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	<title>Comments on: Swine Flu: Bacon&#039;s Revenge</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa85856</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-2/#comment-1814288</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa85856</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff.  Did you hear that there&#039;s a new strain which is resistant to the anti-flu drugs?  Tamiflu etc?  Found a really good website for tracking it&#039;s progress, seems to be updated every hour or so...  www.swinefludeaths.co.uk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff.  Did you hear that there's a new strain which is resistant to the anti-flu drugs?  Tamiflu etc?  Found a really good website for tracking it's progress, seems to be updated every hour or so...  <a href="http://www.swinefludeaths.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.swinefludeaths.co.uk</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa85</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-2/#comment-1814270</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.swinefludeaths.co.uk says theres over 110000 now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.swinefludeaths.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.swinefludeaths.co.uk</a> says theres over 110000 now!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa3454</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-2/#comment-1814267</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa3454</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than 110000 now, about 1% mortality I think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than 110000 now, about 1% mortality I think!</p>
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		<title>By: Key</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-2/#comment-1720945</link>
		<dc:creator>Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the United States more than 100,000 people are hospitalized and more than 20,000 people die from the flu and its complications every year. (Source: excerpt from The Flu, NIAID Fact Sheet: NIAID) ... In an average year, flu leads to about 20,000 deaths nationwide and many more hospitalizations. (Source: excerpt from What to Do About the Flu - Age Page - Health Information: NIA)

It&#039;s more about the hype than the actual serious nature of the flu...Not making fun of any deaths, just the hype of this particular strain. If regular flu deaths were reported on the front page every day, we&#039;d never read about anything else. 20,000 a year for ANY flu in the U.S.A. alone would mean 5-6 front page deaths from the flu every day. Unless someone publishes a &#039;Flu Only&#039; newspaper, I&#039;m flued out~!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the United States more than 100,000 people are hospitalized and more than 20,000 people die from the flu and its complications every year. (Source: excerpt from The Flu, NIAID Fact Sheet: NIAID) ... In an average year, flu leads to about 20,000 deaths nationwide and many more hospitalizations. (Source: excerpt from What to Do About the Flu - Age Page - Health Information: NIA)</p>
<p>It's more about the hype than the actual serious nature of the flu...Not making fun of any deaths, just the hype of this particular strain. If regular flu deaths were reported on the front page every day, we'd never read about anything else. 20,000 a year for ANY flu in the U.S.A. alone would mean 5-6 front page deaths from the flu every day. Unless someone publishes a 'Flu Only' newspaper, I'm flued out~!</p>
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		<title>By: mr bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=2517604</description>
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		<title>By: jazmin</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1719373</link>
		<dc:creator>jazmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hope it doesnt kill anyone and i hope  no 1 gets it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hope it doesnt kill anyone and i hope  no 1 gets it</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1698113</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I have swine flu.

Every time I cough it smells like bacon.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have swine flu.</p>
<p>Every time I cough it smells like bacon.....</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Sparks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Sparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious! I know it&#039;s horrible but, damn that&#039;s funny.......... I found this

http://www.whenswinefly.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious! I know it's horrible but, damn that's funny.......... I found this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whenswinefly.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whenswinefly.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: alcoholly</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcoholly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the swine flu can be treated and does not have to be fatal. However, the reality is that a lot of people do not have healthcare, or just wouldn&#039;t believe that they had the swine flu before they had spread it. In fact, it is reported to be contagious at least two days before symptoms arise. So, I applaud the effort to err on the side of caution and make people aware. I live in Fort Worth, TX, where all schools are closed. If just one poor, or uninsured person was spared catching this and possibly dying because their child missed a few days of school, then it is worth it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the swine flu can be treated and does not have to be fatal. However, the reality is that a lot of people do not have healthcare, or just wouldn't believe that they had the swine flu before they had spread it. In fact, it is reported to be contagious at least two days before symptoms arise. So, I applaud the effort to err on the side of caution and make people aware. I live in Fort Worth, TX, where all schools are closed. If just one poor, or uninsured person was spared catching this and possibly dying because their child missed a few days of school, then it is worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: OddNumber</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694899</link>
		<dc:creator>OddNumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Meg - You&#039;re right, it is sad regardless of the number, but it helps to have the numbers right.  8 deaths is the current number reported by the WHO.

Straight from the WHO website (http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_29/en/index.html):

&quot;As of 18:00 GMT, 29 April 2009, nine countries have officially reported 148 cases of swine influenza A/H1N1 infection. The United States Government has reported 91 laboratory confirmed human cases, with one death. Mexico has reported 26 confirmed human cases of infection including seven deaths.

The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (13), Germany (3), Israel (2), New Zealand (3), Spain (4) and the United Kingdom (5).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Meg - You're right, it is sad regardless of the number, but it helps to have the numbers right.  8 deaths is the current number reported by the WHO.</p>
<p>Straight from the WHO website (<a href="http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_29/en/index.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_29/en/index.html)</a>:</p>
<p>"As of 18:00 GMT, 29 April 2009, nine countries have officially reported 148 cases of swine influenza A/H1N1 infection. The United States Government has reported 91 laboratory confirmed human cases, with one death. Mexico has reported 26 confirmed human cases of infection including seven deaths.</p>
<p>The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (13), Germany (3), Israel (2), New Zealand (3), Spain (4) and the United Kingdom (5)."</p>
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		<title>By: Granturista</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694854</link>
		<dc:creator>Granturista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Days of swine &amp; roseola.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Days of swine &amp; roseola.</p>
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		<title>By: QuarterRoy00</title>
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		<dc:creator>QuarterRoy00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best cure for swine flu is a generous application of oinkment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best cure for swine flu is a generous application of oinkment.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter if it was 7 or 152. (it was 152) and it doesn&#039;t matter if it isn&#039;t the biggest killer there is in the world. Anybody dying for any reason is sad, and not something to be joked about. It may not affect you yet, but that doesn&#039;t mean that other people aren&#039;t suffering because of it. By all means, make attempts at moral outrage in the hopes of being funny. But I think it&#039;s ignorant and distasteful to make jokes at the expense of those who are suffering. If you sent this shirt to a family who lost their baby or their grandmother to swine flu, or any other flu variant for that matter, I highly doubt they&#039;d find the same misguided comedic value in it that you seem to. Everyone deserves to have a laugh and do something to negate all the scary media coverage, but really. There are so many other things you could joke about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn't matter if it was 7 or 152. (it was 152) and it doesn't matter if it isn't the biggest killer there is in the world. Anybody dying for any reason is sad, and not something to be joked about. It may not affect you yet, but that doesn't mean that other people aren't suffering because of it. By all means, make attempts at moral outrage in the hopes of being funny. But I think it's ignorant and distasteful to make jokes at the expense of those who are suffering. If you sent this shirt to a family who lost their baby or their grandmother to swine flu, or any other flu variant for that matter, I highly doubt they'd find the same misguided comedic value in it that you seem to. Everyone deserves to have a laugh and do something to negate all the scary media coverage, but really. There are so many other things you could joke about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaideep Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694766</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaideep Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This flu incites swine-chilling horror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This flu incites swine-chilling horror.</p>
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		<title>By: cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t figure out why so many people on this thread are acting so sow-r.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can't figure out why so many people on this thread are acting so sow-r.</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694566</link>
		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in: Commenters go hogwild in ham-handed bid to win internet debate.  As pigheaded assertions reach epidemic levels, CDC recommends afflicted herd themselves into bed, get plenty of flu-ids, take livestock of the uselessness of it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in: Commenters go hogwild in ham-handed bid to win internet debate.  As pigheaded assertions reach epidemic levels, CDC recommends afflicted herd themselves into bed, get plenty of flu-ids, take livestock of the uselessness of it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694559</link>
		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have died, we all have the potential to die if this becomes a pandemic and huffs and puffs and blows our ... oh never mind. I&#039;m bad at this sort of thing.

Look, folks, the potential for pandemic is serious, and no one is making light of the confirmed dead or the sick. If you can&#039;t laugh at something like this and feel the need to be overly sensitive and dour, then being on the internet is probably a bad idea. Making jokes is often the best way for people to deal with frightening things, and we are all being bombarded with reports on swine flu twenty four hours a day. It&#039;s nice to have a laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have died, we all have the potential to die if this becomes a pandemic and huffs and puffs and blows our ... oh never mind. I'm bad at this sort of thing.</p>
<p>Look, folks, the potential for pandemic is serious, and no one is making light of the confirmed dead or the sick. If you can't laugh at something like this and feel the need to be overly sensitive and dour, then being on the internet is probably a bad idea. Making jokes is often the best way for people to deal with frightening things, and we are all being bombarded with reports on swine flu twenty four hours a day. It's nice to have a laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: OddNumber</title>
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		<dc:creator>OddNumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m missing how Neatorama&#039;s new t-shirt is worthy of being listed on the front page - I doubt it would have made it out of the upcoming Q.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm missing how Neatorama's new t-shirt is worthy of being listed on the front page - I doubt it would have made it out of the upcoming Q.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694526</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an update, the WHO says there have only been 7 (yes, just SEVEN) confirmed swine flu deaths. Everybody just take a biig step back and chill out.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/only-7-swine-flu-deaths-not-152-says-who-20090429-aml1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an update, the WHO says there have only been 7 (yes, just SEVEN) confirmed swine flu deaths. Everybody just take a biig step back and chill out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/world/only-7-swine-flu-deaths-not-152-says-who-20090429-aml1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/world/only-7-swine-flu-deaths-not-152-says-who-2 0090429-aml1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nymori</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694230</link>
		<dc:creator>Nymori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If nothing else, at least the swine flu&#039;s allowing the people researching it to &quot;bring home the bacon&quot; in such times of economic instability... 

*ducks away from angry comments*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If nothing else, at least the swine flu's allowing the people researching it to "bring home the bacon" in such times of economic instability... </p>
<p>*ducks away from angry comments*</p>
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		<title>By: hispanameican</title>
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		<dc:creator>hispanameican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, i have really just skimmed through the comments on this one but honestly you&#039;re all a bunch of silly people. this is a serious issue, but at the same time lets not get crazy. sick people died because they don&#039;t have healthcare. there&#039;s one reported case of this swine flu in my hometown in central california, but no one is make a big deal of it are they? everyone thinks it&#039;s just in mexico but it&#039;s already crossed the border. it&#039;s not a big deal. antibiotics and oj and rest. that&#039;s what they prescribed him. and you guys are spazzing out. this thing affects the old and young the worst. so chillllll. stop arguing...and get back to making jokes. and if you don&#039;t like the jokes then go read something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, i have really just skimmed through the comments on this one but honestly you're all a bunch of silly people. this is a serious issue, but at the same time lets not get crazy. sick people died because they don't have healthcare. there's one reported case of this swine flu in my hometown in central california, but no one is make a big deal of it are they? everyone thinks it's just in mexico but it's already crossed the border. it's not a big deal. antibiotics and oj and rest. that's what they prescribed him. and you guys are spazzing out. this thing affects the old and young the worst. so chillllll. stop arguing...and get back to making jokes. and if you don't like the jokes then go read something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Foreigner1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foreigner1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah thanks aan- Now I begin to understand something:
If it is unpredictable, then there is reason to worry bigtime, but as long as the situation is predictable, we can sit back...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah thanks aan- Now I begin to understand something:<br />
If it is unpredictable, then there is reason to worry bigtime, but as long as the situation is predictable, we can sit back...?</p>
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		<title>By: Foreigner1</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694099</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreigner1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CQ- 
The Central Buro of Statistiscs in the Netherlands where I come from, states that yearly about 80.000 people get sick and about 1.000 to 2.000 persons die. Most of these people are above 65 years old.
The first month of 2009 saw on average an extra thousand deaths caused by the normal flu. 

In the Netherlands, in 2008 we had 750 deaths in traffic. And we have very good trasckrecord compared to other countries in Europe where we has about 43 deaths per 1 million inhabitants. Compared: A country like the United Kingdom has about 50 and Belgium has about 101 deaths per million.  

The Netherlands is a well developed country with an excellent healthcare system and a population of a little over 16 million people.
It is my estimate that there will be comparable numbers in the US if you even out the numbers. And in that case how will the numbers for that ordinary flu stack up worldwide?

At the same time, worldwide yearly there are about 12.00.000 deaths in traffic.

So again I ask- Only 152 worldwide for this new kind of flu and then all the panic...? I still don&#039;t understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CQ-<br />
The Central Buro of Statistiscs in the Netherlands where I come from, states that yearly about 80.000 people get sick and about 1.000 to 2.000 persons die. Most of these people are above 65 years old.<br />
The first month of 2009 saw on average an extra thousand deaths caused by the normal flu. </p>
<p>In the Netherlands, in 2008 we had 750 deaths in traffic. And we have very good trasckrecord compared to other countries in Europe where we has about 43 deaths per 1 million inhabitants. Compared: A country like the United Kingdom has about 50 and Belgium has about 101 deaths per million.  </p>
<p>The Netherlands is a well developed country with an excellent healthcare system and a population of a little over 16 million people.<br />
It is my estimate that there will be comparable numbers in the US if you even out the numbers. And in that case how will the numbers for that ordinary flu stack up worldwide?</p>
<p>At the same time, worldwide yearly there are about 12.00.000 deaths in traffic.</p>
<p>So again I ask- Only 152 worldwide for this new kind of flu and then all the panic...? I still don't understand.</p>
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		<title>By: DocT</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694047</link>
		<dc:creator>DocT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy a joke as much as the next guy, but on a serious note, living and working in Asia, I&#039;ve personally known people who&#039;ve died and suffered from SARS and bird flu. I understand that the threats were intangible in North America and Europe so it was easy to take lightly.

It seems the same is happening here - deaths of people in developing nations are all fun, games, and cocktail conversation until someone in the First World dies, then the health departments really start to do more than express concerns.

Also, to anyone using &quot;body count from X is higher than Y&quot; argument, death is death - are we so desensitized that we can get some cheap laughs from other people&#039;s grief so long as something else kills more? At least I&#039;m glad to see the totally inappropriate post regarding deceased Mexicans gone, kudos. 

That said, a punny caveat whilst maintaining my outrage: Don&#039;t be a ham and hog up the comments with boarish spam - you can just can it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy a joke as much as the next guy, but on a serious note, living and working in Asia, I've personally known people who've died and suffered from SARS and bird flu. I understand that the threats were intangible in North America and Europe so it was easy to take lightly.</p>
<p>It seems the same is happening here - deaths of people in developing nations are all fun, games, and cocktail conversation until someone in the First World dies, then the health departments really start to do more than express concerns.</p>
<p>Also, to anyone using "body count from X is higher than Y" argument, death is death - are we so desensitized that we can get some cheap laughs from other people's grief so long as something else kills more? At least I'm glad to see the totally inappropriate post regarding deceased Mexicans gone, kudos. </p>
<p>That said, a punny caveat whilst maintaining my outrage: Don't be a ham and hog up the comments with boarish spam - you can just can it.</p>
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		<title>By: aan</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694045</link>
		<dc:creator>aan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to see some commenters here are actively and correctly analyzing the threat of swine flu.   I am currently obtaining a masters degree in global public health with a focus on emerging infectious diseases.   Let&#039;s note a few things of important:

1.  The Spanish flu originally circulated as a moderately infectious and virulent strain before mutating and killing 30 million people.   The ability for the strain to attenuate is largely due to the lack of containment and surveillance of the disease.

2.  I assume most of you are healthy adults.  This strain of flu is more deadly to healthy adults.  The over-response of the immune system in healthy adults is usually the cause of death, rather than the actual virus itself.

3.  Why have prior pandemics been able to spread so quickly?  Well, lets simply apply some common-knowledge to that one.  No internet.  A lack of global surveillance.  When the media can disseminate information to a large number of people quickly and those people can take precautions, the ability for the flu to spread is reduced.  Obviously this is not the sole or main reason the flu isn&#039;t a pandemic yet, but it&#039;s certain a factor.

4.  Comparing car crash mortality rates and influenza mortality rates is simply  ridiculous.  Yes, car crashes are a major problem.  Go ahead and list off every god damn probably cause of death you want and talk about how &quot;more people die every day of disease/accident/x.&quot;  The truth of this matter is, if you all found out in a few months, when this disease subsides, that a highly infectious and potentially deadly strain of flu was infecting hundred of persons in the U.S, Mexico, Europe and a host of other nations, YOU WOULD BE LIGHTING UP MESSAGE BOARDS bitching about the lack of transparency in government and media.  This point is the one that irks me that post as a person working in public health.   If we do EVERYTHING we can to keep you safe from disease, people act bratty and laugh at the &quot;overreaction&quot; to the threat.  If we do nothing and a disease emerges, everyone gets angry and tells acts why we did not do our job.  

The truth of the matter is, diseases are highly unpredictable.  At this moment, there are thousands of epidemiologists and public health workers flying into the center of the epidemic in Mexico to track this disease and determine the best ways to contain it.   I&#039;d like to see how many of you would be willing to go with them right now.   Please don&#039;t mock the efforts of the people educated to deal with these problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to see some commenters here are actively and correctly analyzing the threat of swine flu.   I am currently obtaining a masters degree in global public health with a focus on emerging infectious diseases.   Let's note a few things of important:</p>
<p>1.  The Spanish flu originally circulated as a moderately infectious and virulent strain before mutating and killing 30 million people.   The ability for the strain to attenuate is largely due to the lack of containment and surveillance of the disease.</p>
<p>2.  I assume most of you are healthy adults.  This strain of flu is more deadly to healthy adults.  The over-response of the immune system in healthy adults is usually the cause of death, rather than the actual virus itself.</p>
<p>3.  Why have prior pandemics been able to spread so quickly?  Well, lets simply apply some common-knowledge to that one.  No internet.  A lack of global surveillance.  When the media can disseminate information to a large number of people quickly and those people can take precautions, the ability for the flu to spread is reduced.  Obviously this is not the sole or main reason the flu isn't a pandemic yet, but it's certain a factor.</p>
<p>4.  Comparing car crash mortality rates and influenza mortality rates is simply  ridiculous.  Yes, car crashes are a major problem.  Go ahead and list off every god damn probably cause of death you want and talk about how "more people die every day of disease/accident/x."  The truth of this matter is, if you all found out in a few months, when this disease subsides, that a highly infectious and potentially deadly strain of flu was infecting hundred of persons in the U.S, Mexico, Europe and a host of other nations, YOU WOULD BE LIGHTING UP MESSAGE BOARDS bitching about the lack of transparency in government and media.  This point is the one that irks me that post as a person working in public health.   If we do EVERYTHING we can to keep you safe from disease, people act bratty and laugh at the "overreaction" to the threat.  If we do nothing and a disease emerges, everyone gets angry and tells acts why we did not do our job.  </p>
<p>The truth of the matter is, diseases are highly unpredictable.  At this moment, there are thousands of epidemiologists and public health workers flying into the center of the epidemic in Mexico to track this disease and determine the best ways to contain it.   I'd like to see how many of you would be willing to go with them right now.   Please don't mock the efforts of the people educated to deal with these problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeep</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1694018</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your vegetarian, do you get the &quot;Toflu&quot;?</description>
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		<title>By: Jeep</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1693992</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone got a trough drop?</description>
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		<title>By: GQ</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1693935</link>
		<dc:creator>GQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;@GQ- As far as I see it, there is virtually no communication about car crashes…!
Is that why there are also no shirts on car victims…?&quot;

I don&#039;t really know what you mean here but if you think that no one talks about deaths on roads then you&#039;re just not listening hard enough. 


&quot;So many deaths but it is deemed non-important in the greater scheme of things while at the same time the common flu under the old and the very young on yearly basis worldly still kills far more than this new Mexican flu?&quot;

I don&#039;t know if that statistic is true but while anyone can get the regular flu, it rarely kills healthy people. ANYONE can get swine flu because no one is immune to it and it can, frankly, kill anyone who doesn&#039;t recieve the correct treatment in time. A slightly bigger deal, wouldn&#039;t you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"@GQ- As far as I see it, there is virtually no communication about car crashes…!<br />
Is that why there are also no shirts on car victims…?"</p>
<p>I don't really know what you mean here but if you think that no one talks about deaths on roads then you're just not listening hard enough. </p>
<p>"So many deaths but it is deemed non-important in the greater scheme of things while at the same time the common flu under the old and the very young on yearly basis worldly still kills far more than this new Mexican flu?"</p>
<p>I don't know if that statistic is true but while anyone can get the regular flu, it rarely kills healthy people. ANYONE can get swine flu because no one is immune to it and it can, frankly, kill anyone who doesn't recieve the correct treatment in time. A slightly bigger deal, wouldn't you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikos</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1693877</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense, but some people here are really ignorant or more so being stupid about contagious diseases that have the potential of becoming pandemics.  So far, the official statistics say that MORE THAN HALF of the people infected with the Swine flu died! And that is not just the old and the weak. Healthy people.  Have you been sick with the flu recently?  Then you do you know how fast flu spreads.  During the Spanish flu more 1 billion people were infected and 30 million died! The Black Death pandemic wiped out MORE THAN HALF the population of Europe at the time!  If those things are not contained they can spread extremely quickly among populations.  A pandemic at our time would be a global disaster of unprecedented scale!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense, but some people here are really ignorant or more so being stupid about contagious diseases that have the potential of becoming pandemics.  So far, the official statistics say that MORE THAN HALF of the people infected with the Swine flu died! And that is not just the old and the weak. Healthy people.  Have you been sick with the flu recently?  Then you do you know how fast flu spreads.  During the Spanish flu more 1 billion people were infected and 30 million died! The Black Death pandemic wiped out MORE THAN HALF the population of Europe at the time!  If those things are not contained they can spread extremely quickly among populations.  A pandemic at our time would be a global disaster of unprecedented scale!</p>
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		<title>By: Foreigner1</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/28/swine-flu-bacons-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1693760</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreigner1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GQ- As far as I see it, there is virtually no communication about car crashes...!
Is that why there are also no shirts on car victims...?

So many deaths but it is deemed non-important in the greater scheme of things while at the same time the common flu under the old and the very young on yearly basis worldly still kills far more than this new Mexican flu?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GQ- As far as I see it, there is virtually no communication about car crashes...!<br />
Is that why there are also no shirts on car victims...?</p>
<p>So many deaths but it is deemed non-important in the greater scheme of things while at the same time the common flu under the old and the very young on yearly basis worldly still kills far more than this new Mexican flu?</p>
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