Gobekli Tepe: Is it the Garden of Eden?

By Alex in Travel on Feb 28, 2009 at 4:18 pm

On a summer day in 1994, a Kurdish shepherd stumbled upon a strange stone in the rolling plains of Gobekli Tepe in Turkey. Little did he know then that he had just made what could be the greatest archaeological discovery ever: the possible site of the Garden of Eden.

Carbon-dating shows that the complex is at least 12,000 years old, maybe even 13,000 years old. That means it was built around 10,000BC. By comparison, Stonehenge was built in 3,000 BC and the pyramids of Giza in 2,500 BC.

Gobekli is thus the oldest such site in the world, by a mind-numbing margin. It is so old that it predates settled human life. It is pre-pottery, pre-writing, pre-everything. Gobekli hails from a part of human history that is unimaginably distant, right back in our hunter-gatherer past. [...]

Over glasses of black tea, served in tents right next to the megaliths, Klaus Schmidt told me that, in his opinion, this very spot was once the site of the biblical Garden of Eden. More specifically, as he put it: ‘Gobekli Tepe is a temple in Eden.’

Tom Cox of the Mail Online has more on this fascinating story: Link


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  1. Neslock
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Interesting that the author of the article has a novel to sell called “The Genesis Secret”, hmmm?

    One of the posters at the original article said it well:

    “Although a very important archaeological discovery, claiming it to be the mythical Garden of Eden is as likely as it being Supermans Fortress of Solitude.”

  2. aging hipster
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    oh. I pictured it to be greener.

  3. Tony LaRocca
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    I was going to say something, but the “Fortress of Solitude” comment says it perfectly.

  4. Jim R Feliciano
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    In the Bible no structures are mentioned in the Eden story. Evolution sort of indicates Eden is a myth with no basis in reality. The terrain around this structure was probably very different 10,000 years ago. Myth should not be included in figuring out the source of this structure.

  5. Evilbeagle
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    The Garden of Eden is myth. Where ancients placed this myth isn’t, necessarily. The trick is to keep mythology separate from history and all will be fine.

  6. LisaL
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Totally agree Jim

  7. Kevin
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    This would be so interesting if I believed that a myth that was created so that women could be blamed for original sin was true.

  8. eni
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Seriously? I’m the only one who thinks this is interesting from a purely archeological standpoint? That art is absolutely fascinating.

  9. andrew
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    breaking news! Paleontologists discover bones of unicorns!

  10. Johnny Cat
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    12,000 years. Wouldn’t that pre-date eden, since the story goes that was 6,000 years ago? Cool, then. Aliens.

  11. Jose C.
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    13,000 does NOT pre-date humans on the Earth by a long stretch.

  12. HollywoodBob
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Seems to me that Mr Schmidt has an agenda that he’s working really hard to prove.

    A site as important as one of the oldest known “cities” would seems to me worthy of far more study than a single archeologist running one small excavation. 45 stone pillars with hundreds more to go, doesn’t seems like a lot of progress for 15 years of work.

  13. Terry
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    There are literally thousands of human settlements and human skeletons that have been found and carbon dated to 250,000bc or more. Just as a direct contradiction to the article this site is not pre-pottery, for instance there are pottery factories in Europe that have been dated to 26,000bc. And when I say factories I really mean large scale with hundreds of thousands of broken idols over a large area. Given those indisputable facts the title of this linked article.

    “Do these mysterious stones mark the site of the Garden of Eden?”

    Is quite clearly an attempt to gain publicity and to sensationalise. And the content although interesting, for me comes with an immediate question mark dues to the propensity to exaggerate.

  14. Cordelia
    Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    A couple of things worth noting:

    1. The writer of the article is trying to promote his Dan Brown-esque book, and leading with a forced comparison between an archaeological discovery of incalculable importance and a christian myth helps him promote his book. This certainly isn’t the first time a journalist has pressed an archaeologist for a quote that can be bent to serve an inaccurate lead. Even the NYT has done this, forcing renowned archaeologists to hedgingly acknowledge that a site “could possibly, *in theory* be that of —- fill in the blank: Atlantis, Homer’s Troy, etc. when that really isn’t a scholarly claim.

    2. Some of you might find Adrienne Mayor’s book, “The First Fossil Hunters” interesting. It proves that myths can – at least sometimes – take root in historical events without the myths themselves being true. In the book, Mayor shows that the greco-romans made accidental archaeological excavations of dinosaur remains and the best way they could explain the discoveries were through the myths of Griffins, giants, etc.

  15. AK-00
    Mar 1st, 2009 at 5:39 am

    I’m genuinely shocked by how close-minded the commenters here are being. Is it really that hard to believe that the Eden myth could be a reference to a real place, distorted over the course of ten thousand years worth of retelling?

  16. Gisen
    Mar 1st, 2009 at 6:39 am

    AK-00, it’s not the same thing to claim that the myth could be based roughly on a real place as to claim that “THE GARDEN OF EDEN HAS BEEN FOUND” as the wacko in the article is claiming.

    It’s close-minded to interpret everything in terms of claiming that made up stories by bronze age goat herders are true.

  17. Gisen
    Mar 1st, 2009 at 6:42 am

    And what part of the myth do you think refers to reality? The talking snakes? The magical rib-woman? The omniscient deity wandering around unaware of where anyone is?
    Oh, the name is the same. Well that proves it then, it is based on reality. WRONG!

  18. Orjan Morjan
    Mar 1st, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Wow, another post from the DAILY MAIL! Don’t spread the dumb!

  19. different alex
    Mar 1st, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    also: carbon dating shows how old the rock is. not how long ago it was cut and stacked up.

  20. Str4y
    Mar 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    I have to agree with a few people here who are noting closed-mindedness of posts.
    I’m not a religious person, but I do believe that a great deal of the bible has basis in fact–because a lot of it was a history of a people, and when people don’t understand the science behind things, they turn to mystical reasons. Around the time the GoE was to have existed, there was an ice age, and due to weather coming down from the not-so-far-away frozen north, the area that is now desert was likely lush and bountiful, with plenty of water, plants and animals. Then, the ice age ended, the region dried up, and I bet that a group of people felt like someone must have done something to offend God, to make him take away their beautiful ‘garden’.
    Seriously, people…just because people you don’t agree with believe in something doesn’t mean that they are just talking out their butts.

  21. silverbullitt
    Mar 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    ah yes stray… good point , and a lot of other biblical events can be explained nowadays because we know so much more about the planet we live on .
    and therein lies the problem ..2000 years ago , they didnt know anything and religion and gods were used to explain things that people couldnt understand . And as such are a relic of older times , and have absolutely no place in a modern society .

  22. JayTwilight
    Mar 4th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Awwww, where’s the angel with the flaming sword?

  23. WickerMan
    Mar 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    There are still a number of problems with the accuracy of Carbon Dating, that would be my first area to question.
    Second, what has this site to do with Christianity, and how was this determined?

  24. Half Hear
    Mar 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am

    Interesting to me is that this story hasn’t gotten more play. I regularly read the larger news sources and only when I go off the beaten path do I see things like this. Fascination with pyramids and stone henge could be turned to this location. Thanks for posting this. (Oh, on the other thread here, a parallel to the myth of Eden, and the origins of that myth. I don’t blame anyone for trying to ‘make news’ to promote knowledge. How many people are looking at the Bible more critically since Dan Brown’s fiction?)

  25. Slobodan
    Mar 13th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Many places in the Earth, keeping the secrets of Genesis.Montenegro is among them.Our duty is to discovering them and find the Truth.


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