Comments on: The Code the CIA Can’t Crack http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:06:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pamela Gehrig http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1980437 Pamela Gehrig Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:54:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1980437 I believe to have the overall riddle and 4th section of Kryptos figured out. Any idea how to go about getting a confirmation from the artist as to its validity? He has yet to respond to email. Your help would be greatly appreciated. I believe to have the overall riddle and 4th section of Kryptos figured out. Any idea how to go about getting a confirmation from the artist as to its validity? He has yet to respond to email. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

]]> By: john scott http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1805619 john scott Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:18:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1805619 saw this Kryptos clue on the 11 o'clock news http://11oclocknews.typepad.com saw this Kryptos clue on the 11 o’clock news

http://11oclocknews.typepad.com

]]> By: Curtis Mailtif http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1716817 Curtis Mailtif Tue, 05 May 2009 23:01:06 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1716817 Does the shadow during certain times of day play a role in the message? I mean I'm not actually asking, but kind of seems like it may. Does the shadow during certain times of day play a role in the message? I mean I’m not actually asking, but kind of seems like it may.

]]> By: earbox http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1716389 earbox Tue, 05 May 2009 21:26:39 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1716389 It translates to a particularly good recipe for chocolate chip cookies, I hear. It translates to a particularly good recipe for chocolate chip cookies, I hear.

]]> By: Chris Cyrek http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1715943 Chris Cyrek Tue, 05 May 2009 18:57:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1715943 The cipher is related to the locality of the sun and it's corresponding shadow. The cipher is related to the locality of the sun and it’s corresponding shadow.

]]> By: Rich http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1714868 Rich Tue, 05 May 2009 14:00:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1714868 It says "your tax dollars at work". It says “your tax dollars at work”.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1714363 ted Tue, 05 May 2009 11:51:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1714363 Sounds bogus. Would the CIA, in all their paranoia, actually approve it in advance without knowing what it said? Sounds bogus. Would the CIA, in all their paranoia, actually approve it in advance without knowing what it said?

]]> By: Ali S. http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1712316 Ali S. Tue, 05 May 2009 02:32:48 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1712316 @ Frau That is an interesting idea...rolling the paper would maybe allow one to see if letters in one line or section overlap or sit side by side other letters! @ Frau

That is an interesting idea…rolling the paper would maybe allow one to see if letters in one line or section overlap or sit side by side other letters!

]]> By: Snake Oil Baron http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1712302 Snake Oil Baron Tue, 05 May 2009 02:25:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1712302 That part with the shadow falling on it looks like the same letters repeated in each line but progressing one letter on each line. Do I win something? That part with the shadow falling on it looks like the same letters repeated in each line but progressing one letter on each line. Do I win something?

]]> By: edc2 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1712262 edc2 Tue, 05 May 2009 02:07:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1712262 actually if it said "drink your ovaltine!" that'd be cool. but he's still an asshole. actually if it said “drink your ovaltine!” that’d be cool.
but he’s still an asshole.

]]> By: DOJ http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1712258 DOJ Tue, 05 May 2009 02:06:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1712258 Couldn't they just use that thing from Dan Brown's 'Digital Fortress'? Couldn’t they just use that thing from Dan Brown’s ‘Digital Fortress’?

]]> By: edc2 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1712248 edc2 Tue, 05 May 2009 02:05:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1712248 "nya nya! I know something you don't" what an asshole this guy is. “nya nya! I know something you don’t”
what an asshole this guy is.

]]> By: Randomacy http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1712218 Randomacy Tue, 05 May 2009 01:50:37 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1712218 Use crackers! Use crackers!

]]> By: skidworth http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711873 skidworth Mon, 04 May 2009 23:06:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711873 the last section is backwards, and if you use three mirrors and a theodolite you can plainly see that it says "I killed JR!" the last section is backwards, and if you use three mirrors and a theodolite you can plainly see that it says “I killed JR!”

]]> By: theJustin http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711787 theJustin Mon, 04 May 2009 22:28:30 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711787 I ran section 4 through a Google and Yahoo search, here's the answer... "Thank You Mario! But Our Princess Is In Another Castle!" I ran section 4 through a Google and Yahoo search, here’s the answer… “Thank You Mario! But Our Princess Is In Another Castle!”

]]> By: Josh http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711784 Josh Mon, 04 May 2009 22:25:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711784 @Bonehead108 Exactly what I was thinking. It would be the perfect prank leaving 100s of people trying to decrypt the impossible. @Bonehead108
Exactly what I was thinking. It would be the perfect prank leaving 100s of people trying to decrypt the impossible.

]]> By: vaxjo http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711639 vaxjo Mon, 04 May 2009 21:18:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711639 The title is misleading. It's not that the CIA can't decrypt the cipher - it's just that the organization, as a whole, has never bothered trying. It's left as a hobby exercise to cryptanalists. FTFA, "[In 1999] Jim Gillogly, an LA-area cryptanalyst[,] used a Pentium II computer and some custom software to crack the same three sections." Provided that there actually is plain text encrypted in the sculpture, Gillogly and his ilk could probably use a contemporary computer (or array of same) to make short work of the rest of the cipher. The title is misleading. It’s not that the CIA can’t decrypt the cipher – it’s just that the organization, as a whole, has never bothered trying. It’s left as a hobby exercise to cryptanalists.

FTFA, “[In 1999] Jim Gillogly, an LA-area cryptanalyst[,] used a Pentium II computer and some custom software to crack the same three sections.” Provided that there actually is plain text encrypted in the sculpture, Gillogly and his ilk could probably use a contemporary computer (or array of same) to make short work of the rest of the cipher.

]]> By: Johnny Cat http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711611 Johnny Cat Mon, 04 May 2009 21:07:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711611 Here's a cipher for you to decode: ALLYOURBASEAREBELONGTOUS There, feel smarter now? :P Here’s a cipher for you to decode:

ALLYOURBASEAREBELONGTOUS

There, feel smarter now? :P

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711544 Alex Mon, 04 May 2009 20:34:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711544 Gomez' trolling comment deleted. Gomez’ trolling comment deleted.

]]> By: violet/riga http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711416 violet/riga Mon, 04 May 2009 19:30:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711416 I really hope the original author has it written down somewhere so that it can be revealed... would be a shame if he died and nobody ever discoverd the secret. I really hope the original author has it written down somewhere so that it can be revealed… would be a shame if he died and nobody ever discoverd the secret.

]]> By: lucky http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711388 lucky Mon, 04 May 2009 19:16:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711388 i really do like this sculpture...i bring it up periodically in conversations...actual mysteries are so wonderful i really do like this sculpture…i bring it up periodically in conversations…actual mysteries are so wonderful

]]> By: Frau http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711354 Frau Mon, 04 May 2009 19:01:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711354 i used to have a minor interest in cryptology growing up. I had discovered a cryptology book that belonged to my grandfather. It was for use in the British army. But, I was watching a program about "inside the CIA" and that sculture had a lengthy segment. The artist showed how he encrypted the "puzzle". He had encrypted it differently for each panel though. Ever since I saw that - I occasionally try to figure it out. I kind of work it like a sudoku. One that I know is extremly difficult to solve, so I just work on maybe two squares every now and then. I do however think the last 97 characters are more simple than the first three panels.And that people are making it more difficult than it is. When the artist had said "it should unravel and reveal itself slowly" I had thought that one should perhaps copy the statur to paper and roll it up. But you would have to know the correct diameter that you should roll it up into. i used to have a minor interest in cryptology growing up. I had discovered a cryptology book that belonged to my grandfather. It was for use in the British army.

But, I was watching a program about “inside the CIA” and that sculture had a lengthy segment. The artist showed how he encrypted the “puzzle”. He had encrypted it differently for each panel though. Ever since I saw that – I occasionally try to figure it out. I kind of work it like a sudoku. One that I know is extremly difficult to solve, so I just work on maybe two squares every now and then.
I do however think the last 97 characters are more simple than the first three panels.And that people are making it more difficult than it is.
When the artist had said “it should unravel and reveal itself slowly” I had thought that one should perhaps copy the statur to paper and roll it up.
But you would have to know the correct diameter that you should roll it up into.

]]> By: Stew http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711352 Stew Mon, 04 May 2009 19:00:24 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711352 I thought I too had read that there was an error in the code. The original author examined it and sure enough, one letter was miscast, throwing off the whole cypher. I thought I too had read that there was an error in the code. The original author examined it and sure enough, one letter was miscast, throwing off the whole cypher.

]]> By: Vonskippy http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711249 Vonskippy Mon, 04 May 2009 18:11:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711249 @Gomez: You're a major asshat. @Gomez: You’re a major asshat.

]]> By: mikos http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711237 mikos Mon, 04 May 2009 18:07:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711237 Hehe... Probably a one-time-pad! :) The joke is on the CIA cryptologists. Hehe… Probably a one-time-pad! :) The joke is on the CIA cryptologists.

]]> By: Bonehead108 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711235 Bonehead108 Mon, 04 May 2009 18:04:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711235 If it was me, I'd leave the last part complete gibberish just to mess with people. If it was me, I’d leave the last part complete gibberish just to mess with people.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/comment-page-1/#comment-1711175 Alex Mon, 04 May 2009 17:47:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/05/04/the-code-the-cia-cant-crack/#comment-1711175 Also the subject of Dan Brown's latest novel, right? I've read somewhere that there were mistakes in the codes (when the sculpture was cast) that threw a lot of cryptoanalysts. Also the subject of Dan Brown’s latest novel, right? I’ve read somewhere that there were mistakes in the codes (when the sculpture was cast) that threw a lot of cryptoanalysts.

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