@ Desere: we added a folding line in the P-Mate, so you can put it in your back pocket of your trousers, or carry it discretly in a (small) purse.

@ Ted: Yes the P-Mate is used by lesbians and women who think they’re men… also. But that is just a very small percentage. Most (happy) users are between 15 and 80 years. Your ideas are from 2 centuries ago. Shame on you!
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It’s funny how you accuse Ted of the same thing you are doing. You assume that because he says “Yes, this is used by lesbians and women who think they’re men. Stuff like this has been around forever.” that what he means is “Ted, Ted, Ted. Things (and people) that deviate from the norm are not automatically stupid or invalid.” Now you tell me where his statement said anything about people deviating from the norm are automatically stupid. Seems like you are putting his comment into a certin category of people who don’t agree with yours, and in doing so invalidate your original argument.

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Just check our website for alle details.
And… it is a briliant product for women!

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I will admit that I am jealose of men being able to stand and not pee on their feet. This device was not created to help women feel like men – it was created because of situations such as unsanitary public restrooms and camping. I saw the inventer on TV talking about it years ago on some good morning broadcast. Let’s face it – squatting to pee is messing business and inaccurate at best. I am certain that use of this device does not mitgate the need for tissue. Now when they solve that with the P-mate then I’ll spend my precious money on it. Otherwise I think it is a cute idea that I will not buy. And if I am so inclined to need one I will cut out a piece of cardboard and make one.

Happy debating!

Got that, Ted?

Yes, I can be dismissive, usually with things I find too silly, or self-indulgent “here’s a series of pictures of me for the past 20 years” ho-hum. I can sometimes be knocked off my high horse (and laugh about it), as long as the argument is cogent.

And I don’t really picture you much as a troll – you like a good scrum, though.

(and by the way, this product actually reminds me of astronauts for some reason)

@Ted, regarding marketing, I hadn’t seen that, and mostly hear from women who appreciate the product in a camping context when the issue comes up (see #17).

Thanks for considering the accuracy (and maybe the sensitivity/awareness) angle for the future. But speaking of accuracy, I don’t go out of my way to call you out on things for the sake of it. I’ve often chimed in with a friendly word for you. I can’t keep my mouth shut, though, when I think you’re being over-broad or disparaging in a stereotypical way in your observations. And I know you’re not a troll or stupid, which is why I bother.

Would that you could give me similar credit. I don’t recall your accusing me of trolling, but I don’t think I qualify as any kind of purposelessly argumentative voice. But I also don’t think I should keep quiet about things that sound/feel wrong when I see them. My comments aren’t attacks; they are pointings-out-of-awareness-gaps, as my own perspective understands them.

I would actually like us to be able to play-fight in a friendly way, quite honestly. But you usually seem dismissive. I’m sure I come off like that sometimes too, though. Whatever, circle of life.

This type of product has been marketed to lesbians and “transgendered” people for many years. My data is strictly personal experience. The only places I’ve seen it marketed is in stores that cater to alternative lifestyles. Tell me, do you see another market for this type of product? Are all of your heterosexual lady friends rushing out to purchase a product that helps them “pee like a man”?

I will try to be more accurate in my observations in the future. Unless, as I am beginning to suspect, you actually relish the opportunity to debate. Didn’t I suspect you were trolling once, long ago?

Johnny Cat, I’m not always so inflexible. If a really good debater came along, I could be swayed from an opinion. Chudez had a good point about the long lines at the bathroom, for example. So, this product could be more practical than a strap-on dildo, had it truly been designed for that purpose.

As for the product. “Simply pop open the P-Mate and move your panties aside…” That doesn’t sound simple, sanitary, or at all an improvement of the old way.

You then mention strap-ons, which as a sexual device is connected to lesbians and transgendered people (which is I suppose what you were referring to with the imprecise and potentially offensive phrase “women who think they’re men”), creating a thread in your comment that seems to go out of its way to marginalize these groups and generalize about them.

Just because you don’t appreciate the value of something doesn’t make it stupid. And the composition of your comment seems to connect people whose identities and practices which fall outside the norm with irrelevance and invalidity. They are not.

also, don’t these increase the risk for a yeast infection?

fascinating

I own one and it’s quite useful for camping, concerts, and tailgaiting… try it a couple times at home lest you want to wind up with a lil accident on yourself

I did not label any thing or person deviating from the norm as automatically stupid or invalid.

I think the device is a dumb idea. Chudez actually gave a good reply to my comment, but let’s face it – the point of this device is not to avoid line-ups in the ladies room.

There are some men who don’t pee standing up. It doesn’t transform them into women – they’re still men. And if you’re a woman who pees standing up, you’re not suddenly transformed into a man.

The delusion is that peeing standing up somehow empowers a person. The people who are fooled by that sort of logic are limited in their viewpoint.

very limited thinking in more ways than one. there are legitimate reasons why a “normal” woman may want to use this (and by “normal” i do not mean to brand other women as “abnormal” — i’m speaking strictly speaking of normal meaning the majority population; anyhoo…). the reason why there is always an ungodly long queue at the women’s CR is because of the mechanics involved in peeing for females. if the physical motions can be simplified (as it is for males, where they literally just need to whip it out) then there are obvious benefits … but the current product seems a little unsanitary.

These urinals stuck pretty far out from the wall with the intention that the woman would squat slightly over it to urinate. Of course, the designers thought women would be wearing skirts/dresses, thus making it pretty easy to use. Unfortunately for the designers, about the time these urinals came out, women started to wear jeans/pants and the idea died.

Some of my favorite film stars use strap ons, and they’re not stupid.

Stupid as a strap-on dildo.

http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/10/shenis.html

Anyways….. BLEH on the website.. I don’t want to freakin see photos of women using the dang thing! I mean yeah you can’t see anything, but just knowing that they’re using it is just…… BLEH