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		<title>By: Landcruiser.CA</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.I.D, those points were well put!</description>
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		<title>By: D.I.D.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan 22322 is the man. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Dan22322</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many things wrong with this I don&#039;t even know where to start...

First off, the obvious mistake is that the U.S. is NOT going to break up... what sort of evidence is there for that? But let&#039;s humor Igor, and follow his line if thought with a series of less and less likely scenarios...

IF the United States divided, it would NOT divide into 6 separate countries, it would divide into 2. The racist/backward south, aka &quot;Texas Republic,&quot; and part of the south of &quot;Central North American Republic.&quot; The rest of the states could feasibly join with Canada, but more likely with Canada under U.S. influence. 

Now, IF the United States did divide up into 6 regions, which is already extremely unlikely... Mexico and Canada will NOT take over two of them. Russia taking over Alaska is the most likely, followed with China trying to take over the Western U.S. But even then, the other 4 or 5 &quot;states&quot; would not allow it, because even if they aren&#039;t joined as an official nation, they still have vested interest in keeping China off of the mainland. 

Ugh I could keep going on but I don&#039;t know why I&#039;m wasting my time with such a bogus theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many things wrong with this I don't even know where to start...</p>
<p>First off, the obvious mistake is that the U.S. is NOT going to break up... what sort of evidence is there for that? But let's humor Igor, and follow his line if thought with a series of less and less likely scenarios...</p>
<p>IF the United States divided, it would NOT divide into 6 separate countries, it would divide into 2. The racist/backward south, aka "Texas Republic," and part of the south of "Central North American Republic." The rest of the states could feasibly join with Canada, but more likely with Canada under U.S. influence. </p>
<p>Now, IF the United States did divide up into 6 regions, which is already extremely unlikely... Mexico and Canada will NOT take over two of them. Russia taking over Alaska is the most likely, followed with China trying to take over the Western U.S. But even then, the other 4 or 5 "states" would not allow it, because even if they aren't joined as an official nation, they still have vested interest in keeping China off of the mainland. </p>
<p>Ugh I could keep going on but I don't know why I'm wasting my time with such a bogus theory.</p>
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		<title>By: spreadout</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is NO country on the face of the earth that will

be able to stand when the treasousness representitives

are within.............................................</description>
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		<title>By: J W MAJORS</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for decent states to secede and form a new Nation under Jesus Christ-the real God. Let the rest degenerate and abort themselves out of existence. What else are they good for?</description>
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		<title>By: Matt3046</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans don&#039;t know this has already happened, six years ago. The media is in on the whole conspiracy.</description>
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		<title>By: D.I.D.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Prof must have a degree in Ultra Nationalism and a Ph. D in Propoganda. Regardless of what happens to America in terms of economic and military misadventures, political disollution of the USA is a terrorist&#039;s wet dream. Given the hype this has created, I offer one simple question:

- Why are you Americans so worried? Have you become so ignorant not only of others, but of yourselves as well? Have you forgotten your history? :-p

Fortunately, I know your history, and what it entails.

So, I propose my counterargument to why this particular &#039;death of the USA&#039; scheme cannot and will not happen. 

1) America&#039;s would be Conquerers are either unwilling or unable to subjugate the breakaway states. Consider the following:

- Although Alaska was once part of the Russian Empire, this colonial heritage has long been lost as Americans colonized the territory. To propose that Alaska, a state nearly entirely populated by English-speaking US citizens, will catipulate to the country that was regarded in the past (and today, to an extent) as the avowed enemy of capitalism and freedom by most Americans, is laughable. Alaska would most likely go it alone or join Canada for trade and political conveiniences. (ie: Ottawa is a closer federal capital than Moscow or even Washington, and Canadian cities and ports are more easily accessable than other American or Russian cities)  

- Even if an &#039;Atlantic America&#039; joins the EU, it is a moot point. The EU is, as of right now still an association of independent states, not a state itself. Atlantic America, most likely headquartered at Washington, D.C, would still be independent in this relationship.
 
- The very idea of a Communist state taking over a land as obbsessively decadent and self-centred as the Hollywoodic California has no fans in either L.A. or Beijing. Also, some of the more eastern states would never enter this relationship.

- Texas and it&#039;s &quot;New Confederacy&quot; would rather go it alone than join Mexico. Why should Texas, a state with great wealth and political stability, willingly bind itself to the country it  
forcably seperated itself from before, and the country that is so impoverished and anarchy ridden that the central government would be unable to protect Texas&#039; interests? Plus, Texans are doing their best to keep Mexicans out allready - not a rosy thought for political union.

- The Midwest has a population greater than that of Canada, and Canada is not an imperialistic power. To ask my countrymen to accept thirty five million Americans is something that is not polite conversation in Canada, as this union would spell political suicide. Quebec, alarmed by the quick reduction of it&#039;s influence in Ottawa, and of the  Ènglish American `Borg` (ie: `Resistance is futile, Frenchy - you shall be assimilated!) taking up shop, would promptly secede. The Atlantic provinces might follow suit. When the dust settles, we would have a Canada that is mostly inhabited by Americans, who would set up a new American republic in place of our Canadian constitution, and we would rapidly become the new United States.

2) Americans are a united people.

To compare America`s proposed break-up to the dissolution of the USSR is a denial of history. The USSR was a highly centralized state, with most political and economic power held by one of it`s sixteen republics. (Russia) The fifteen other, much smaller Soviet Republics were dragged into the union and the domination of Russia against their nationalist desires. The United States, on the other hand, is a decentralized federation where most of the states are on equal footing. There are of course, the large states and the small states, such as California, New York, and Texas versus Hawaii, Rhode Island, and Vermont; but there is no outright abusive of power in the USA by the large states than there was in the USSR. The US Senate, as a matter of fact, was created to stop the tyranny of the majority.

Plus, the USA is a nation of immigrants - everyone who lives in America today is desended from someone who came to the country hundreds - or in the case of the American Indians - thousands of years ago. Many are recent immigrants. Because of this diversity, and the seemingly endless flow of American nationalism, the idea of America dividing on ethnic lines has no merit. The `ìllegal aliens` are in the USA because they love the country, not because they want to conquer peices of it. 

It is understandable why the Russian thinks the way he does. Russia`s historic troubles with the Chechens, Ukrainians, and Kazaks makes the idea of ethnic pluralty without violence a confusing notion for Russians, while it is an undeniable reality in the United States.  

3) Global Pecking Order

To suggest that America&#039;s neighbors and rivals will carve up the defunct USA implies parity of strength and intent between the conquerers. Consider this:

- Mexico is a weak central state, with very little power to exert authority beyond it&#039;s borders.
- Canadians neither want nor are capable of taking the American Midwest.
- the European Union is not a nation-state.
- China does have a huge and powerful army (+2,500,000 soldiers, plus tanks, artillery, advanced aircraft, and a sophisticated command structure with well trained generals)
but only a modest navy. Good luck trying to get to California.

4) The Way Out

Although I don`t believe that America will be partitioned and conquered, I do believe that America is in for some hard times. Eventually the 50 trillion $ debt will catch up with them, and then - CRASH! The end of American global hegemony. The United States will continue to exist, but will be so debt ridden that no nation will lend to it. Faced with this, I predict that the USA will be forced to sell all of it`s overseas military establishments to the countries they occupy, suspend military R&amp;D indefinately, scrap it`s costly nuclear arsenal, decommision much of it`s navy, scrap NASA, end all of it`s remaining social services, and reduce it`s homeland army to a smaller, cheaper, more efficient fighting force. (less than 300,000 soldiers)
In other words, an isolationist America will reammerge - Uncle Sam sans the big stick.
After this painful transistion, US debt should contract enough to allow some form of economic reconstruction to prevent a similar fiasco from ever happening again. During this time I also recommend that America do some soul-searching - rediscover it`s old hatred of imperialism and it`s former love of liberty for all.

5) Finally...

I&#039;d like to get rid of some of the stupid misconceptions I have read in other comments.

- Russians are not Communist anymore. The Soveit Union ended eighteen years ago.

- Texans are not hillbillies. I met a Texan who was visitting Canada once, and he was a great guy with a funny accent.

- Gog and Magog are references to two great alliances of nations, not nations themselves.

- Canadian health care does not fall from the sky. We pay through the nose for it.

- Americans aren&#039;t cowards or wimps. The economic crisis was largely caused by rich Americans taking crazy gambles in the financial industry. The American nation as a whole is one of risk-takers. Also explains the over-abundance of firearms.

- Mexican immigrants aren&#039;t intentionally destabilizing the USA. They come for work conditions and livelihoods they could not possibly have enjoyed in rural Mexico.

- Canada does have an army; a good efficient army of about 100,000 total persons. But where the US army is akin to a massive, cumbersome broadsword that is difficult to manage and more difficult to swing, Canada&#039;s army is more like a small, sharp dagger that is easy to manage and quick to deploy. The American army is designed for long, massive offensive wars, while Canada&#039;s army is designed for internal security and international peace keeping. Whether one style is better than another is debatable

- There is absolutely no Scriptuaral reference to the United States, except in the Mormon faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Prof must have a degree in Ultra Nationalism and a Ph. D in Propoganda. Regardless of what happens to America in terms of economic and military misadventures, political disollution of the USA is a terrorist's wet dream. Given the hype this has created, I offer one simple question:</p>
<p>- Why are you Americans so worried? Have you become so ignorant not only of others, but of yourselves as well? Have you forgotten your history? :-p</p>
<p>Fortunately, I know your history, and what it entails.</p>
<p>So, I propose my counterargument to why this particular 'death of the USA' scheme cannot and will not happen. </p>
<p>1) America's would be Conquerers are either unwilling or unable to subjugate the breakaway states. Consider the following:</p>
<p>- Although Alaska was once part of the Russian Empire, this colonial heritage has long been lost as Americans colonized the territory. To propose that Alaska, a state nearly entirely populated by English-speaking US citizens, will catipulate to the country that was regarded in the past (and today, to an extent) as the avowed enemy of capitalism and freedom by most Americans, is laughable. Alaska would most likely go it alone or join Canada for trade and political conveiniences. (ie: Ottawa is a closer federal capital than Moscow or even Washington, and Canadian cities and ports are more easily accessable than other American or Russian cities)  </p>
<p>- Even if an 'Atlantic America' joins the EU, it is a moot point. The EU is, as of right now still an association of independent states, not a state itself. Atlantic America, most likely headquartered at Washington, D.C, would still be independent in this relationship.</p>
<p>- The very idea of a Communist state taking over a land as obbsessively decadent and self-centred as the Hollywoodic California has no fans in either L.A. or Beijing. Also, some of the more eastern states would never enter this relationship.</p>
<p>- Texas and it's "New Confederacy" would rather go it alone than join Mexico. Why should Texas, a state with great wealth and political stability, willingly bind itself to the country it<br />
forcably seperated itself from before, and the country that is so impoverished and anarchy ridden that the central government would be unable to protect Texas' interests? Plus, Texans are doing their best to keep Mexicans out allready - not a rosy thought for political union.</p>
<p>- The Midwest has a population greater than that of Canada, and Canada is not an imperialistic power. To ask my countrymen to accept thirty five million Americans is something that is not polite conversation in Canada, as this union would spell political suicide. Quebec, alarmed by the quick reduction of it's influence in Ottawa, and of the  Ènglish American `Borg` (ie: `Resistance is futile, Frenchy - you shall be assimilated!) taking up shop, would promptly secede. The Atlantic provinces might follow suit. When the dust settles, we would have a Canada that is mostly inhabited by Americans, who would set up a new American republic in place of our Canadian constitution, and we would rapidly become the new United States.</p>
<p>2) Americans are a united people.</p>
<p>To compare America`s proposed break-up to the dissolution of the USSR is a denial of history. The USSR was a highly centralized state, with most political and economic power held by one of it`s sixteen republics. (Russia) The fifteen other, much smaller Soviet Republics were dragged into the union and the domination of Russia against their nationalist desires. The United States, on the other hand, is a decentralized federation where most of the states are on equal footing. There are of course, the large states and the small states, such as California, New York, and Texas versus Hawaii, Rhode Island, and Vermont; but there is no outright abusive of power in the USA by the large states than there was in the USSR. The US Senate, as a matter of fact, was created to stop the tyranny of the majority.</p>
<p>Plus, the USA is a nation of immigrants - everyone who lives in America today is desended from someone who came to the country hundreds - or in the case of the American Indians - thousands of years ago. Many are recent immigrants. Because of this diversity, and the seemingly endless flow of American nationalism, the idea of America dividing on ethnic lines has no merit. The `ìllegal aliens` are in the USA because they love the country, not because they want to conquer peices of it. </p>
<p>It is understandable why the Russian thinks the way he does. Russia`s historic troubles with the Chechens, Ukrainians, and Kazaks makes the idea of ethnic pluralty without violence a confusing notion for Russians, while it is an undeniable reality in the United States.  </p>
<p>3) Global Pecking Order</p>
<p>To suggest that America's neighbors and rivals will carve up the defunct USA implies parity of strength and intent between the conquerers. Consider this:</p>
<p>- Mexico is a weak central state, with very little power to exert authority beyond it's borders.<br />
- Canadians neither want nor are capable of taking the American Midwest.<br />
- the European Union is not a nation-state.<br />
- China does have a huge and powerful army (+2,500,000 soldiers, plus tanks, artillery, advanced aircraft, and a sophisticated command structure with well trained generals)<br />
but only a modest navy. Good luck trying to get to California.</p>
<p>4) The Way Out</p>
<p>Although I don`t believe that America will be partitioned and conquered, I do believe that America is in for some hard times. Eventually the 50 trillion $ debt will catch up with them, and then - CRASH! The end of American global hegemony. The United States will continue to exist, but will be so debt ridden that no nation will lend to it. Faced with this, I predict that the USA will be forced to sell all of it`s overseas military establishments to the countries they occupy, suspend military R&amp;D indefinately, scrap it`s costly nuclear arsenal, decommision much of it`s navy, scrap NASA, end all of it`s remaining social services, and reduce it`s homeland army to a smaller, cheaper, more efficient fighting force. (less than 300,000 soldiers)<br />
In other words, an isolationist America will reammerge - Uncle Sam sans the big stick.<br />
After this painful transistion, US debt should contract enough to allow some form of economic reconstruction to prevent a similar fiasco from ever happening again. During this time I also recommend that America do some soul-searching - rediscover it`s old hatred of imperialism and it`s former love of liberty for all.</p>
<p>5) Finally...</p>
<p>I'd like to get rid of some of the stupid misconceptions I have read in other comments.</p>
<p>- Russians are not Communist anymore. The Soveit Union ended eighteen years ago.</p>
<p>- Texans are not hillbillies. I met a Texan who was visitting Canada once, and he was a great guy with a funny accent.</p>
<p>- Gog and Magog are references to two great alliances of nations, not nations themselves.</p>
<p>- Canadian health care does not fall from the sky. We pay through the nose for it.</p>
<p>- Americans aren't cowards or wimps. The economic crisis was largely caused by rich Americans taking crazy gambles in the financial industry. The American nation as a whole is one of risk-takers. Also explains the over-abundance of firearms.</p>
<p>- Mexican immigrants aren't intentionally destabilizing the USA. They come for work conditions and livelihoods they could not possibly have enjoyed in rural Mexico.</p>
<p>- Canada does have an army; a good efficient army of about 100,000 total persons. But where the US army is akin to a massive, cumbersome broadsword that is difficult to manage and more difficult to swing, Canada's army is more like a small, sharp dagger that is easy to manage and quick to deploy. The American army is designed for long, massive offensive wars, while Canada's army is designed for internal security and international peace keeping. Whether one style is better than another is debatable</p>
<p>- There is absolutely no Scriptuaral reference to the United States, except in the Mormon faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Pantoum</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of people that seem to be missing the point. No one is saying that there would be some sort of Hollywood style violent takeover. These are just hypothetical ideas of how other countries might influence various regions if the central government of the United States went belly up. 

Another thing, I don&#039;t know why so many people here think that it is such an impossibility. Many of the states are bankrupt. Most industry is gone. Our &quot;multinational corporations&quot; show no allegiance to our laws and are wrought with corruption. We are raising an entire generation of uneducated, unskilled individuals. 

America has been losing it influence from since the 70&#039;s, we have dismantled many of our social safety nets and embraced greed and cruelty as virtues. To many around the world we have become the obese invalid that is unable to take care of himself. 

Unless we can change course and start to take responsibility on the local level, we are not going to be capable of standing up to foreign influence. 

Standing up against corporate fascists is a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of people that seem to be missing the point. No one is saying that there would be some sort of Hollywood style violent takeover. These are just hypothetical ideas of how other countries might influence various regions if the central government of the United States went belly up. </p>
<p>Another thing, I don't know why so many people here think that it is such an impossibility. Many of the states are bankrupt. Most industry is gone. Our "multinational corporations" show no allegiance to our laws and are wrought with corruption. We are raising an entire generation of uneducated, unskilled individuals. </p>
<p>America has been losing it influence from since the 70's, we have dismantled many of our social safety nets and embraced greed and cruelty as virtues. To many around the world we have become the obese invalid that is unable to take care of himself. </p>
<p>Unless we can change course and start to take responsibility on the local level, we are not going to be capable of standing up to foreign influence. </p>
<p>Standing up against corporate fascists is a start.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can take a map of the U.S. regions and make up shit too, I guess we have a lot in common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can take a map of the U.S. regions and make up shit too, I guess we have a lot in common.</p>
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		<title>By: MIke1975</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIke1975</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The posts of Ross, Leah Allen and Gregory Davis resonate with me, though I don’t agree totally with them. Ross, you’re probably not American, which is okay. And your rhetoric about American imperialism is correct, which correlates to Leah’s post about Pax Americana (or the lack thereof), or the New Rome.  Obama will NOT fix this, even though the ideal of a more regimented international community sounds simply great. I believe your faith is misplaced, even if Obama puts a band-aid on this gaping wound. 

However, where Ross is correct is on the influence of China and their industrial might, in addition to the assets they have in America. It’s an unfortunate reality, even if China is suffering right along side the rest of the world financially. They have a lot of our gold as collateral, and I’m guessing they might want their assets back (if we’re talking about conventional wars and/or financial takeovers). The advantage of the U.S., of course, is that we can simply refuse to honor our financial obligations if it means ruining our nation. China has stopped buying our debts, but we are still indebted to them. Also, China is the perfect template, the textbook government, for the United Nations. That is how they want the rest of the world to operate.   

Leah Allen gives a good estimate of 20 years in regard to a return to old agrarian ways and the demise of our technological state. Installing socialism in the U.S. (if it takes root) will take about five years. That will be our swan song, but it would take some time for the country to collapse.  

And while Gregory Davis’ prediction is waaaay out there, his statements still ought to remind us of two things: our country operates on prosperity (i.e, a  strong economy). No prosperity means no funding, and no funding means no means to keep a country running at its optimum level.  When or if it tanks to perilous levels, keep an eye on your standing federal armies, because their deployment to police the People is the next step to keeping the nation stabilized if there’s no food, running water or basic living amenities.
I’m outta here, try the buffet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The posts of Ross, Leah Allen and Gregory Davis resonate with me, though I don’t agree totally with them. Ross, you’re probably not American, which is okay. And your rhetoric about American imperialism is correct, which correlates to Leah’s post about Pax Americana (or the lack thereof), or the New Rome.  Obama will NOT fix this, even though the ideal of a more regimented international community sounds simply great. I believe your faith is misplaced, even if Obama puts a band-aid on this gaping wound. </p>
<p>However, where Ross is correct is on the influence of China and their industrial might, in addition to the assets they have in America. It’s an unfortunate reality, even if China is suffering right along side the rest of the world financially. They have a lot of our gold as collateral, and I’m guessing they might want their assets back (if we’re talking about conventional wars and/or financial takeovers). The advantage of the U.S., of course, is that we can simply refuse to honor our financial obligations if it means ruining our nation. China has stopped buying our debts, but we are still indebted to them. Also, China is the perfect template, the textbook government, for the United Nations. That is how they want the rest of the world to operate.   </p>
<p>Leah Allen gives a good estimate of 20 years in regard to a return to old agrarian ways and the demise of our technological state. Installing socialism in the U.S. (if it takes root) will take about five years. That will be our swan song, but it would take some time for the country to collapse.  </p>
<p>And while Gregory Davis’ prediction is waaaay out there, his statements still ought to remind us of two things: our country operates on prosperity (i.e, a  strong economy). No prosperity means no funding, and no funding means no means to keep a country running at its optimum level.  When or if it tanks to perilous levels, keep an eye on your standing federal armies, because their deployment to police the People is the next step to keeping the nation stabilized if there’s no food, running water or basic living amenities.<br />
I’m outta here, try the buffet.</p>
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		<title>By: David George</title>
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		<dc:creator>David George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s fix the problem, not be part of it.  Everyone wants to even think this would happen.  We need to step up to the plate a take care of business, with out the bullsh*t.  

There was the movie &quot;war of the worlds&quot;too.</description>
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<p>There was the movie "war of the worlds"too.</p>
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		<title>By: woogy666</title>
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		<dc:creator>woogy666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not underestimate the South. We aint going down without a fight!!!</description>
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		<title>By: gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russia and China with the other eight countries will subdue America and place its population under their control.Why? Because of evil and Gods judgements upon it. The United States deserves this outcome for its injustices done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia and China with the other eight countries will subdue America and place its population under their control.Why? Because of evil and Gods judgements upon it. The United States deserves this outcome for its injustices done.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1653331</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Russian professer is a bit off.Things I said in the past to others months/years before have been super accurate.When God truely reveals it is right on.This is what will happen in sequence and time.In April 2006 I said that the economy/financial markets would begin to collaspe.It did begin the last week of August2008.The stock market would bottom in March 2009.It did.In May 2009 next month trouble in the bond markets and insurance companies yet to come.End of July/beginning of August 2009- the stock market drops to the bottom(not defined)August 6 at noon (what time zone I do not know) the banks close and stay that way for a few weeks.Aug.7-9 rioting and looting over the weekend.August 10 Federalized troops sent to restore order then later UN troops.The  Citizens resist and Russian troops cause a civil war inside the central areas of the USA.6.3 million dead out of 7+million but by the prayers of Gods people the troops die the early morning of October 14 never to awake. Much more which leads to the defeat of the USA on May 31 2010 by 10 nations under 7 governments the two main ones being Russia in the east and China in the western USA. 107.2 million American citizens will still be alive at this time.Before this invasion a nuclear war happened destroying 279 USA cities?metro areas.All 12 ohio class submarines hit back Russia and China really hard with 1744 nuclear warheads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russian professer is a bit off.Things I said in the past to others months/years before have been super accurate.When God truely reveals it is right on.This is what will happen in sequence and time.In April 2006 I said that the economy/financial markets would begin to collaspe.It did begin the last week of August2008.The stock market would bottom in March 2009.It did.In May 2009 next month trouble in the bond markets and insurance companies yet to come.End of July/beginning of August 2009- the stock market drops to the bottom(not defined)August 6 at noon (what time zone I do not know) the banks close and stay that way for a few weeks.Aug.7-9 rioting and looting over the weekend.August 10 Federalized troops sent to restore order then later UN troops.The  Citizens resist and Russian troops cause a civil war inside the central areas of the USA.6.3 million dead out of 7+million but by the prayers of Gods people the troops die the early morning of October 14 never to awake. Much more which leads to the defeat of the USA on May 31 2010 by 10 nations under 7 governments the two main ones being Russia in the east and China in the western USA. 107.2 million American citizens will still be alive at this time.Before this invasion a nuclear war happened destroying 279 USA cities?metro areas.All 12 ohio class submarines hit back Russia and China really hard with 1744 nuclear warheads.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Eagar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Eagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought.  I know that things will probably get a lot worse, and it does look as though we are headed for a serious economic disaster worldwide, and especially here in the US.  But, I hope I speak for most Americans when I say that I doubt we will easily or not easily give up who and what we are. Yes, we are deserving of a swift kick for our poor money management and our glutenous habits, but deep down inside, most of us still have the blood and sweat of our forefathers, not to mention the responsibility to our posterity to stand up for, and I hope we wouldn&#039;t give it up for anything short of our lives, which would leave very little for the rest of the world to pick up.  Okay, we are facing a huge mess right now, but we will make it through this and whatever else the world throws at us...United and Free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought.  I know that things will probably get a lot worse, and it does look as though we are headed for a serious economic disaster worldwide, and especially here in the US.  But, I hope I speak for most Americans when I say that I doubt we will easily or not easily give up who and what we are. Yes, we are deserving of a swift kick for our poor money management and our glutenous habits, but deep down inside, most of us still have the blood and sweat of our forefathers, not to mention the responsibility to our posterity to stand up for, and I hope we wouldn't give it up for anything short of our lives, which would leave very little for the rest of the world to pick up.  Okay, we are facing a huge mess right now, but we will make it through this and whatever else the world throws at us...United and Free.</p>
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		<title>By: chuk</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1545226</link>
		<dc:creator>chuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that Russian academic, Igor Panarin,  has played too much of the PC game &quot;Shattered Union&quot;. He needs to look at his own countries shape, and not worry about the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that Russian academic, Igor Panarin,  has played too much of the PC game "Shattered Union". He needs to look at his own countries shape, and not worry about the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Alorik</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1519394</link>
		<dc:creator>Alorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please.......I would love to see the likes of China &amp; Russia try to occupy the US. 

Our civilian, armed citizens are better soldiers and better marksman than any army from the east.  

 We have over 200mil private weapons!
Not to mention Devine Providence and the unstoppable American spirit on our side. At the end of the day,we would burn piles of dead chinks and ruskies and dance around the flames. 

Bring it on........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please.......I would love to see the likes of China &amp; Russia try to occupy the US. </p>
<p>Our civilian, armed citizens are better soldiers and better marksman than any army from the east.  </p>
<p> We have over 200mil private weapons!<br />
Not to mention Devine Providence and the unstoppable American spirit on our side. At the end of the day,we would burn piles of dead chinks and ruskies and dance around the flames. </p>
<p>Bring it on........</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt, there will be civil war. Though it is less likely to be among the states. This war will resemble the Revolutionary War more than the US Civil War of the mid 1800&#039;s. The federal government of the United States serves corporate interests. The individual state governments are distancing themselves from their federal counterpart as I speak. Right now, at the time of my writing 25 States have passed state resolutions reaffirming their soveriegnty, informing the criminal federal government that the federal laws do not supercede the laws of the state nor the rights of the citizen. War is coming, and coming soon. It will be the criminals who have inserted themselves into public office that will be driven from this land. It will be the foreign agents of Israel and other nations who have usurped our government that will pay with their blood. In the end the rule of law will be returned to the land and there may even be some geopolitical changes, but we, as Americans, will not go quitely into the night. We will never give up our soveriegnty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt, there will be civil war. Though it is less likely to be among the states. This war will resemble the Revolutionary War more than the US Civil War of the mid 1800's. The federal government of the United States serves corporate interests. The individual state governments are distancing themselves from their federal counterpart as I speak. Right now, at the time of my writing 25 States have passed state resolutions reaffirming their soveriegnty, informing the criminal federal government that the federal laws do not supercede the laws of the state nor the rights of the citizen. War is coming, and coming soon. It will be the criminals who have inserted themselves into public office that will be driven from this land. It will be the foreign agents of Israel and other nations who have usurped our government that will pay with their blood. In the end the rule of law will be returned to the land and there may even be some geopolitical changes, but we, as Americans, will not go quitely into the night. We will never give up our soveriegnty.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 06:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to be a part of Maine, My ex wife lives there..</description>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1455233</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 06:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would america have a civil war? What would we fight about? If it gets so bad there is no food or money I can see problems but a Civil War? The reason we are not attacked is there is nothing to attack here anyway! Bush Broke the World...We are ALL in trouble..California is done they cant take care of themselves...SOmething has to break but I dont see this reds idea of 6 parts working. Texas and Mexico no way man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would america have a civil war? What would we fight about? If it gets so bad there is no food or money I can see problems but a Civil War? The reason we are not attacked is there is nothing to attack here anyway! Bush Broke the World...We are ALL in trouble..California is done they cant take care of themselves...SOmething has to break but I dont see this reds idea of 6 parts working. Texas and Mexico no way man.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1393833</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US will fail, it is inevitable.  In the history of the world not nation as large as this one, with land that is basically all livable (the contiguous 48 at least) has ever existed for so long under any type of government control with the kinds of freedom we enjoy. Rome held vast amounts of land for a long time but if you study history you will see that Rome let most cities run themselves as long as they continued to pay tribute.  No nation that spent so much time supporting people who contributed nothing to growing the wealth of the nation (i.e. our welfare state) has ever lasted long. 
What you all should be doing is figuring out how you can get a piece of land where you can grow your own food and raise meat to provide protein, and have enough water. If you are lucky, you will have enough space to set up solar panel or windmills so you can have a little electricity. 
The only place that this is possible is the Midwest.  States like Kansas, Nevada and Mississippi, the Great Plains, will be fine because they can support small, separate communities.  We won’t be worrying about green pieces of paper to trade back and forth because the only good they will be is to help start your cooking fire.
I predict we have 20 years at the most before we will be worrying about putting enough food away for the winter and not what the next best game system will be and if our TV will have a high enough resolution.
We won’t belong to any country, maybe a loose community with a hired sheriff, but no government we can just stop paying if we don’t like what they are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US will fail, it is inevitable.  In the history of the world not nation as large as this one, with land that is basically all livable (the contiguous 48 at least) has ever existed for so long under any type of government control with the kinds of freedom we enjoy. Rome held vast amounts of land for a long time but if you study history you will see that Rome let most cities run themselves as long as they continued to pay tribute.  No nation that spent so much time supporting people who contributed nothing to growing the wealth of the nation (i.e. our welfare state) has ever lasted long.<br />
What you all should be doing is figuring out how you can get a piece of land where you can grow your own food and raise meat to provide protein, and have enough water. If you are lucky, you will have enough space to set up solar panel or windmills so you can have a little electricity.<br />
The only place that this is possible is the Midwest.  States like Kansas, Nevada and Mississippi, the Great Plains, will be fine because they can support small, separate communities.  We won’t be worrying about green pieces of paper to trade back and forth because the only good they will be is to help start your cooking fire.<br />
I predict we have 20 years at the most before we will be worrying about putting enough food away for the winter and not what the next best game system will be and if our TV will have a high enough resolution.<br />
We won’t belong to any country, maybe a loose community with a hired sheriff, but no government we can just stop paying if we don’t like what they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Caudillo Americano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caudillo Americano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most postings here are basicly spot on. The US or portions of it cannot be taken by other entities. What they dont address is why.
The why is no country on earth has the Navy to enforce such takeovers. China is striving to improvre theirs but it takes ten years to grow a carrier based fighter pilot. Russia&#039;s is one big pile of rust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most postings here are basicly spot on. The US or portions of it cannot be taken by other entities. What they dont address is why.<br />
The why is no country on earth has the Navy to enforce such takeovers. China is striving to improvre theirs but it takes ten years to grow a carrier based fighter pilot. Russia's is one big pile of rust.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Rand</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1368711</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...This could happen.

If it does I&#039;m going to probably ponder killing myself because I will be Canadian! lol...SERIOUSLY? this map is all wrong. Cali and Texas would be independent. The atlantic would probably go to the EU.

Hawaii would be and independent state.

Alaska would be taken by Russia the Far north would be under Canadian influence and hopefully Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois make a State in combination...I really don&#039;t want to be Canadian, lol.

L.R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay...This could happen.</p>
<p>If it does I'm going to probably ponder killing myself because I will be Canadian! lol...SERIOUSLY? this map is all wrong. Cali and Texas would be independent. The atlantic would probably go to the EU.</p>
<p>Hawaii would be and independent state.</p>
<p>Alaska would be taken by Russia the Far north would be under Canadian influence and hopefully Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois make a State in combination...I really don't want to be Canadian, lol.</p>
<p>L.R.</p>
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		<title>By: Okie</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1363657</link>
		<dc:creator>Okie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that is not being taken into account is that 90,000,000  of the citizens of the United States of America possess 300,000,000 firearms and are among the most hard headed and xenophobic people on earth.What&#039;s more is the majority of those armed Americans live in those Southern States assigned to Mexico and with the racial tensions over illegal immigration a breakdown in social order would probably result in continuous acts of terror and murder against selected ethnic groups both through racism and the promotion of a philosophy of pinning their failure on a convenient scapegoat rather than just taking their lumps and setting out to rebuild.

Any nation that exerted it&#039;s influence without invitation would be met with the long known consequence of an invasion of the mainland United States

&quot;You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass&quot; -Admiral Itsoroku Yamamoto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that is not being taken into account is that 90,000,000  of the citizens of the United States of America possess 300,000,000 firearms and are among the most hard headed and xenophobic people on earth.What's more is the majority of those armed Americans live in those Southern States assigned to Mexico and with the racial tensions over illegal immigration a breakdown in social order would probably result in continuous acts of terror and murder against selected ethnic groups both through racism and the promotion of a philosophy of pinning their failure on a convenient scapegoat rather than just taking their lumps and setting out to rebuild.</p>
<p>Any nation that exerted it's influence without invitation would be met with the long known consequence of an invasion of the mainland United States</p>
<p>"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" -Admiral Itsoroku Yamamoto</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and all those idiots talking about Sarah Palin. She never said it.... Tina Fey said it!! 


   Typical, moronic obama voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...and all those idiots talking about Sarah Palin. She never said it.... Tina Fey said it!! </p>
<p>   Typical, moronic obama voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1342104</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US may collapse.... but to come under some unwanted foreign-rule? We have the most armed citizenry on the planet. It will not be easy. Maybe not like Red-Dawn, but similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US may collapse.... but to come under some unwanted foreign-rule? We have the most armed citizenry on the planet. It will not be easy. Maybe not like Red-Dawn, but similar.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1341566</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s sick to see how everyone is waiting for the demise of the US, all are extremely ignorant of America&#039;s contribution and significance to the world in every aspect. The Russians are the last to talk about the degradation of values, the economic, societal and cultural collapse and country separation. Russia has been among the most unstable of countries in the last century while America has held itself together successfully through thick and thin and has proven to be one of the most economically and politically stable and successful countries in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it's sick to see how everyone is waiting for the demise of the US, all are extremely ignorant of America's contribution and significance to the world in every aspect. The Russians are the last to talk about the degradation of values, the economic, societal and cultural collapse and country separation. Russia has been among the most unstable of countries in the last century while America has held itself together successfully through thick and thin and has proven to be one of the most economically and politically stable and successful countries in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to all the people defending what sarah palin said, the reason its funny is because its completely irrelevant. it doesnt matter if she said she could see it from her house or from an island, being able to see russia does not give you experience in foreign policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to all the people defending what sarah palin said, the reason its funny is because its completely irrelevant. it doesnt matter if she said she could see it from her house or from an island, being able to see russia does not give you experience in foreign policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1332389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This professor has obviously never been to Idaho.  We are a fiercely sovereign state, even against our federal government.  Lest we forget it was our representatives who fought against the USA PATRIOT act since it infringed on states&#039; rights.  We are the leading proponent of gun ownership rights and commerce rights in the union.  Idaho Republicans (&quot;Lincoln Republicans&quot;, mind you, not this neocon mess) oppose membership in the UN and other sovereignty-robbing entities.  

If there is a collapse of the USA, which is kind of a silly concept, this map will never be a reality.  Texas will never become part of Mexico - that&#039;s the most ridiculous thing I&#039;ve ever heard.  Mexico is in no position, politically, militarily, or economically, to be annexing anything.  Alaska may be annexed by Canada, as may the American Midwest and Northeast.  Idaho will remain sovereign and a nation unto itself as long as possible.

However, the USA will likely have a revolution before a full collapse.  This professor has a sci-fi sense of things, not a historical.  History shows that cultural divisions (language and racial) divide countries, not necessarily economic.  Even if there is a massive economic collapse, the political divisions in America will remain relatively unchanged, at least in revolutionary terms.  Outlying political bodies like Alaska and Hawaii may be lost to the union, but these things happen all the time.  There is a serious case to be made for Hawaiian independence anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This professor has obviously never been to Idaho.  We are a fiercely sovereign state, even against our federal government.  Lest we forget it was our representatives who fought against the USA PATRIOT act since it infringed on states' rights.  We are the leading proponent of gun ownership rights and commerce rights in the union.  Idaho Republicans ("Lincoln Republicans", mind you, not this neocon mess) oppose membership in the UN and other sovereignty-robbing entities.  </p>
<p>If there is a collapse of the USA, which is kind of a silly concept, this map will never be a reality.  Texas will never become part of Mexico - that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  Mexico is in no position, politically, militarily, or economically, to be annexing anything.  Alaska may be annexed by Canada, as may the American Midwest and Northeast.  Idaho will remain sovereign and a nation unto itself as long as possible.</p>
<p>However, the USA will likely have a revolution before a full collapse.  This professor has a sci-fi sense of things, not a historical.  History shows that cultural divisions (language and racial) divide countries, not necessarily economic.  Even if there is a massive economic collapse, the political divisions in America will remain relatively unchanged, at least in revolutionary terms.  Outlying political bodies like Alaska and Hawaii may be lost to the union, but these things happen all the time.  There is a serious case to be made for Hawaiian independence anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/the-coming-collapse-of-the-united-states/comment-page-2/#comment-1332341</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most collective bullshit i have ever read.  completely retarded.</description>
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