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	<title>Comments on: Sean Combs and Other Self-Made Americans</title>
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		<title>By: Libby</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1374471</link>
		<dc:creator>Libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone mentioned Bill Gates.  Get real.  Bill Gates came from a family with money.  That&#039;s like saying Donald Trump is self-made.  Learn your facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned Bill Gates.  Get real.  Bill Gates came from a family with money.  That's like saying Donald Trump is self-made.  Learn your facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1326657</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$700 a week as a paperboy???  Yeah and what was REALLY wrapped in those papers???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$700 a week as a paperboy???  Yeah and what was REALLY wrapped in those papers???</p>
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		<title>By: PancakeMan</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1326558</link>
		<dc:creator>PancakeMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why Obama is on the list, among that company he is totally out of place.  Being a president is always worthy of a certain amount of respect, but his story pales in comparison to the likes of Sam Walton or Frederick Douglass.  It comes off looking like they just put him in there out of Obama lust or because they didn&#039;t want to look bad.  

The first thing I noticed was the obvious absence of George Washington.  He came from average means to start an extremely successful career in surveying, eventually making heaps of money.  He served in the British army, was distinguished in battle, and retired to a life of farming and distilling until a certain Revolution, which he was most responsible for winning.  Oh, and he was the first (and some argue best) president of the United States.

Second, where is Bill Gates?  He was a college dropout, for Pete&#039;s sake, and he went on to become the richest man on Earth.  He doesn&#039;t quite fit the tone of the list, since his parents made good money and he lived comfortably during his youth, but cmon, making 50 billion dollars through his own hard work counts for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't see why Obama is on the list, among that company he is totally out of place.  Being a president is always worthy of a certain amount of respect, but his story pales in comparison to the likes of Sam Walton or Frederick Douglass.  It comes off looking like they just put him in there out of Obama lust or because they didn't want to look bad.  </p>
<p>The first thing I noticed was the obvious absence of George Washington.  He came from average means to start an extremely successful career in surveying, eventually making heaps of money.  He served in the British army, was distinguished in battle, and retired to a life of farming and distilling until a certain Revolution, which he was most responsible for winning.  Oh, and he was the first (and some argue best) president of the United States.</p>
<p>Second, where is Bill Gates?  He was a college dropout, for Pete's sake, and he went on to become the richest man on Earth.  He doesn't quite fit the tone of the list, since his parents made good money and he lived comfortably during his youth, but cmon, making 50 billion dollars through his own hard work counts for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Teaflax</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1326543</link>
		<dc:creator>Teaflax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean Combs is one of the people I tend to point to to prove the adage that ambition and drive is far more important than talent. Or intelligence, for that matter.

@sigh: actually, &quot;government handouts&quot; in the sense of a strong social safety net actually facilitate social mobility, a metric the US scores very low in, I&#039;m sorry to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean Combs is one of the people I tend to point to to prove the adage that ambition and drive is far more important than talent. Or intelligence, for that matter.</p>
<p>@sigh: actually, "government handouts" in the sense of a strong social safety net actually facilitate social mobility, a metric the US scores very low in, I'm sorry to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1325995</link>
		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enron&#039;s Ken Lay was a self-made man too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enron's Ken Lay was a self-made man too...</p>
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		<title>By: Noelegy</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1325703</link>
		<dc:creator>Noelegy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one of those &quot;Successories&quot; posters at work with the large word &quot;TEAMWORK&quot; and the text, &quot;There is no such thing as a self-made man. You can only reach your goals with the help of others.&quot; I don&#039;t know whether to find this uplifting or depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's one of those "Successories" posters at work with the large word "TEAMWORK" and the text, "There is no such thing as a self-made man. You can only reach your goals with the help of others." I don't know whether to find this uplifting or depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveL</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1325677</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please writers... don&#039;t encourage him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please writers... don't encourage him.</p>
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		<title>By: liphttam1</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1325441</link>
		<dc:creator>liphttam1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self made? Do you mean underdog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self made? Do you mean underdog?</p>
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		<title>By: LisaL</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1325368</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As another poster said, his story is impressive, but doesn&#039;t change the fact that he&#039;s a freakin moron douchenozzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another poster said, his story is impressive, but doesn't change the fact that he's a freakin moron douchenozzle.</p>
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		<title>By: sigh</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1325347</link>
		<dc:creator>sigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you mean that if people actually get off their lazy butts and quit watching TV and depending on government handouts they have a greater chance of doing something with their lives and can become sucessful?
America is doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you mean that if people actually get off their lazy butts and quit watching TV and depending on government handouts they have a greater chance of doing something with their lives and can become sucessful?<br />
America is doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Arden</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1325249</link>
		<dc:creator>Arden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do rappers always give themselves the dumbest sounding names...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do rappers always give themselves the dumbest sounding names...</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1324696</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laughing. Yes. All the way to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laughing. Yes. All the way to the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1324625</link>
		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P. Diddy? LOL. Excuse me, but.... bwaaahaahaahaa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P. Diddy? LOL. Excuse me, but.... bwaaahaahaahaa!</p>
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		<title>By: cooties</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/29/sean-combs-and-other-self-made-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-1324490</link>
		<dc:creator>cooties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His story is impressive, but I have to take issue with &#039;...putting out his own successful rap records&#039;.

I don&#039;t think &#039;I&#039;ll Be Missing You&#039; (the title of which hints at the original lyrics) would have been a success without Sting&#039;s &#039;input&#039; and don&#039;t get me started on &#039;Kashmir&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His story is impressive, but I have to take issue with '...putting out his own successful rap records'.</p>
<p>I don't think 'I'll Be Missing You' (the title of which hints at the original lyrics) would have been a success without Sting's 'input' and don't get me started on 'Kashmir'</p>
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