Find the Ladies (the Israeli Cabinet Version)

By Alex in Politics, Religion on Apr 5, 2009 at 12:24 pm

Take a close look at the two photos above. Notice anything different?

Well, the original photo (top) is of Israel’s new cabinet. Problem is, it contains two female ministers. Since publishing pictures of women are considered a no-no for many ultra-orthodox Jews as a violation of female modesty, the Yated Neeman newspaper decided to do a little photoshoppin’: Link


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  1. Kalel
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Hello. I just wanted to say Hi before this long argument thread about Israel begins.

  2. Alex
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Nothing witty, Kalel? I’ve come to expect better from you! ;)

  3. Alex
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Oh, and please don’t argue about Israel.

  4. Alicia
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Interesting article. KOSHER TELEPHONES?!! I am so glad I’m not Orthodox Jewish…

  5. Kalel
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Ah, I rather thought I was being witty.

    Allow me to amend:

    “A woman’s place is in the kitchen cabinet?”

  6. Christophe
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    We need to remind all those people where they coming from. With maybe an exemption for C-section people.

  7. Woogie
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Why exempt the c-section people? If anything their mothers suffered more than the vaginal birth ones.

  8. Foreigner1
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    :?: Women…?

    …What women?

    :shocked: Truly, these folks have the strangest ideas….. :-?

  9. Ray
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    At least they just photoshop them.
    The other religion in the area in the region flogs, stones or shoots women for appearing with men.

  10. VonSkippy
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Hard to believe that such a large percentage of the worlds population can still be so stupid (and self deluded) here in the 21st century.

  11. JM
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    You’re referring to Christianity, right Ray? Or do you mean the Durze? Or the Atheists? Or the Muslims? Maybe you should learn a bit about the middle east before you make such broad statements.

  12. seefish3
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Ditto, Von Skippy.

    “And that, my Leige, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped.”
    “This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere! Tell me again, how sheep’s bladders can be employed to prevent earthquakes.”

  13. Ray
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    I’m talking about the Muslims JM. And you know it.
    What other religions are known for murdering women, in the name of god?

    And it’s DRUZE not Durze. Which is a muslim sect as well, but you’d already know that being a middle east expert and all.

  14. Johnny Cat
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    In the lower photo, the women are seemingly replaced by some random dudes. Are those the editors? Hilarious!

  15. Allan
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Other Israeli papers reprinted the altered images next to the original photos, with one headlining it “Find the lady”.

  16. earbox
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    @Alicia: Yep, kosher telephones. It uses a different method of detecting button presses so that it can be used without violating Shabbat.

  17. Geekazoid
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    First of all, if this was a picture of Muslim/Islamic leaders and women were forced out of the picture, I doubt some would be as genial.

    Second, what other religions are known for murdering women? Many, but really one doesn’t have to look farther than your own backyards. Just one small example, the former president of the U.S. waged war in the middle east on false pretenses, with the backing of the religious right. In fact many christian leaders/christians on the right in America fully supported the war in Iraq (and still do), thinking it’s a fundamental war against Islam and whatnot. Needless to say hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, children, and babies have been killed in this fiasco.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1010-02.htm

    http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-6329882/Bush-summons-religious -right-to.html

  18. MightyCow
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Man, sometimes religion is really weird. Is the photo going to steal someone’s soul too?

  19. Mouserz
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    this is why religion is stupid.

  20. Sweet Jesus
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    I can’t believe that grown adults would be ass-backward. What is this, the middle ages? Oh, no, just the middle east.

  21. Jill
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Wow…the ultra-orthodox crowd must be kind of stupid if by just omitting the females from the picture will fool them into thinking that there are no women in the cabinet.

  22. DOJ
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Based on the title, I thought this post was going to be about the difference in apparent dress codes between two governments

  23. Patricio
    Apr 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Stupid, stupid people. And the best part is that we’re paying for it and being held hostage by it here in America. We’re thousands of miles away but still strangled in the tentacles of middle eastern superstitions, xtians, jews, and muslims. And the double-best part is that if you criticize any of them, you get called out for being “prejudiced”. Especially the jews, who call anybody who looks at them funny an “anti-semite”. What a wonderful thing, religion….

  24. Ajan
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    That’s seriously weird. Fortunately for them/us the media didn’t perform any Sex reassignment surgery ;)

  25. inkedkoi
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 3:57 am

    so… if they knew the women would be cut-out in the end, then why have them pose for the photo in the first place??

  26. Thebes
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 3:58 am

    Random dude standin on the left looks a lot like Rahm Emanuel.

    This is the bastion of mid-east freedom we give tens of billions in foreign aid too??? Some of their newspapers won’t even print pictures of females clad in attire appropriate for their Cabinet members???

  27. Leela
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 4:34 am

    Hahahaha, reminds me of Monty Pythons “Life of Brian” when all those ladies (wearing fake beards) gather to enforce the law over someone saying “Yehova!”
    Nowadays you have Photoshop.. or who knows, maybe its just the SAME ladies in disguise??
    LOL!

  28. BikerRay
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 5:12 am

    At least they don’t condone white phosphorus rockets. Oh, wait…

  29. Robin
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    When men are oppressed, it’s “tragedy”.
    When women are oppressed, it’s “tradition”.

  30. Floyd
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Can’t see such big differences beteween ultra-orthodox and islamists. Same dog different leash.

  31. Floyd
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    beteween ->between

  32. Gauldar
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Sigh… When will the stupidity stop? Could be worse though, could be this:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/28/AR2009 032801936.html

    I’m surprised that only a handfull of religions have been mentioned, the list goes on from there (I’m talkin about the big “C” if ya know what I mean, and all of it’s 1000 of versions). But if people want to live their life stuck in the past, all the power to them if I’m not the one that has to deal with it.

  33. Noa
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    As an Israeli, just let me add that the photo without the ladies was used for religious newspapers. in such papers its even common to erase women from ads.

    yes, it’s stupid.

  34. required
    Apr 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    I think the word for these men is pharisee. What makes it so pathetic is that instead of censoring the women (which is within itself crass to say the least) they went out of their way to replace them.

  35. ersatz
    Apr 7th, 2009 at 8:05 am

    Kosher telephones? I never knew tricking God was so easy. Why don’t they just wrap their pork chops in banana skins?

  36. Miocly
    Apr 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    My my, people who comment here really don’t know much.

    inkedkoi: so… if they knew the women would be cut-out in the end, then why have them pose for the photo in the first place??

    Because the real picture was shown in all of the big, mainstream newspapers. The only newspapers that showed the photoshopped version were the ones written by and for the ultra-orthodox, who don’t want to see pictures of women. It’s really just a fringe of the really religious ones who are this far-out, and in any case it’s their right to do so, just like it’s your right to watch pornography if you want.

    VonSkippy: It’s such a tiny part of the Jews who are like that, and the Jews themselves only amount to what, 0.2% of the world population? So what large percentage are you talking about?

    Jill:Wow…the ultra-orthodox crowd must be kind of stupid if by just omitting the females from the picture will fool them into thinking that there are no women in the cabinet.

    Well no, they’re just not showing the pics because they don’t want to have to see pictures of women who are not their wives. They’re not pretending there aren’t any women in the parliament, their names and all were mentioned. Just not the pics. It’s not that hard ya’ll…

    And FYI, the ladies weren’t replaced with random guys, the two men were on or near the edges of the original (wider) picture.

    And some other comments are really beyond stupid…

  37. glen
    Apr 8th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Israel = evil. Lavon affair, USS Liberty, on and on…

    End Hate. End Zionism.

  38. hotea1313
    Jul 14th, 2009 at 9:13 am

    ok the comment about kosher phones was jsut stupid my sister has one the only difference between it and a regular phone is that it has no internet no text and no way of adding tunes to it so it basically is just a phones

    i live in Israel and i have never heard of that newspaper the charedi (the ultra Orthodox) have alot of their own newspapers i just find it interesting to point out that neeman means honest or truthful kinda weird and whats yeted probably just some bad transliteration (btw i am orthodox jew)


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