Comments on: PETA Opts to Change “Fish” To “Sea Kittens” http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:23:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378873 Evilbeagle Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:22:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378873 Yeah, I know, I don't shut up sometimes. ted, the reason PETA gets under my skin is because they make people who do work with and for the benefit of animals on a daily basis look bad. When I was in the veterinary field, it was automatically assumed that I supported these clowns. The more I read into what they do and what they believe, the more disgusted I became. I am not an activist by any means, but I do like to get the message about their hypocrisy and aggressive philosophy out to people.A lot of people see them as being very benign, and they are anything but. Yeah, I know, I don’t shut up sometimes.

ted, the reason PETA gets under my skin is because they make people who do work with and for the benefit of animals on a daily basis look bad. When I was in the veterinary field, it was automatically assumed that I supported these clowns. The more I read into what they do and what they believe, the more disgusted I became. I am not an activist by any means, but I do like to get the message about their hypocrisy and aggressive philosophy out to people.A lot of people see them as being very benign, and they are anything but.

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378855 Evilbeagle Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:57:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378855 Indeed, ted. Indeed, ted.

]]> By: Ali S. http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378753 Ali S. Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:08:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378753 Mmmm. Sea Kittens and Chips. Mmmm. Sea Kittens and Chips.

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378487 Christophe Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:09:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378487 and what about butt-flying-monkeys? and what about butt-flying-monkeys?

]]> By: Noelegy http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378469 Noelegy Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:46:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378469 I wish PETA was half as concerned with actually helping to improve the lives of animals as it is with getting attention. This is why I stopped sending them money years ago (I was a vegetarian for almost ten years and PETA was at one time a really useful vegetarian resource) and instead when I can afford to give to charity, I give to organizations like HSUS and ASPCA. I wish PETA was half as concerned with actually helping to improve the lives of animals as it is with getting attention. This is why I stopped sending them money years ago (I was a vegetarian for almost ten years and PETA was at one time a really useful vegetarian resource) and instead when I can afford to give to charity, I give to organizations like HSUS and ASPCA.

]]> By: Carl http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378463 Carl Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:42:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378463 You could call my grouper and salmon fillets "giant ocean maggots" and I'd still eat them. You could call my grouper and salmon fillets “giant ocean maggots” and I’d still eat them.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378427 ted Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:02:40 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378427 I think we've tapped into one of Evilbeagle's tender spots. I think we’ve tapped into one of Evilbeagle’s tender spots.

]]> By: Allison http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378400 Allison Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:49:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378400 I have absolutely no problem with PETA running this campaign. I wish everything they did was like this. Nobody will be "changed" by this campaign and, if I'm right, this is costing a decent amount of money. I think another good campaign would be to take their money, fold it into origami animals and send it in out to people they want to "change" Heck, I would take a couple just for myself! I have absolutely no problem with PETA running this campaign. I wish everything they did was like this. Nobody will be “changed” by this campaign and, if I’m right, this is costing a decent amount of money.

I think another good campaign would be to take their money, fold it into origami animals and send it in out to people they want to “change” Heck, I would take a couple just for myself!

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378327 Evilbeagle Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:03:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378327 Well put, Hollywood Bob. And if calling them out for what they are makes me "as crazy as PETA", so be it. I bet my dogs would be the first to complain if they were forced into the wild! The "e" in PETA is supposed to stand for ethical, which is the biggest joke of all given their tactics and all the puppies they kill. Have I mentioned that I hate PETA? Well put, Hollywood Bob. And if calling them out for what they are makes me “as crazy as PETA”, so be it. I bet my dogs would be the first to complain if they were forced into the wild!

The “e” in PETA is supposed to stand for ethical, which is the biggest joke of all given their tactics and all the puppies they kill.

Have I mentioned that I hate PETA?

]]> By: HollywoodBob http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378273 HollywoodBob Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:16:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378273 PETA advocates a world where no one eats meat, has pets, or uses any animal products. They want all animals to roam free and not be enslaved by evil humans. Where hitting an animal on the road will get you a prison term. So basically they want us all to live in fear of being savaged by wild dog packs, completely unable to protect ourselves if attacked. If they were only about what their name says, they'd be a fine organization, but instead they're a bunch of pet murdering psychos. PETA advocates a world where no one eats meat, has pets, or uses any animal products. They want all animals to roam free and not be enslaved by evil humans. Where hitting an animal on the road will get you a prison term. So basically they want us all to live in fear of being savaged by wild dog packs, completely unable to protect ourselves if attacked. If they were only about what their name says, they’d be a fine organization, but instead they’re a bunch of pet murdering psychos.

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378213 Evilbeagle Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:16:44 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378213 It takes a special kind of crazy to support PETA. It takes a special kind of crazy to support PETA.

]]> By: wowsers http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378095 wowsers Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:38:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378095 what a bunch of liberal BS. what a bunch of liberal BS.

]]> By: Sofar http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1378016 Sofar Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:09:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1378016 I thought vegetarians could still eat fish. I thought vegetarians could still eat fish.

]]> By: GoFish http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377996 GoFish Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:00:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377996 sadtomato - bit of a hypocrite yourself. you've admitted in the past to vandalizing other peoples vehicles because you don't like SUV's so what right have you to pass any form of judgement on someone else? That said, I'm all for the change of name. If it makes PETA happy to have fish called seakitties, then their average moron supporter will be even more horrified by the consumption of live and dead seakitties. sadtomato – bit of a hypocrite yourself. you’ve admitted in the past to vandalizing other peoples vehicles because you don’t like SUV’s so what right have you to pass any form of judgement on someone else?

That said, I’m all for the change of name. If it makes PETA happy to have fish called seakitties, then their average moron supporter will be even more horrified by the consumption of live and dead seakitties.

]]> By: Kate http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377753 Kate Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:26:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377753 Several years ago they tried to petition to have the name changed of a town near me-Fishkill, NY. If I remember correctly, "kill" means "by the river," and Fishkill happens to be on the Hudson. What idiocy. Their money could go towards much, much more useful things than attempting to change names. Several years ago they tried to petition to have the name changed of a town near me-Fishkill, NY. If I remember correctly, “kill” means “by the river,” and Fishkill happens to be on the Hudson. What idiocy. Their money could go towards much, much more useful things than attempting to change names.

]]> By: Scooter http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377590 Scooter Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:42:13 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377590 I in fact had some tasty Sea Kitten sushi just last night. yummy yummy raw Sea Kitty. So if fish are sea Kittens what's a great white shark? A Sea lion. Wait, no that won't work. I in fact had some tasty Sea Kitten sushi just last night. yummy yummy raw Sea Kitty.

So if fish are sea Kittens what’s a great white shark?
A Sea lion. Wait, no that won’t work.

]]> By: silverbullitt http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377586 silverbullitt Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:41:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377586 ggggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr blood boiling ......i cant form coherent sentence cos......they are morons .......sea kittens ...... wtf.... im having a stroke ggggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

blood boiling ……i cant form coherent sentence cos……they are morons …….sea kittens …… wtf…. im having a stroke

]]> By: Ashley http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377484 Ashley Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:04:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377484 This is just another of their media stunts to get attention. It's what they're known for... well, besides hypocrisy. This is just another of their media stunts to get attention. It’s what they’re known for… well, besides hypocrisy.

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377436 Evilbeagle Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:41:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377436 Yes, they are, Polx. Yes, they are, Polx.

]]> By: Polx http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377392 Polx Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:20:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377392 Isn't PETA the largest eutheniser of cats and dogs in the US? Not a joke BTW, they really are. Isn’t PETA the largest eutheniser of cats and dogs in the US?

Not a joke BTW, they really are.

]]> By: Valdis von Squi http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377132 Valdis von Squi Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:19:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377132 I'd like to say I'm a big fan of PETA. People Eating Tasty Animals. I’d like to say I’m a big fan of PETA.

People Eating Tasty Animals.

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377092 Evilbeagle Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:05:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377092 For a running tally on all of PETA's hypocrisy, this is a great site: http://deceiver.com/category/activists/peta-activists/ For a running tally on all of PETA’s hypocrisy, this is a great site:

http://deceiver.com/category/activists/peta-activists/

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377072 Evilbeagle Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:01:21 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377072 Just to add, PETA is not trying to do any good. Just to add, PETA is not trying to do any good.

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377066 Evilbeagle Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:58:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377066 sadtomato, anyone that supports organizations that terrorize laboratories and the scientists that work there, are terrorists themselves. PETA kills more animals than it saves when they kill off 90% of their adoptable animals each year and improperly dispose of them. They push a completely vegan existence and criticize animal based products or animal testing in the medical field, yet the head of PETA depends on insulin to live, which requires both. They are an organization run by idiots for idiots, and use terror tactics on children (Your Mother Kills Bunnies) in order to draw more to their cause. I am an animal lover, have worked with animals, and support animal organizations so long as they are not connected to these people hating terrorists that have no business existing or getting publicity. www.petakillsanimals.com sadtomato, anyone that supports organizations that terrorize laboratories and the scientists that work there, are terrorists themselves. PETA kills more animals than it saves when they kill off 90% of their adoptable animals each year and improperly dispose of them. They push a completely vegan existence and criticize animal based products or animal testing in the medical field, yet the head of PETA depends on insulin to live, which requires both. They are an organization run by idiots for idiots, and use terror tactics on children (Your Mother Kills Bunnies) in order to draw more to their cause. I am an animal lover, have worked with animals, and support animal organizations so long as they are not connected to these people hating terrorists that have no business existing or getting publicity.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com

]]> By: sadtomato http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1377007 sadtomato Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:40:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1377007 Evilbeagle, when you say stuff like that you sound just as crazy as PETA. At least they are trying to do good, how ever misplaced their methods are. Evilbeagle, when you say stuff like that you sound just as crazy as PETA. At least they are trying to do good, how ever misplaced their methods are.

]]> By: Craig http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376901 Craig Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:07:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376901 Oh, PETA, what will you do next? I'm an animal lover myself, and I think PETA's heart is in the right place (for the most part), but their methods stink. Oh, PETA, what will you do next? I’m an animal lover myself, and I think PETA’s heart is in the right place (for the most part), but their methods stink.

]]> By: RevRagnarok http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376856 RevRagnarok Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:48:11 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376856 Yeah, I spotted this a few months ago when they were ramping up a Google ad-word campaign for kitten related things. What a bunch of hypocritical morons. Fish are tasty and provide things our bodies need. We didn't spend billions of years clawing our way up the food chain for tofu. Those pointy teeth we have is for tearing FLESH not FRONDS! Yeah, I spotted this a few months ago when they were ramping up a Google ad-word campaign for kitten related things. What a bunch of hypocritical morons. Fish are tasty and provide things our bodies need. We didn’t spend billions of years clawing our way up the food chain for tofu. Those pointy teeth we have is for tearing FLESH not FRONDS!

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376753 ted Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:55:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376753 I doubt they really are trying to change the name. Sounds like a campaign to raise awareness that what you're eating is a living animal, and maybe you'd be less inclined to eat fish if they were called something like a cat or dog. Yes, it's piffle. I doubt they really are trying to change the name. Sounds like a campaign to raise awareness that what you’re eating is a living animal, and maybe you’d be less inclined to eat fish if they were called something like a cat or dog.

Yes, it’s piffle.

]]> By: Cyberziggy http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376727 Cyberziggy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:42:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376727 So if I'm ever face to face with a school of Piranha, I'll just gleefully yell "Kitties"! So if I’m ever face to face with a school of Piranha, I’ll just gleefully yell “Kitties”!

]]> By: SenorMysterioso http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376538 SenorMysterioso Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:40:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376538 upvote for land fish and lolfish upvote for land fish and lolfish

]]> By: Anon http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376432 Anon Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:53:26 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376432 I'm in the mood for a tabbyfish sandwich now... I’m in the mood for a tabbyfish sandwich now…

]]> By: V.M.L. http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376372 V.M.L. Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:22:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376372 Aww, I think fishes are cute. ^_^ Why change their name? Aww, I think fishes are cute. ^_^ Why change their name?

]]> By: Evilbeagle http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1376173 Evilbeagle Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:37:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1376173 PETA are a bunch of hypocrite terrorists that don't love animals so much as they hate humans. That said, I will happily eat fish, whether they are called sea kittens or not. Like that idiocy will ever catch on. PETA are a bunch of hypocrite terrorists that don’t love animals so much as they hate humans.

That said, I will happily eat fish, whether they are called sea kittens or not. Like that idiocy will ever catch on.

]]> By: Nathan Miller http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1375807 Nathan Miller Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:28:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1375807 Does this justify my eating of raw cat? Does this justify my eating of raw cat?

]]> By: Yum-Yum http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1375727 Yum-Yum Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:54:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1375727 LOLFish- coming to a forum near you. LOLFish- coming to a forum near you.

]]> By: Justin http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1375615 Justin Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:04:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1375615 I hear they are the chicken of the sea. I hear they are the chicken of the sea.

]]> By: Woogie http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1375602 Woogie Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:58:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1375602 PETA are hypocritical evil scum. PETA are hypocritical evil scum.

]]> By: Jill Harness http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1375601 Jill Harness Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:58:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1375601 Mmmmm...delicious land fish Mmmmm…delicious land fish

]]> By: mouserz http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1375599 mouserz Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:54:03 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1375599 I opt to change "Kittens" to "Land Fish". I opt to change “Kittens” to “Land Fish”.

]]> By: Johnny http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/comment-page-1/#comment-1375540 Johnny Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:30:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/peta-opts-to-change-fish-to-sea-kittens/#comment-1375540 Craptastic! Craptastic!

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