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	<title>Comments on: Mess With Your Mind Without Drugs</title>
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		<title>By: guess who!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>guess who!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>y the hell wuld any stick ping-pong balls in half on there face n listen 2 static WTF??!! u will hav 2 be on drugs 2 do tht</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>y the hell wuld any stick ping-pong balls in half on there face n listen 2 static WTF??!! u will hav 2 be on drugs 2 do tht</p>
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		<title>By: charliefrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>charliefrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey where&#039;s the Dream Machine? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey where's the Dream Machine? <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: just a guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>just a guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@edc, I&#039;ve done that too and discovered it as a child. I found that just covering my eyes with my hands while eyes are closed were enough to see spinning checkerboards - but if I rubbed my eyes to I could see some interesting &#039;coronas&#039; or clircles in addition. Not unlike an mp3 visualization program, only not to any music. :P 


@ DylanDoom, I literally LOLed at visualizing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@edc, I've done that too and discovered it as a child. I found that just covering my eyes with my hands while eyes are closed were enough to see spinning checkerboards - but if I rubbed my eyes to I could see some interesting 'coronas' or clircles in addition. Not unlike an mp3 visualization program, only not to any music. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@ DylanDoom, I literally LOLed at visualizing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this one : cross you index and your middle finger. Now close your eyes and rub the tip of your nose with the V shape that your fingers now form. You should feel 2 noses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this one : cross you index and your middle finger. Now close your eyes and rub the tip of your nose with the V shape that your fingers now form. You should feel 2 noses!</p>
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		<title>By: Capella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if one day we&#039;ll come to find out is white noise + ping pong balls halves are the gateway to underworld??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if one day we'll come to find out is white noise + ping pong balls halves are the gateway to underworld??</p>
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		<title>By: fsdoubleflip</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/mess-with-your-mind-without-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1378271</link>
		<dc:creator>fsdoubleflip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually there&#039;s a toy that is based off of that whole sunshine hallucination thing. It&#039;s called the day-tripper, and it looks like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Day-Dreamer-aka-Purple-trip-toy-day-tripper_W0QQitemZ5589134170QQcmdZViewItem

just read the description on how it works. I have one, and when I use it in the sunshine it looks really neat. flashing colors and shapes everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually there's a toy that is based off of that whole sunshine hallucination thing. It's called the day-tripper, and it looks like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Day-Dreamer-aka-Purple-trip-toy-day-tripper_W0QQitemZ5589134170QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/Day-Dreamer-aka-Purple-trip-toy-day-tripper_W0QQit emZ5589134170QQcmdZViewItem</a></p>
<p>just read the description on how it works. I have one, and when I use it in the sunshine it looks really neat. flashing colors and shapes everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Gauldar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gauldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I&#039;ve had it in the ear before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I've had it in the ear before.</p>
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		<title>By: Sofar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like hypnotizing chickens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's like hypnotizing chickens.</p>
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		<title>By: Namowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Namowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comedian at Disneyland would ask the crowd
&quot;Wanna see fireworks....!?
...press your eyeballs real hard!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comedian at Disneyland would ask the crowd<br />
"Wanna see fireworks....!?<br />
...press your eyeballs real hard!"</p>
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		<title>By: Oz Acosta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz Acosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phosphenes always looked like casino carpets or mandalas to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phosphenes always looked like casino carpets or mandalas to me.</p>
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		<title>By: edc</title>
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		<dc:creator>edc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;According to Oster (1970:83) &#039;Seeing Stars&#039; is seeing phosphenes, an experience that can be induced by a blow on the head or by other mechanical means. A less violent procedure is to apply pressure to the eyeballs with the fingers. If, with the eyes closed, one gently touches the lid with the tip of a finger, a phosphene appears: a glowing circle or part of a circle, apparently about a quarter of an inch in diameter. The phosphene&#039;s location in the visual field is opposite the point the finger touches: at the outer edge of the field when the eyelid is touched near the nose, low in the field when the centre of the upper lid is touched. This is discussed in more detail by Walker (1981:142) when he describes all the methods by which phosphenes can be generated by pressure alone.

Increasing the pressure on the eyeball produces more dramatic phosphenes. One procedure is to apply the index fingers at the inner edge of the eyeballs and press in and toward the temples. The visual field lights up and then, as pressure is maintained for a few seconds, a scintillating design appears - a kind of checkerboard or shifting field of glowing dots, sometimes with elaborate substructures arrayed around a luminous centre. When the pressure is released, the checkerboard fades away, sometimes leaving the central luminosity. If the pressure is then renewed, a pattern of bright, irregular lines appears that resembles a system of blood vessels. When the pressure is again released, a fine filigree image appears and remains for some time. The checkerboard design is probably some manifestation of the orderliness of the neural network of the retina; it shifts in the visual field as the gaze is shifted. The filigree, on the other hand, may be generated farther along the visual pathway, since it remains stationary regardless of where one looks. However, there is a degree of individual sensitivity; some people can make phosphenes occur regularly with little provocation and after-images which last a long time, others cannot (Oster 1970:83-4; Brindley 1963).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"According to Oster (1970:83) 'Seeing Stars' is seeing phosphenes, an experience that can be induced by a blow on the head or by other mechanical means. A less violent procedure is to apply pressure to the eyeballs with the fingers. If, with the eyes closed, one gently touches the lid with the tip of a finger, a phosphene appears: a glowing circle or part of a circle, apparently about a quarter of an inch in diameter. The phosphene's location in the visual field is opposite the point the finger touches: at the outer edge of the field when the eyelid is touched near the nose, low in the field when the centre of the upper lid is touched. This is discussed in more detail by Walker (1981:142) when he describes all the methods by which phosphenes can be generated by pressure alone.</p>
<p>Increasing the pressure on the eyeball produces more dramatic phosphenes. One procedure is to apply the index fingers at the inner edge of the eyeballs and press in and toward the temples. The visual field lights up and then, as pressure is maintained for a few seconds, a scintillating design appears - a kind of checkerboard or shifting field of glowing dots, sometimes with elaborate substructures arrayed around a luminous centre. When the pressure is released, the checkerboard fades away, sometimes leaving the central luminosity. If the pressure is then renewed, a pattern of bright, irregular lines appears that resembles a system of blood vessels. When the pressure is again released, a fine filigree image appears and remains for some time. The checkerboard design is probably some manifestation of the orderliness of the neural network of the retina; it shifts in the visual field as the gaze is shifted. The filigree, on the other hand, may be generated farther along the visual pathway, since it remains stationary regardless of where one looks. However, there is a degree of individual sensitivity; some people can make phosphenes occur regularly with little provocation and after-images which last a long time, others cannot (Oster 1970:83-4; Brindley 1963).<br />
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		<title>By: edc</title>
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		<dc:creator>edc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I push on my eyeballs till I see black and white chess boards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I push on my eyeballs till I see black and white chess boards.</p>
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		<title>By: edc</title>
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		<dc:creator>edc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um..
staying up late or not sleeping for a day or two is basically free pot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um..<br />
staying up late or not sleeping for a day or two is basically free pot.</p>
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		<title>By: TwoDragons</title>
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		<dc:creator>TwoDragons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ganzfield Procedure: the REAL Gateway Drug! ;-)

--TwoDragons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ganzfield Procedure: the REAL Gateway Drug! <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>--TwoDragons</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ganzfield Procedure? First of all, why would I tape ping-pong ball halves to my face? Couldn&#039;t I just close my eyes for the same effect? As for the radio tuned to static... that&#039;s just white noise, like a fan or something. I sometimes turn on a source of white noise like that to help me sleep. The &quot;Ganzfield Procedure&quot; doesn&#039;t make you hallucinate; it just puts you to sleep, and then you dream!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ganzfield Procedure? First of all, why would I tape ping-pong ball halves to my face? Couldn't I just close my eyes for the same effect? As for the radio tuned to static... that's just white noise, like a fan or something. I sometimes turn on a source of white noise like that to help me sleep. The "Ganzfield Procedure" doesn't make you hallucinate; it just puts you to sleep, and then you dream!</p>
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		<title>By: felipe Venancio</title>
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		<dc:creator>felipe Venancio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started with these, now I am addicted to chair spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started with these, now I am addicted to chair spin.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like an awful lot of trouble to remove the top part of your skull for those middle ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like an awful lot of trouble to remove the top part of your skull for those middle ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Elenia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corinne, maybe you&#039;re thinking of the Brainwave Generator?

Instead of any of these, you could use that to enter a lucid dream and be a god for a night! You could do whatever you want!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corinne, maybe you're thinking of the Brainwave Generator?</p>
<p>Instead of any of these, you could use that to enter a lucid dream and be a god for a night! You could do whatever you want!</p>
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		<title>By: Guybrush Threepwood</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/mess-with-your-mind-without-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1376381</link>
		<dc:creator>Guybrush Threepwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it have to be a rubber arm? I have one real arm on the fridge (I told the mailman I didn&#039;t want to be disturbed), wonder if it will work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it have to be a rubber arm? I have one real arm on the fridge (I told the mailman I didn't want to be disturbed), wonder if it will work.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/mess-with-your-mind-without-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1375760</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, me too.  the arm in my closet is kind of losing that &quot;natural&quot; look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, me too.  the arm in my closet is kind of losing that "natural" look.</p>
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		<title>By: sw</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/mess-with-your-mind-without-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1375642</link>
		<dc:creator>sw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah, i&#039;ll stick with drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah, i'll stick with drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Corinne</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2009/01/12/mess-with-your-mind-without-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1375631</link>
		<dc:creator>Corinne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also I-doser, a program available online, and I do believe there&#039;s a free version. It supposedly uses white noise to change the frequency of brainwaves. In my experience, it works okay, but won&#039;t stand up to your expectations if you&#039;re looking for something as intense as most drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's also I-doser, a program available online, and I do believe there's a free version. It supposedly uses white noise to change the frequency of brainwaves. In my experience, it works okay, but won't stand up to your expectations if you're looking for something as intense as most drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: DylanDoom</title>
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		<dc:creator>DylanDoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ping Pong Static Party!
Can you picture it?
Everyone lying on the floor,
with ping pongs taped to their eyes,
listening to static radio.

Its like a scene from the Twilight Zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ping Pong Static Party!<br />
Can you picture it?<br />
Everyone lying on the floor,<br />
with ping pongs taped to their eyes,<br />
listening to static radio.</p>
<p>Its like a scene from the Twilight Zone.</p>
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		<title>By: Ominous Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ominous Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone ever tried any of this?</description>
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