Comments on: Student Thwarts School's Book Ban by Forming Secret Lending Library http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/ The Neat Side of the Web Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:52:14 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ajan http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1753741 Ajan Thu, 28 May 2009 18:15:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1753741 wow, nice kid wow, nice kid

]]> By: Kalel http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1752550 Kalel Wed, 27 May 2009 16:38:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1752550 This is one for the books. This is one for the books.

]]> By: A Noun http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1752313 A Noun Wed, 27 May 2009 13:40:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1752313 Too bad the story's fake...because the first thing I thought was, "Haw haw, made you read!" Too bad the story's fake...because the first thing I thought was, "Haw haw, made you read!"

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1752051 ted Wed, 27 May 2009 10:38:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1752051 Catcher in The Rye? I suppose the other banned books were Brave New World and Lady Chatterley's Lover. Not imaginative enough to fake something contemporary? Come on. Catcher in The Rye? I suppose the other banned books were Brave New World and Lady Chatterley's Lover. Not imaginative enough to fake something contemporary?

Come on.

]]> By: barkingmad59 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751836 barkingmad59 Wed, 27 May 2009 04:45:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751836 "Let’s say that I am some white trash sort from Alaska, the mayor of a small town. Why, I might just march into the “liberry” and threaten, obliquely, the librarian if she doesn’t remove certain books from the shelves." Yeah, because we all know *that* really happened...:::cough::: Too bad it's a hoax. I wish whoever 'Kat' really is had put this much work and creativity into something useful. (OK, besides 'useful'='inspiring a bunch of dorks on the net to research and quibble about it') "Let’s say that I am some white trash sort from Alaska, the mayor of a small town. Why, I might just march into the “liberry” and threaten, obliquely, the librarian if she doesn’t remove certain books from the shelves."

Yeah, because we all know *that* really happened...:::cough:::

Too bad it's a hoax. I wish whoever 'Kat' really is had put this much work and creativity into something useful.

(OK, besides 'useful'='inspiring a bunch of dorks on the net to research and quibble about it')

]]> By: strangepork http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751820 strangepork Wed, 27 May 2009 04:19:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751820 this story (and it's subsequent surprises) reads like a heartwarming summer blockbuster, coming soon to a theater near you. this story (and it's subsequent surprises) reads like a heartwarming summer blockbuster, coming soon to a theater near you.

]]> By: Oomi http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751736 Oomi Wed, 27 May 2009 01:32:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751736 Fake, like my hip. Fake, like my hip.

]]> By: angstrom http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751730 angstrom Wed, 27 May 2009 01:27:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751730 one thing I've learned from all this is - if you have a silly name on the internet and happen to post a viral thread somewhere, then the whole damn internet will be digging up your past. 8 billion sleuths trying to figure out if you are a 14 year old girl with a penchant for books, or actually a 50 year old mediastudies lecturer playing an evil trick on the poor innocent timewasters of the interweb. I must remember, never post anything interesting on the net, or I will find my garden full of youtube commenters shouting "TeH Fake!" and "yr ghey!" one thing I've learned from all this is - if you have a silly name on the internet and happen to post a viral thread somewhere, then the whole damn internet will be digging up your past. 8 billion sleuths trying to figure out if you are a 14 year old girl with a penchant for books, or actually a 50 year old mediastudies lecturer playing an evil trick on the poor innocent timewasters of the interweb.

I must remember, never post anything interesting on the net, or I will find my garden full of youtube commenters shouting "TeH Fake!" and "yr ghey!"

]]> By: Jake D. http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751707 Jake D. Wed, 27 May 2009 00:52:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751707 No worries, John. It's a cool story, it's too bad it's fabricated. I actually saw it on a forum I post on and thought it was cool, then shortly after someone posted the link with the question about banned books. The internet is filled with detectives! No worries, John. It's a cool story, it's too bad it's fabricated. I actually saw it on a forum I post on and thought it was cool, then shortly after someone posted the link with the question about banned books.

The internet is filled with detectives!

]]> By: Moon http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751677 Moon Wed, 27 May 2009 00:14:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751677 Phewwwww. I was gonna say "I went to the strictest religious school maybe ever, and they didn't have a problem with 'Catcher in the Rye'" Hahaha! Fake. Phewwwww. I was gonna say "I went to the strictest religious school maybe ever, and they didn't have a problem with 'Catcher in the Rye'"

Hahaha! Fake.

]]> By: felixthecat http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751641 felixthecat Tue, 26 May 2009 22:50:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751641 Probably fake, yes, but there are still schools that are banning books, and there is pressure on public libraries to shed themselves of certain books because some bluenose ignoramus doesn't want people reading what they are afraid to read. Let's say that I am some white trash sort from Alaska, the mayor of a small town. Why, I might just march into the "liberry" and threaten, obliquely, the librarian if she doesn't remove certain books from the shelves. Probably fake, yes, but there are still schools that are banning books, and there is pressure on public libraries to shed themselves of certain books because some bluenose ignoramus doesn't want people reading what they are afraid to read. Let's say that I am some white trash sort from Alaska, the mayor of a small town. Why, I might just march into the "liberry" and threaten, obliquely, the librarian if she doesn't remove certain books from the shelves.

]]> By: CheeseDuck http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751627 CheeseDuck Tue, 26 May 2009 22:37:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751627 @Jake D. Hahahaha. FAIL. Good job at that too! @Jake D.

Hahahaha. FAIL. Good job at that too!

]]> By: John http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751624 John Tue, 26 May 2009 22:29:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751624 Well, hell. I'd like to defend myself, but you are all correct. I should have been way more skeptical and found a more reliable source for this story before posting it. Sloppy work on my part. Well, hell.

I'd like to defend myself, but you are all correct. I should have been way more skeptical and found a more reliable source for this story before posting it. Sloppy work on my part.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751617 Thomas Tue, 26 May 2009 22:12:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751617 Thanks, Jake D. I didn't feel like finding that link after writing my lengthy comment. I am a lazy bastard. Thanks, Jake D. I didn't feel like finding that link after writing my lengthy comment. I am a lazy bastard.

]]> By: Jake D. http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751615 Jake D. Tue, 26 May 2009 22:05:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751615 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090303155822AAUdqXd http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090303155822AAUdqXd

]]> By: seefish3 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751609 seefish3 Tue, 26 May 2009 21:53:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751609 Even if this story is true (unlikely), her fellow students don't have access to libraries, used book stores, or the Internet? FAIL! Even if this story is true (unlikely), her fellow students don't have access to libraries, used book stores, or the Internet?

FAIL!

]]> By: Rich http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751608 Rich Tue, 26 May 2009 21:52:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751608 Interesting how this follows an earlier post about "The Science News Cycle" http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/25/the-science-news-cycle/ Interesting how this follows an earlier post about "The Science News Cycle" http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/25/the-science-news-cycle/

]]> By: Thomas http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751589 Thomas Tue, 26 May 2009 21:14:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751589 Totally fake. For one, trusting a question on Yahoo Answers is like citing wikipedia on your doctoral dissertation. Another point, her previous question on Yahoo Answers went something like, "what are some commonly banned books? My school doesn't ban any, I'm just curious." She said that her friend went to a school where some books were banned, but that her own school had no such policy. Also, after people online started taking this seriously, and asking where they could DONATE MONEY TO HER she disabled the ability to search her previous questions. I was going to post on BB about it and I went from one of her questions to another, and when I tried to go to the next, she'd disabled the feature that lets users see what questions she'd asked, as well as the ability to contact her, both of which were available when I started. Just to top things off, in the question she is being praised for, she talks about not wanting to "pollute her library" with Twilight, but in one of her other questions she refers to it as one of her favorites. Several of her questions were simply her vetting ideas for her own writings (nothing wrong with that), and some suggest that this question is simply that, no harm done. Howver, I've heard many people suggest that she open a PayPal account so that people could donate money, and I've heard other suggest that she be given a full scholarship to wherever she wants to go. I know this kind of thing pulls at the geek heartstrings, but please don't buy into it. Maybe I'm a cynic, but I don't believe this story for a second. Totally fake. For one, trusting a question on Yahoo Answers is like citing wikipedia on your doctoral dissertation.

Another point, her previous question on Yahoo Answers went something like, "what are some commonly banned books? My school doesn't ban any, I'm just curious." She said that her friend went to a school where some books were banned, but that her own school had no such policy.

Also, after people online started taking this seriously, and asking where they could DONATE MONEY TO HER she disabled the ability to search her previous questions. I was going to post on BB about it and I went from one of her questions to another, and when I tried to go to the next, she'd disabled the feature that lets users see what questions she'd asked, as well as the ability to contact her, both of which were available when I started.

Just to top things off, in the question she is being praised for, she talks about not wanting to "pollute her library" with Twilight, but in one of her other questions she refers to it as one of her favorites.

Several of her questions were simply her vetting ideas for her own writings (nothing wrong with that), and some suggest that this question is simply that, no harm done. Howver, I've heard many people suggest that she open a PayPal account so that people could donate money, and I've heard other suggest that she be given a full scholarship to wherever she wants to go. I know this kind of thing pulls at the geek heartstrings, but please don't buy into it.

Maybe I'm a cynic, but I don't believe this story for a second.

]]> By: Miramon http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751588 Miramon Tue, 26 May 2009 21:13:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751588 Catcher in the Rye? The bane of junior high school students for generations? Banned? Haha. Right. Somewhere, in his secure undisclosed location, J. D. Salinger is laughing. "You know what I'd like to be? I mean if I had the goddamn choice? I'd just go ahead and be the Catcher in the Rye and all." Catcher in the Rye? The bane of junior high school students for generations? Banned? Haha. Right.

Somewhere, in his secure undisclosed location, J. D. Salinger is laughing.

"You know what I'd like to be? I mean if I had the goddamn choice? I'd just go ahead and be the Catcher in the Rye and all."

]]> By: muledoggie http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751585 muledoggie Tue, 26 May 2009 21:10:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751585 FAKE. FAKE. FAKE. Like 90% of banned book articles ... mule FAKE. FAKE. FAKE.

Like 90% of banned book articles ...

mule

]]> By: Screen Sleuth http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751565 Screen Sleuth Tue, 26 May 2009 20:49:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751565 There's still book banning? As far as I know, even the most religious, backwards schools don't ban many books anymore. There's still book banning? As far as I know, even the most religious, backwards schools don't ban many books anymore.

]]> By: hhype http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751559 hhype Tue, 26 May 2009 20:41:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751559 This is a hoax. Perhaps a review of the skeptical comments from on the BoingBoing discussion of this story would help. http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/24/kid-keeping-a-lendin.html I'll reiterate my comment from there: "...I don't know how anyone with internet access these days doesn't start with the basic assumption that everything they read is false until proven otherwise and with multiple sources. Kind of a wikipedia approach to everything." Neatorama, BoingBoing, Fark, Reddit, and Digg linking and posting around in a ring like the tail-devouring snake Ouroborus, yet with no fact checking between them. This is a hoax. Perhaps a review of the skeptical comments from on the BoingBoing discussion of this story would help.

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/24/kid-keeping-a-lendin.html

I'll reiterate my comment from there:

"...I don't know how anyone with internet access these days doesn't start with the basic assumption that everything they read is false until proven otherwise and with multiple sources. Kind of a wikipedia approach to everything."

Neatorama, BoingBoing, Fark, Reddit, and Digg linking and posting around in a ring like the tail-devouring snake Ouroborus, yet with no fact checking between them.

]]> By: CheeseDuck http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751541 CheeseDuck Tue, 26 May 2009 20:22:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751541 The only thing I learned from the Catcher in the Rye was that YOU DON'T MESS WITH PROSTITUTES. The only thing I learned from the Catcher in the Rye was that YOU DON'T MESS WITH PROSTITUTES.

]]> By: Skipweasel http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751526 Skipweasel Tue, 26 May 2009 20:08:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751526 How can anyone's favourite book be CitR? The protagonists is a whining little git who rambles on for three times as long as is needed to make the point. It'd've been a fine short story, but as a novel it drags and drags. How can anyone's favourite book be CitR? The protagonists is a whining little git who rambles on for three times as long as is needed to make the point. It'd've been a fine short story, but as a novel it drags and drags.

]]> By: Courageous Grace http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751517 Courageous Grace Tue, 26 May 2009 20:05:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751517 I'm definitely not the type to yell "fake" but my BS meter on this one is going off. I'd like to see an actual news story reported on this rather than some anonymous poster on a forum before I take something like this seriously. The poster doesn't say the name of the school, the city, state or even country of the school, and she seems to have an excuse for every question raised. I'm definitely not the type to yell "fake" but my BS meter on this one is going off. I'd like to see an actual news story reported on this rather than some anonymous poster on a forum before I take something like this seriously. The poster doesn't say the name of the school, the city, state or even country of the school, and she seems to have an excuse for every question raised.

]]> By: Mouserz http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751507 Mouserz Tue, 26 May 2009 19:58:54 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751507 I don't need a ban all up in my grill to not read. I don't need a ban all up in my grill to not read.

]]> By: greeneagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/comment-page-1/#comment-1751482 greeneagle Tue, 26 May 2009 19:31:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/student-thwarts-schools-book-ban-by-forming-secret-lending-library/#comment-1751482 Teenagers still read books? Teenagers still read books?

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