Comments on: Andrew Krasnow's Gruesome Human Skin Art http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/ The Neat Side of the Web Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:03:00 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Rob http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1877322 Rob Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:38:36 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1877322 It seems that anything goes nowadays so long as it is in "the name of art". Does the exhibition of human skin lampshades and other items make Hitler an artist? How can we condemn what Hitler did to the remains of his victims but accept it when someone else does it in the name of art? When people donate their bodies it is for the purposes of medical science not for some so-called artist to make an exhibition of. Where does it all end? What about an "artist" committing murder and then displaying the body as art? Or someone's property being vandalised and the photograph of the incident displayed as art? It seems that anything goes nowadays so long as it is in "the name of art". Does the exhibition of human skin lampshades and other items make Hitler an artist? How can we condemn what Hitler did to the remains of his victims but accept it when someone else does it in the name of art? When people donate their bodies it is for the purposes of medical science not for some so-called artist to make an exhibition of. Where does it all end? What about an "artist" committing murder and then displaying the body as art? Or someone's property being vandalised and the photograph of the incident displayed as art?

]]> By: Neil http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1825963 Neil Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:50:29 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1825963 Did you even bother to read your "the Nazis DID IT" link? Just as with the soap, and, arguably, the holy "gas chambers" that preserve the critical immunity of the West's Zionist ruling class to this day, NO, they did not. Did you even bother to read your "the Nazis DID IT" link? Just as with the soap, and, arguably, the holy "gas chambers" that preserve the critical immunity of the West's Zionist ruling class to this day, NO, they did not.

]]> By: Jaime Winters http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1776350 Jaime Winters Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:15:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1776350 Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Instead of rotting into dust, why not use them for art? Andy can have my skin if I die first. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Instead of rotting into dust, why not use them for art?

Andy can have my skin if I die first.

]]> By: SilverLake http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1769583 SilverLake Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:54:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1769583 I think that this is really irresponsible "reporting"... These so-called "writers" are trying to disgust and shock the readers to get hits on their page, but haven't seen the work. I, in fact, have seen the show. It's dark, yes... and very moving. And I assure you that a 2 line blurb where the tags are 'nazi, serial killer, human skin, lampshade' isn't a fair representation of the work. And, just as a note as the the accuracy of these articles... there aren't any lampshades in the show. Not of skin, not of anything. There are, in fact, lamps without shades at all... six of them. One for each of the million killed in concentration camps. The disgusting part of this whole manufactured uproar isn't the work... it's the hack writers trying to sensationalize it. I think that this is really irresponsible "reporting"... These so-called "writers" are trying to disgust and shock the readers to get hits on their page, but haven't seen the work. I, in fact, have seen the show. It's dark, yes... and very moving. And I assure you that a 2 line blurb where the tags are 'nazi, serial killer, human skin, lampshade' isn't a fair representation of the work. And, just as a note as the the accuracy of these articles... there aren't any lampshades in the show. Not of skin, not of anything. There are, in fact, lamps without shades at all... six of them. One for each of the million killed in concentration camps.

The disgusting part of this whole manufactured uproar isn't the work... it's the hack writers trying to sensationalize it.

]]> By: Skindeep http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1757910 Skindeep Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:31:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1757910 Look inside an abbattoir and then you might vomit, oh sensitive one Miss Curly. Perhaps you could look into the guy that does the cloaca shit art. Sharon - I see no similarity in using dead people who donated their bodies, to animals who had no choice and were killed to be eaten and their skins made into leather. Look inside an abbattoir and then you might vomit, oh sensitive one Miss Curly. Perhaps you could look into the guy that does the cloaca shit art.
Sharon - I see no similarity in using dead people who donated their bodies, to animals who had no choice and were killed to be eaten and their skins made into leather.

]]> By: Skindeep http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1757908 Skindeep Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:26:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1757908 I love the reaction this has caused. Shows how many conservatives there are in the world. I hope it has made some people think - wake up to the state of the world. Compared to what we do to animals and what happens to people in the third world this is tame. What a fuss and so many rationalisations to distract from the point of the work. Art that touches a few nerves - great! I love also how people think they are experts on what art is - such self-importance (ooh so precious) - sort of what the art speaks of here. I'd be honoured if my body was used in the name of art and for a statement that shocks I love the reaction this has caused. Shows how many conservatives there are in the world. I hope it has made some people think - wake up to the state of the world. Compared to what we do to animals and what happens to people in the third world this is tame. What a fuss and so many rationalisations to distract from the point of the work. Art that touches a few nerves - great! I love also how people think they are experts on what art is - such self-importance (ooh so precious) - sort of what the art speaks of here. I'd be honoured if my body was used in the name of art and for a statement that shocks

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1754063 Jeremy Fri, 29 May 2009 00:46:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1754063 I wondered what Gene Simmons was doing these days. I wondered what Gene Simmons was doing these days.

]]> By: Sharon http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1753820 Sharon Thu, 28 May 2009 20:13:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1753820 This is disgusting and not necessary. It is bad enough that people use animal skins for similar purposes. Using human skin is just as bad. I agree with previous comments about donation of bodies to medical science. I doubt the people who made these donations has this ridiculous purpose in mind. It seems very unethical. This is disgusting and not necessary. It is bad enough that people use animal skins for similar purposes. Using human skin is just as bad. I agree with previous comments about donation of bodies to medical science. I doubt the people who made these donations has this ridiculous purpose in mind. It seems very unethical.

]]> By: Miss Curly http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1753818 Miss Curly Thu, 28 May 2009 20:08:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1753818 Um, excuse me. I am vomiting now. Um, excuse me. I am vomiting now.

]]> By: Space Otter King http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1753816 Space Otter King Thu, 28 May 2009 20:08:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1753816 Someone in New Jersey back in the olden days was skinned for committing a really bad crime and turned into a wallet. As long as he legally obtained the skin then who cares? If anything this is really cool. :) Is it art? Not really. But it is trippy. :) Someone in New Jersey back in the olden days was skinned for committing a really bad crime and turned into a wallet. As long as he legally obtained the skin then who cares?

If anything this is really cool. :)

Is it art? Not really. But it is trippy. :)

]]> By: Ajan http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1753743 Ajan Thu, 28 May 2009 18:16:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1753743 LOL LOL LOL LOL ///Gallery owner Robert Devcic said Krasnow uses only white skin because much of the suffering in the Americas has been caused by white people. "He uses skin to make the point that suffering is universal," he said. "It is tanned using the same process that you’d use for an animal skin."/// Bull shit, if he uses black skin, he would be ripped apart LOL LOL LOL LOL
///Gallery owner Robert Devcic said Krasnow uses only white skin because much of the suffering in the Americas has been caused by white people. "He uses skin to make the point that suffering is universal," he said. "It is tanned using the same process that you’d use for an animal skin."///

Bull shit, if he uses black skin, he would be ripped apart

]]> By: Gauldar http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1753593 Gauldar Thu, 28 May 2009 13:54:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1753593 @VonSkippy With todays standards... that would actualy pass for art. @VonSkippy

With todays standards... that would actualy pass for art.

]]> By: joseph http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1753500 joseph Thu, 28 May 2009 11:11:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1753500 VonSkippy > yeah! you got it... think it needs to be captured/recorded/performed in some way though... you wanna come to London and stage a gut punch performance art show? VonSkippy > yeah! you got it... think it needs to be captured/recorded/performed in some way though... you wanna come to London and stage a gut punch performance art show?

]]> By: bennnnn http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1753152 bennnnn Wed, 27 May 2009 23:55:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1753152 "His work, he says, is a commentary on human cruelty and America’s ethics and morality." And what is the comment? "His work, he says, is a commentary on human cruelty and America’s ethics and morality."

And what is the comment?

]]> By: VonSkippy http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1752832 VonSkippy Wed, 27 May 2009 20:02:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1752832 "Art… anything thats made with the intention of stimulating emotions, thoughts etc. " That's the dumbest statement EVER. By that "logic" if I slug you really really hard in the gut, I'm an artist. What? You didn't get that my moving fist was an analog for today's rapid paced society and that the nauseous feeling you got was the underlying thoughts of the downtrodden members of society in a capitalist run economy. "Art… anything thats made with the intention of stimulating emotions, thoughts etc. "

That's the dumbest statement EVER.

By that "logic" if I slug you really really hard in the gut, I'm an artist.

What? You didn't get that my moving fist was an analog for today's rapid paced society and that the nauseous feeling you got was the underlying thoughts of the downtrodden members of society in a capitalist run economy.

]]> By: Namowal http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1752504 Namowal Wed, 27 May 2009 16:04:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1752504 I think Sarah Perez may be onto him.,,! I think Sarah Perez may be onto him.,,!

]]> By: joseph http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1752197 joseph Wed, 27 May 2009 12:27:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1752197 Art... anything thats made with the intention of stimulating emotions, thoughts etc. Well thats how i see art - seems pretty successful art if the above is anything to go by. Art... anything thats made with the intention of stimulating emotions, thoughts etc. Well thats how i see art - seems pretty successful art if the above is anything to go by.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1752054 ted Wed, 27 May 2009 10:41:54 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1752054 Not much of a commentary. And yes, intentionally using white people skin is racist. Not much of a commentary. And yes, intentionally using white people skin is racist.

]]> By: Cola http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751906 Cola Wed, 27 May 2009 08:10:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751906 Skin from donated bodies is usually used for burn victims. It isn't scrap. I'm not sure the donors expected their bodies to be used this way, and that's frankly the only thing that bothers me about this. Skin from donated bodies is usually used for burn victims. It isn't scrap.

I'm not sure the donors expected their bodies to be used this way, and that's frankly the only thing that bothers me about this.

]]> By: Sarah Perez http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751818 Sarah Perez Wed, 27 May 2009 04:18:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751818 I have a hard time believing this guy was able to get permission to use human skin for an "art project." I mean, it's not just some scrap on the cutting room floor-- it's human body parts, not to mention a biohazard. And how can he prove it's human skin anyway? Sounds like a good hoax to me. and even if it is human skin-- someone had to do it I guess. Gimmicky at best. Is that what he really wants to be known for? Lame. I have a hard time believing this guy was able to get permission to use human skin for an "art project." I mean, it's not just some scrap on the cutting room floor-- it's human body parts, not to mention a biohazard. And how can he prove it's human skin anyway? Sounds like a good hoax to me.

and even if it is human skin-- someone had to do it I guess. Gimmicky at best. Is that what he really wants to be known for? Lame.

]]> By: LisaL http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751796 LisaL Wed, 27 May 2009 03:50:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751796 Look at me everyone! I'm so edgey and cool and totally awesome. *yawn* So tired of these attention seeking pieces of crap calling themselves artists. Look at me everyone! I'm so edgey and cool and totally awesome.

*yawn*

So tired of these attention seeking pieces of crap calling themselves artists.

]]> By: kirbydancer http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751784 kirbydancer Wed, 27 May 2009 03:29:41 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751784 "He uses skin to make the point that suffering is universal," Doesn't the practice of only using white people's skin take the universal sense and crush it into the ground, leaving only sensationalism? "He uses skin to make the point that suffering is universal,"

Doesn't the practice of only using white people's skin take the universal sense and crush it into the ground, leaving only sensationalism?

]]> By: Timm http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751780 Timm Wed, 27 May 2009 03:26:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751780 It is sad what people try to pass off as art these days. A Monet is art. A Faberge' Egg is art. A representation of the shape of the US made of human skin is a disgusting piece of trash - I think it even says so in the dictionary. This guy is a douchebag. It is sad what people try to pass off as art these days. A Monet is art. A Faberge' Egg is art. A representation of the shape of the US made of human skin is a disgusting piece of trash - I think it even says so in the dictionary.

This guy is a douchebag.

]]> By: weirdloser http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751771 weirdloser Wed, 27 May 2009 03:08:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751771 Sad, but "art" is now just a measure of who can be the sickest. I'm gonna get me a twofer and paint a portrait of the Madonna on human skin using elephant dung. It will be sublimely beautiful. Or at least expensive. Sad, but "art" is now just a measure of who can be the sickest. I'm gonna get me a twofer and paint a portrait of the Madonna on human skin using elephant dung. It will be sublimely beautiful. Or at least expensive.

]]> By: aikiguy http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751764 aikiguy Wed, 27 May 2009 02:52:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751764 "...a direct response to the belief that similar items made from the skin of Holocaust victims were found at Buchenwald concentration camp." A belief? Are you denying it happened? http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/skin.html "...a direct response to the belief that similar items made from the skin of Holocaust victims were found at Buchenwald concentration camp."

A belief? Are you denying it happened?

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/skin.html

]]> By: Oomi http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751741 Oomi Wed, 27 May 2009 01:37:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751741 Klaatu Barada Ni*cough* *cough* Klaatu Barada Ni*cough* *cough*

]]> By: MightyCow http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751710 MightyCow Wed, 27 May 2009 00:55:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751710 I hope that guy's gonna be cool when I eat his liver in the name of art. I hope that guy's gonna be cool when I eat his liver in the name of art.

]]> By: Frau http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751651 Frau Tue, 26 May 2009 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751651 @ felix - I think comments are moderated for language, but not banned. Yeah I dont think the people who donated their bodies thought they would end up as art. @ felix - I think comments are moderated for language, but not banned.

Yeah I dont think the people who donated their bodies thought they would end up as art.

]]> By: christine http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751649 christine Tue, 26 May 2009 23:13:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751649 this guy is sicko this guy is sicko

]]> By: felixthecat http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/comment-page-1/#comment-1751643 felixthecat Tue, 26 May 2009 22:52:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/26/andrew-krasnows-gruesome-human-skin-art/#comment-1751643 WoW! You ban comments here? Grow up! Or this a little kids site? WoW! You ban comments here? Grow up! Or this a little kids site?

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