, rather than defended by idiots.

   Love is regarded as supreme. Legend has it that a rabbinical council met to decide which books belonged in the Torah and which should be removed. The Song of Solomon was the subject of much debate. Its dubious pedigree and "racy" subject matter (It's a love poem) nearly doomed it, until a rabbi whose opinion the others all respected finally spoke up. "The whole of Creation," he said, "is not worth the day the Song of Solomon was given to us." The book stayed in, and it is a delightful hymn to love.

7. Johnny Cat
   June 10th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

   Awesome input, Nicholas.

   I found it odd that I am reading The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett, and there's a similar scene depicted in the 12th century where someone who was guilty in the eyes of the church had to be banished in order to make things right.

8. Alex
   June 10th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

   @Nicholas Dollak - I don't purport to be an expert in Israeli legislations. All I know is that there are no civil marriages in Israel, only religious ones, although the government does recognize civil marriages done outside of the country.

   The problem with the law - besides the discrimination aspect, is that some people can't necessarily "prove" their Jewishness (which for some reason, only flows through a maternal line).

9. JamesM
   June 10th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

   "Skipweasel
   June 10th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
   I just can’t get my head round the idea that such law would exist - how could anyone ever have thought they were right?"

   "HollywoodBob
   June 10th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
   Shouldn’t be too hard to understand, we hear the exact same arguments against gay marriage today."

   It really puts the whole matter of gay marriage into perspective, doesn't it?

   By the reasoning cited by Warren in the Loving opinion, renders the purpose of the fundamental right of marriage worthless. If you can't choose your partner, your right to pursue happiness is abridged. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to marry the person they love, want to spend the rest of their lives with, if they happen to be of the same sex? There truly is no argument against it once religious "ideals" and "values" are taken out of the debate.

10. Kawiee
    June 11th, 2009 at 3:43 am

    In 1967 interracial marriage was guaranteed. In 1972, only 29% in the country approved. Waiting for 50% made no sense then, and it makes no sense now.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/28417/Most-Americans-Approve-Interracial-Ma rriages.aspx

11. ted
    June 11th, 2009 at 6:09 am

    Adds a little more perspective to the whole Obama thing.

    And yet, he's against gay marriage himself.

12. Kalel
    June 11th, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Funny story.

    Back during my photographer days, I did a lesbian wedding. There was great confusion as everyone tried to line up the bridal party by gender for pictures... "Line up boy-girl, boy-girl!", as everyone swirled around aimlessly.

    Finally I stepped in and bellowed, "Line up! Tuxedo-dress, tuxedo-dress!", and the couples fell neatly into place for my photos.

13. kat420
    June 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I'm married to a man who's filipino & we still get weird looks, the double takes from folks in Seattle. The city isn't as diverse as they say it is.

14. johzephine
    June 15th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Kalel, that's cute.

15. Neil
    June 17th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    It's funny: the same folks who most enthusiastically worship at the altar of the mandatory state religion ("diversity") cannot imagine anybody wanting to preserve it.

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