Comments on: Mind-Reading Computer Takes Images Straight out of Your Brain http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/ The Neat Side of the Web Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:00:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: soccerfan http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1648279 soccerfan Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:14:12 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1648279 Is all this device doing taking the signals traveling through the visual pathway and attempting to reproduce the image from the signals? That's what it looks like- it's not anywhere near reading thought if that's the case. Is all this device doing taking the signals traveling through the visual pathway and attempting to reproduce the image from the signals? That’s what it looks like- it’s not anywhere near reading thought if that’s the case.

]]> By: Neatoramawontsendmeapassword http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1502934 Neatoramawontsendmeapassword Sun, 22 Feb 2009 03:13:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1502934 Huge potential for abuse. Huge potential for abuse.

]]> By: cosmicdebris http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1445419 cosmicdebris Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:59:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1445419 I'm not too worried about people seeing my thoughts. It would be like a porno but with more candy and baseball bats. I’m not too worried about people seeing my thoughts. It would be like a porno but with more candy and baseball bats.

]]> By: robert-hocker http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1326891 robert-hocker Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:22:49 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1326891 the device created is no really big deal.it utilizes image processing exclusively;however,that is only necessary for new image exposure recording. there have been telepathic guided airplanes,cia programs,and brainwave frequency correlations to images in the early 1960's and prior. hopefully,this device will work well also;but,it should be analyzed for image capture.the brainwaves do not generate images;but,instead,create waveforms that represent those images. only the frontal lobe of the brain generates quasi-images. the device created is no really big deal.it utilizes image processing exclusively;however,that is only necessary for new image exposure recording.
there have been telepathic guided airplanes,cia programs,and brainwave frequency correlations to images in the early 1960′s and prior.
hopefully,this device will work well also;but,it should be analyzed for image capture.the brainwaves do not generate images;but,instead,create waveforms that represent those images.
only the frontal lobe of the brain generates quasi-images.

]]> By: The Dude http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1300224 The Dude Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:09:58 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1300224 Now no need of describing my dirt fantasies. My girl can just see them herself. Now no need of describing my dirt fantasies. My girl can just see them herself.

]]> By: GaryD http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1299760 GaryD Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:34:33 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1299760 Interesting, but I don't think it's quite what they make it out to be. They are using what comes into the eyes via the retina and then noting certain responses in the brain from each image. They then correlate the certain brain response elicited for each image. Note that this correlation had to be generated for each person. So, one persons brain response to the image was different than an others response. There really was no image re-construction at all. Merely matching a *specific* persons brain responses to an image - and each persons response was different. It's kind a like reading a persons body language I guess. Only in this case, each persons brain responded differently to the image.. So it's not even as general as body language reading. It's quite a stretch to go from this data to saying actual images from persons mind can be read in detail and images re-constructed. Interesting, but I don’t think it’s quite what they make it out to be. They are using what comes into the eyes via the retina and then noting certain responses in the brain from each image. They then correlate the certain brain response elicited for each image. Note that this correlation had to be generated for each person. So, one persons brain response to the image was different than an others response. There really was no image re-construction at all. Merely matching a *specific* persons brain responses to an image – and each persons response was different. It’s kind a like reading a persons body language I guess. Only in this case, each persons brain responded differently to the image.. So it’s not even as general as body language reading. It’s quite a stretch to go from this data to saying actual images from persons mind can be read in detail and images re-constructed.

]]> By: foadiaf http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1299688 foadiaf Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:02:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1299688 First off, different areas of the brain activate differently for true and false recognition of stimuli. That being said, dreams would probably fall into this same arena. Fox, Wisp isn't necessarily incorrect. We do use schemas for a lot of our cognition and attention. However, limiting it to just schemas is wrong considering he neglects the phonological loop, the visiospatial sketchpad, and the central executive as proposed by Baddeley. fedorajones is on the right track. If you factor in individual differences (we all wire up slightly different), it is doubtful that you will have your thoughts or dreams read anytime soon. As for the paper itself, I reserve comments until I actually read the paper. First off, different areas of the brain activate differently for true and false recognition of stimuli. That being said, dreams would probably fall into this same arena.

Fox, Wisp isn’t necessarily incorrect. We do use schemas for a lot of our cognition and attention. However, limiting it to just schemas is wrong considering he neglects the phonological loop, the visiospatial sketchpad, and the central executive as proposed by Baddeley.

fedorajones is on the right track. If you factor in individual differences (we all wire up slightly different), it is doubtful that you will have your thoughts or dreams read anytime soon.

As for the paper itself, I reserve comments until I actually read the paper.

]]> By: fedorajones http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1299161 fedorajones Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:47:56 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1299161 It's interesting research, but it's far from reading thoughts, so everyone can put their tinfoil hats away. The researchers showed random letters to subjects and recorded the fMRI signal that occured after each presentation. They trained a neural network with the data, then fed it results from other random trials. The part of the brain they focused on, primary visual cortex (V1), works well for this because there is a direct mapping between where light hits on the retina and which area of cortex is activated (check out the retinotopic map). Thus, it makes sense that you could easily go from V1 activation to retinal activation to original image. Other areas of the brain, even other areas of the visual cortex (such as those that process motion, color, and other aspects of an image), are not laid out as nicely, so dreams and other imagined imagery are safe from this technique. The real news seems to be that they were able to get enough of a signal difference via fMRI in order to decode V1 information. It’s interesting research, but it’s far from reading thoughts, so everyone can put their tinfoil hats away. The researchers showed random letters to subjects and recorded the fMRI signal that occured after each presentation. They trained a neural network with the data, then fed it results from other random trials. The part of the brain they focused on, primary visual cortex (V1), works well for this because there is a direct mapping between where light hits on the retina and which area of cortex is activated (check out the retinotopic map). Thus, it makes sense that you could easily go from V1 activation to retinal activation to original image.

Other areas of the brain, even other areas of the visual cortex (such as those that process motion, color, and other aspects of an image), are not laid out as nicely, so dreams and other imagined imagery are safe from this technique. The real news seems to be that they were able to get enough of a signal difference via fMRI in order to decode V1 information.

]]> By: Anon Ymous http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1298709 Anon Ymous Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:39:19 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1298709 “mind rape” about sums up my feelings of this. It is fascinating, but I don't trust anyone in this world anymore. Wish I could... “mind rape” about sums up my feelings of this. It is fascinating, but I don’t trust anyone in this world anymore. Wish I could…

]]> By: Ilia http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1296649 Ilia Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:33:05 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1296649 For all those saying that we can now have artificial eyes.. we already HAVE artificial eyes that allow blind people to see for quite a few years now. You guys are way behind.. For all those saying that we can now have artificial eyes.. we already HAVE artificial eyes that allow blind people to see for quite a few years now. You guys are way behind..

]]> By: Fox http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1294887 Fox Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:44:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1294887 Wisp, They tried using a bit map on a blind guy, and guess what: He could see in the same pattern that they were showing on the computer. The visual cortex sees images through brain signals in a grid like fashion. You can actually poke different parts of the brain with electricity and you will see it in different parts of your vision. By the way some people do think in words, my brother does. He has a very hard time visualizing things. I think in pictures and can rotate a 3d image in my head accurately. So do us a favor, before you say something is impossible do some research so you don't sound like a moron to those that actually know the field of study. Wisp, They tried using a bit map on a blind guy, and guess what: He could see in the same pattern that they were showing on the computer. The visual cortex sees images through brain signals in a grid like fashion. You can actually poke different parts of the brain with electricity and you will see it in different parts of your vision. By the way some people do think in words, my brother does. He has a very hard time visualizing things. I think in pictures and can rotate a 3d image in my head accurately.

So do us a favor, before you say something is impossible do some research so you don’t sound like a moron to those that actually know the field of study.

]]> By: sillysam http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1294659 sillysam Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:54:09 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1294659 I want my Dream Machine. I want my Dream Machine.

]]> By: Weird http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1270266 Weird Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:51:51 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1270266 According to the image, the electrodes reside in the vision related brain region. For instance, it is common that people can become blind, possibly permanently, if they get a hard blow to the back of the head. It can happen even, if people fall on their back and hit their head to a sidewalk edge or something. So, the point is taht it might be that they do not have access to thoughst, but just the images that the person looks at. According to the image, the electrodes reside in the vision related brain region. For instance, it is common that people can become blind, possibly permanently, if they get a hard blow to the back of the head. It can happen even, if people fall on their back and hit their head to a sidewalk edge or something.

So, the point is taht it might be that they do not have access to thoughst, but just the images that the person looks at.

]]> By: Evan http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1269509 Evan Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:36:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1269509 Major shenanigans. Proof please, else just bogus codswallop. Major shenanigans. Proof please, else just bogus codswallop.

]]> By: wisp http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1267062 wisp Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:27:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1267062 Jaxx: Dreams into IMAGES = Never gonna happen. Not now, not ever. I didn't say dream reading would be impossible. But the output would be very hard to understand (it would be a difficult art), and certainly NOT IMAGES! NEVER!!! Linking brains together would be much easier than this nonsense. PD: Notice how i spelled/spelt your nick right? Jaxx:

Dreams into IMAGES = Never gonna happen. Not now, not ever.

I didn’t say dream reading would be impossible. But the output would be very hard to understand (it would be a difficult art), and certainly NOT IMAGES! NEVER!!!

Linking brains together would be much easier than this nonsense.

PD: Notice how i spelled/spelt your nick right?

]]> By: ... http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1266966 ... Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:55:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1266966 Whaaaaaaat?! I'm leaning towards Jess's comment - current popular research notwithstanding. Whaaaaaaat?!

I’m leaning towards Jess’s comment – current popular research notwithstanding.

]]> By: Anon http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1266910 Anon Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:03:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1266910 Personally I kinda always wished I could show other people my dreams. Its a sad waste, that I'm the only one seeing them really. They're so... elaborate, detailed, and fantastical. Every morning they just slowly fade away and become harder to remember. I swear I could have a dream that would reveal the meaning of the universe, and I'd wake up just as I do everyday and forget about it all, and go make coffee. Personally I kinda always wished I could show other people my dreams. Its a sad waste, that I’m the only one seeing them really. They’re so… elaborate, detailed, and fantastical. Every morning they just slowly fade away and become harder to remember. I swear I could have a dream that would reveal the meaning of the universe, and I’d wake up just as I do everyday and forget about it all, and go make coffee.

]]> By: DOJ http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1266249 DOJ Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:22:57 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1266249 While there's some cool applications, I'd prefer the Big Brother Can 'O Worms to remain unopened. While there’s some cool applications, I’d prefer the Big Brother Can ‘O Worms to remain unopened.

]]> By: rocko http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1265778 rocko Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:22:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1265778 the brain works on electric impulses. if the waves ,or frequency, lengths can be measured and set why not! the brain works on electric impulses. if the waves ,or frequency, lengths can be measured and set why not!

]]> By: Mouserz http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264877 Mouserz Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:50:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264877 Dear god! I don't want anyone to be able to see what I'm thinking! Dear god! I don’t want anyone to be able to see what I’m thinking!

]]> By: liphttam1 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264866 liphttam1 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:42:16 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264866 No just no!! I realy hope this never happens. My brain is the only thing I get to keep secret!! I LOVES IT!! No just no!! I realy hope this never happens. My brain is the only thing I get to keep secret!! I LOVES IT!!

]]> By: MarcBee http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264700 MarcBee Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:01:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264700 if they need test subjects, i volunteer if they need test subjects,
i volunteer

]]> By: nicleT http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264523 nicleT Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:42:35 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264523 Is that my G4 Sawtooth tower over there??? Is that my G4 Sawtooth tower over there???

]]> By: Jaxx http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264509 Jaxx Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:38:45 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264509 @whisp Never say never, did the movie Fivel teach you nothing? Dream reading may be millenia away but I can actually believe they found a way to decode some simple data from the visual cortex that is pre-conversion. Dreaming permits each and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives. -- William Dement @whisp
Never say never, did the movie Fivel teach you nothing?

Dream reading may be millenia away but I can actually believe they found a way to decode some simple data from the visual cortex that is pre-conversion.

Dreaming permits each and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives. — William Dement

]]> By: George Orwell http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264425 George Orwell Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:07:32 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264425 Here come the Thought Police... Here come the Thought Police…

]]> By: wisp http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264348 wisp Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:46:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264348 A complete nonsense. We don't dream with images (and we don't think with words). Dreams are encoded. You think you dreamed about a very detailed tree. What actually went on was: set: "tree"; value=detailed; resemblance: "tree from the front of my house when i had 8 years old"... And so on. And even the coding is encoded. And each person has a series of layers of subtle unique encoding. Sorry, but this will NEVER be possible. A complete nonsense.

We don’t dream with images (and we don’t think with words).

Dreams are encoded.

You think you dreamed about a very detailed tree.

What actually went on was: set: “tree”; value=detailed; resemblance: “tree from the front of my house when i had 8 years old”… And so on.

And even the coding is encoded. And each person has a series of layers of subtle unique encoding.

Sorry, but this will NEVER be possible.

]]> By: Rocky Rook http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264252 Rocky Rook Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:02:31 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264252 This is amazing. Like I said before, I knew stuff like this was eventually going to happen ... even in my lifetime. But what suprises me is that it is happening so early in my lifetime. This is amazing. Like I said before, I knew stuff like this was eventually going to happen … even in my lifetime. But what suprises me is that it is happening so early in my lifetime.

]]> By: yo http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264206 yo Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:43:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264206 The entire movie Until the End of the World was built around a guy who made such a machine. The entire movie Until the End of the World was built around a guy who made such a machine.

]]> By: thirdtruck http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264201 thirdtruck Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:40:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264201 I'm really forward to honest-to-goodness X-ray vision, not to mention infrared and ultraviolet. I’m really forward to honest-to-goodness X-ray vision, not to mention infrared and ultraviolet.

]]> By: mother theresa http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264159 mother theresa Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:12:27 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264159 If it's for real and can be greatly refined, then it might be useful for determining what if anything a comatose patient or "vegetative" individual is "thinking" in terms of generating images if they are able to do so. If it’s for real and can be greatly refined, then it might be useful
for determining what if anything a comatose patient or “vegetative”
individual is “thinking” in terms of generating images if they are able to do so.

]]> By: Gauldar http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1264053 Gauldar Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:40:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1264053 ely, Dude. You mean you don't even have it on YET? ely, Dude. You mean you don’t even have it on YET?

]]> By: ely http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1263993 ely Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:21:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1263993 i think i need to put on my tinfoil hat i think i need to put on my tinfoil hat

]]> By: Gauldar http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1263963 Gauldar Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:16:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1263963 That reminds me of of a Max Headroom (old tv show) episode where they downloaded people dreams for entertainment. Matt Frewer's character I think described it as "mind rape". If something can be abused, it will be. That reminds me of of a Max Headroom (old tv show) episode where they downloaded people dreams for entertainment. Matt Frewer’s character I think described it as “mind rape”. If something can be abused, it will be.

]]> By: Veracosa http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1263916 Veracosa Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:06:42 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1263916 If it is real (which on the internet is totally debatable), then this opens a huge can of worms regarding privacy. (Once it reaches a full potential.) Obviously this could be used to better identify assailants from crimes, help people with psychiatric trauma, etc. But it could also be badly abused by interrogating authorities (Guantanamo Bay?). I'd personally be interested in seeing how different people view the same things; everyone has a slightly different way of remembering events, features, etc. It could provide a lot of useful information on how we store data in our brains! If it is real (which on the internet is totally debatable), then this opens a huge can of worms regarding privacy. (Once it reaches a full potential.)
Obviously this could be used to better identify assailants from crimes, help people with psychiatric trauma, etc. But it could also be badly abused by interrogating authorities (Guantanamo Bay?).

I’d personally be interested in seeing how different people view the same things; everyone has a slightly different way of remembering events, features, etc. It could provide a lot of useful information on how we store data in our brains!

]]> By: Nat http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1263633 Nat Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:09:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1263633 I'm curious though. They're converting the brainwaves of what people are actually seeing into images. Wouldn't that be different from what our brains create in our dreams? Our eyes don't actively see our dreams, but the test subjects were actively looking at the images. I wonder if our brains translate images from our eye into brainwaves the same way as it translates imagined images. Even if this only turned out to a visual thing, it's pretty amazing. Find a way to create the brainwaves and maybe we'll all have extra artificial eyes to perceive the world through. How trippy would that be. To experience the body from one side of the room, but visually perceive it from the other side. Or have multiple sets of eyes that you can switch between in different fixed locations. Weiiirdd.. I’m curious though. They’re converting the brainwaves of what people are actually seeing into images. Wouldn’t that be different from what our brains create in our dreams? Our eyes don’t actively see our dreams, but the test subjects were actively looking at the images. I wonder if our brains translate images from our eye into brainwaves the same way as it translates imagined images.
Even if this only turned out to a visual thing, it’s pretty amazing. Find a way to create the brainwaves and maybe we’ll all have extra artificial eyes to perceive the world through. How trippy would that be. To experience the body from one side of the room, but visually perceive it from the other side. Or have multiple sets of eyes that you can switch between in different fixed locations. Weiiirdd..

]]> By: Gauldar http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1263274 Gauldar Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:52:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1263274 Jess, there has actualy been extensive research into the data interpretation of brain waves. It seems they still have alot of noise to filter out, but it's a step in the right direction towards being able to build artificial eyes for blind people. Jess, there has actualy been extensive research into the data interpretation of brain waves. It seems they still have alot of noise to filter out, but it’s a step in the right direction towards being able to build artificial eyes for blind people.

]]> By: ted http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1262911 ted Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:16:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1262911 Proving a lot of psychic phenomena? If psychic phenomena haven't been able to prove themselves so far... I call shenanigans on this one anyways. Proving a lot of psychic phenomena?
If psychic phenomena haven’t been able to prove themselves so far…

I call shenanigans on this one anyways.

]]> By: Jess http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1262661 Jess Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:05:46 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1262661 faaaaaaaaaake faaaaaaaaaake

]]> By: AI http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1262553 AI Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:41:43 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1262553 Hmmm... maybe Deckert wasn't a replicant after all ;) Hmmm… maybe Deckert wasn’t a replicant after all ;)

]]> By: Josh http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1262436 Josh Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:17:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1262436 creepy.. creepy..

]]> By: raina_c http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1262335 raina_c Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:46:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1262335 That's Amazing!!! That’s Amazing!!!

]]> By: what if: dreamtube.com http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-1262171 what if: dreamtube.com Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:51:10 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/12/mind-reading-computer-takes-images-straight-out-of-your-brain/#comment-1262171 Wow, for the first time it feels like we're really living in the future. Dreams have always fascinated me. this could end up proving a lot of psychic phenomena. Wow, for the first time it feels like we’re really living in the future. Dreams have always fascinated me. this could end up proving a lot of psychic phenomena.

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