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	<title>Comments on: Saudi Arabia: Cheeky License Plates Banned, Child Marriages Still OK</title>
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		<title>By: wli192s</title>
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		<dc:creator>wli192s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Modern&quot; Saudi Arabia is as advanced in their thinking today as First Century Near and Middle Eastern societies were then.  Mary, the mother of Jesus was married, through arrangement, to Joseph before they had sex, if your version of &quot;history&quot; allows they had sex at all.  Joseph was a man in his thirties (in keeping with First Century Jewish Tradition) and Mary was a girl (in present day American thought) of twelve or thirteen when she passed through her first menses.  

At this point, so the story goes, the &quot;Holy Spirit&quot; impregnated her with Jesus.  While Joseph was grousing at his young bride&#039;s pregnancy, an &quot;angel&quot; appeared to him and said Mary was pregnant with the child of God; and to go ahead with the wedding and not to &quot;put her away.&quot;  This meant to divorce her.  So, while the &quot;Father of Jesus,&quot; acted well within the cultural morals of First Century Jews, the Christian God is a pedophile by the cultural morals of 21st Century America.

Try to imagine what it must have been like for Joseph.  &quot;Hi, Honey, how was your...  You&#039;re WHAT?  PREGNANT?  Well, we both know it wasn&#039;t ME!  I didn&#039;t even know you could get preg--by the way, why didn&#039;t you tell ME you&#039;d had your first period?  Now, tell me who I get to sue for taking my virgin bride&#039;s hymen?  GOD?  Oh, that&#039;s great, Mary.  You&#039;re telling me God impregnated you?  There&#039;s a lot of that going around.  He&#039;s getting kind of randy of late, don&#039;t you think.  My sister told our parents the same thing and two of my cousins tried to tell their parents the same thing.  My parents had to give back the dowry to my sister&#039;s human husband, and then my sister eloped with some teenager from Jerusalem.  A year later, she comes home with a baby my mother has to take care of and goes off to flirt with the man she was supposed to marry in the first place. If you knew my nephew, you&#039;d agree with my mom that he&#039;s definitely NOT the son of God.  So who is it this time, Mary?  Still &quot;God,&quot; huh?  What?  You still want to marry me?  You want me to help you raise the son of God?  Will God be paying child support?  Yeah, I know this is serious.  I paid a lot of money to be the first guy in there, so if I find out who beat me to it, I&#039;ll seriously take it out of his hide.&quot;   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Modern" Saudi Arabia is as advanced in their thinking today as First Century Near and Middle Eastern societies were then.  Mary, the mother of Jesus was married, through arrangement, to Joseph before they had sex, if your version of "history" allows they had sex at all.  Joseph was a man in his thirties (in keeping with First Century Jewish Tradition) and Mary was a girl (in present day American thought) of twelve or thirteen when she passed through her first menses.  </p>
<p>At this point, so the story goes, the "Holy Spirit" impregnated her with Jesus.  While Joseph was grousing at his young bride's pregnancy, an "angel" appeared to him and said Mary was pregnant with the child of God; and to go ahead with the wedding and not to "put her away."  This meant to divorce her.  So, while the "Father of Jesus," acted well within the cultural morals of First Century Jews, the Christian God is a pedophile by the cultural morals of 21st Century America.</p>
<p>Try to imagine what it must have been like for Joseph.  "Hi, Honey, how was your...  You're WHAT?  PREGNANT?  Well, we both know it wasn't ME!  I didn't even know you could get preg--by the way, why didn't you tell ME you'd had your first period?  Now, tell me who I get to sue for taking my virgin bride's hymen?  GOD?  Oh, that's great, Mary.  You're telling me God impregnated you?  There's a lot of that going around.  He's getting kind of randy of late, don't you think.  My sister told our parents the same thing and two of my cousins tried to tell their parents the same thing.  My parents had to give back the dowry to my sister's human husband, and then my sister eloped with some teenager from Jerusalem.  A year later, she comes home with a baby my mother has to take care of and goes off to flirt with the man she was supposed to marry in the first place. If you knew my nephew, you'd agree with my mom that he's definitely NOT the son of God.  So who is it this time, Mary?  Still "God," huh?  What?  You still want to marry me?  You want me to help you raise the son of God?  Will God be paying child support?  Yeah, I know this is serious.  I paid a lot of money to be the first guy in there, so if I find out who beat me to it, I'll seriously take it out of his hide."   </p>
<p>Or something like that...</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
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		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, puberty schmuberty.  I don&#039;t know any eleven-year-olds with the agency to enter into healthy balanced sexual relationships with full-grown men.  I&#039;m pretty annoyingly culturally relativistic, but man am I glad I don&#039;t live in Saudi Arabia.  Cultures that nurture the continued oppression of young girls (hi female circumcision!) need to take a good long look in a dirty broken mirror shard.  A*sholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, puberty schmuberty.  I don't know any eleven-year-olds with the agency to enter into healthy balanced sexual relationships with full-grown men.  I'm pretty annoyingly culturally relativistic, but man am I glad I don't live in Saudi Arabia.  Cultures that nurture the continued oppression of young girls (hi female circumcision!) need to take a good long look in a dirty broken mirror shard.  A*sholes.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is &quot;child marriage&quot; misleading? If the guy marries a child, it&#039;s a child marriage.

The idea of not having sex until she reaches puberty is silly. A girl could reach puberty at 12 years of age, some even earlier. 

A marriage contract is ideally, a contract entered into between two conesnting adults, not between one adult, one child, and the child&#039;s parent/guardian. We don&#039;t even consider a person an adult until long after puberty strikes.

Edgar Allan Poe is an example of someone who married a young bride - in fact, there appeared to be some fudging of her age at the time. I&#039;m sure she at least reached puberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is "child marriage" misleading? If the guy marries a child, it's a child marriage.</p>
<p>The idea of not having sex until she reaches puberty is silly. A girl could reach puberty at 12 years of age, some even earlier. </p>
<p>A marriage contract is ideally, a contract entered into between two conesnting adults, not between one adult, one child, and the child's parent/guardian. We don't even consider a person an adult until long after puberty strikes.</p>
<p>Edgar Allan Poe is an example of someone who married a young bride - in fact, there appeared to be some fudging of her age at the time. I'm sure she at least reached puberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Iru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what are you amazed at?
Saudi Arabia is a medieval place, their rulers are tyrants, but somehow they are well-looked in the &quot;civilized&quot; world... wonder why this could be... oh wait! Sorry, i have to fill my car and we can continue later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what are you amazed at?<br />
Saudi Arabia is a medieval place, their rulers are tyrants, but somehow they are well-looked in the "civilized" world... wonder why this could be... oh wait! Sorry, i have to fill my car and we can continue later.</p>
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		<title>By: Gauldar</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/12/saudi-arabia-no-on-cheeky-license-plates-yes-on-child-marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-1643166</link>
		<dc:creator>Gauldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad,

Chances are they have had sex already.  There&#039;s a difference between how we would like the world to be, and how it actualy is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad,</p>
<p>Chances are they have had sex already.  There's a difference between how we would like the world to be, and how it actualy is.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Cloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Cloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I agree with this at all, but the headline is a bit misleading. The judge required the husband to sign a pledge stating that he wouldn&#039;t have sex with the girl until she reaches puberty. I think that most people reading the word &quot;marriage&quot; would normally assume there&#039;s sex involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I agree with this at all, but the headline is a bit misleading. The judge required the husband to sign a pledge stating that he wouldn't have sex with the girl until she reaches puberty. I think that most people reading the word "marriage" would normally assume there's sex involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We should know that Sharia law has not brought injustice to women&quot;

PFUAAAHAHAH! Good joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"We should know that Sharia law has not brought injustice to women"</p>
<p>PFUAAAHAHAH! Good joke!</p>
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		<title>By: Bat21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bat21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johnny Cat,

You&#039;re thinking of Grover Cleveland.  While he id know his wife, Frances Folsom, since she was a baby, he proposed and married her after she graduated college, when she was 21.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johnny Cat,</p>
<p>You're thinking of Grover Cleveland.  While he id know his wife, Frances Folsom, since she was a baby, he proposed and married her after she graduated college, when she was 21.</p>
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		<title>By: Tempscire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tempscire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny Cat, Frances Folsom Cleveland was the youngest First Lady and though apparently Grover had supervised her upbringing (he&#039;d been friends with her father), she was still 21 when she married. Is this what you were thinking of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny Cat, Frances Folsom Cleveland was the youngest First Lady and though apparently Grover had supervised her upbringing (he'd been friends with her father), she was still 21 when she married. Is this what you were thinking of?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jill: yeah, but in that social structure, that is called being on the cutting edge of manliness.  Kinda like John Wayne, only stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jill: yeah, but in that social structure, that is called being on the cutting edge of manliness.  Kinda like John Wayne, only stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear, you honour, she told me she was 15.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear, you honour, she told me she was 15.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t one of the Presidents of the US do this very kind of thing?  Marry a girl he knew when she was a kid, and waited for her to be old enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn't one of the Presidents of the US do this very kind of thing?  Marry a girl he knew when she was a kid, and waited for her to be old enough?</p>
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		<title>By: zav</title>
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		<dc:creator>zav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;to annual the marriage:&quot;

Annual?  Annual means &quot;to reoccur on a yearly basis.&quot;
I think you mean annul, not annual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"to annual the marriage:"</p>
<p>Annual?  Annual means "to reoccur on a yearly basis."<br />
I think you mean annul, not annual.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Harness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Harness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And text messages can be used to divorce someone
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090409/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_saudi_divorce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And text messages can be used to divorce someone<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090409/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_saudi_divorce" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090409/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_saudi_divorce</a></p>
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		<title>By: DaveL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG U10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG U10</p>
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		<title>By: Geekazoid</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/04/12/saudi-arabia-no-on-cheeky-license-plates-yes-on-child-marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-1642045</link>
		<dc:creator>Geekazoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh-oh.  I highly doubt the usual complainers will worry too much about politics on neatorama in this case, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh-oh.  I highly doubt the usual complainers will worry too much about politics on neatorama in this case, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: chet</title>
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		<dc:creator>chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those who think she’s too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her.&quot;

Damn straight. Just like it&#039;s unfair to deny kindergardeners their god given right to work in coal mines or automobile factories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Those who think she’s too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her."</p>
<p>Damn straight. Just like it's unfair to deny kindergardeners their god given right to work in coal mines or automobile factories.</p>
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