Comments on: This Test Brought To You By... http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/ The Neat Side of the Web Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:18:41 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rocky Rook http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1245233 Rocky Rook Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:17:34 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1245233 I think the teacher is being very innovative. That is the American spirit ... you find a solution to get the job done even in the face of adversity. I agree that there is an underfunding problem, but that teacher is one smart person who is potentially teaching two lessons with that 'sponsered-by' quiz. I think the teacher is being very innovative. That is the American spirit ... you find a solution to get the job done even in the face of adversity. I agree that there is an underfunding problem, but that teacher is one smart person who is potentially teaching two lessons with that 'sponsered-by' quiz.

]]> By: Noelegy http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1245174 Noelegy Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:52:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1245174 Lack of funding? Not so much. Money going to the wrong places and people? Um, yeah. Look at what the Dallas (Texas) Independent School District is going through right now. DISD has metric craploads of money poured into it every year, and it has a 50% non-graduation rate. As someone else said, get rid of most of the bureacract and administration, and actually put the money where it will do some good (merit-based raises for teachers is a good start). Lack of funding? Not so much. Money going to the wrong places and people? Um, yeah. Look at what the Dallas (Texas) Independent School District is going through right now. DISD has metric craploads of money poured into it every year, and it has a 50% non-graduation rate. As someone else said, get rid of most of the bureacract and administration, and actually put the money where it will do some good (merit-based raises for teachers is a good start).

]]> By: darlzwik http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1244418 darlzwik Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:21:38 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1244418 Read "The Underground History of American Education" By former New York State and City teacher of the year, John Taylor Gatto. Read "The Underground History of American Education" By former New York State and City teacher of the year, John Taylor Gatto.

]]> By: Rocky http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1240719 Rocky Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:50:14 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1240719 Thanks for that, Scott-O. :) ChrisM70, maybe you ar onto something. How about a volume discount, and at the bottom the copying company advertise on the test saying they were the one who printed it off? Thanks for that, Scott-O. :)

ChrisM70, maybe you ar onto something. How about a volume discount, and at the bottom the copying company advertise on the test saying they were the one who printed it off?

]]> By: ChrisM70 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1239105 ChrisM70 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:10:17 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1239105 A school that can't afford to print tests? What kind of a budget does this school have? What is wrong with the parents if they won't pay to fund basic printed materials for schools? The original story says that it costs him 3¢ per copy. The school can't work out a deal or find a place that would print them cheaper? Could they not get their own copying machine? Our country's priorities are completely screwed up. The last thing a teacher needs to do is spend time figuring out ways on how to keep his/her corporate sponsors happy, or how to bring in more revenue. They should spend their time TEACHING KIDS. It would probably also help if the teachers got more help from the parents, too. A school that can't afford to print tests?

What kind of a budget does this school have?
What is wrong with the parents if they won't pay to fund basic printed materials for schools?

The original story says that it costs him 3¢ per copy. The school can't work out a deal or find a place that would print them cheaper? Could they not get their own copying machine?

Our country's priorities are completely screwed up.

The last thing a teacher needs to do is spend time figuring out ways on how to keep his/her corporate sponsors happy, or how to bring in more revenue. They should spend their time TEACHING KIDS.

It would probably also help if the teachers got more help from the parents, too.

]]> By: Christophe http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1239091 Christophe Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:05:00 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1239091 "Sponsored by Fleet enema" I'm sure this one would make some headlines ;) "Sponsored by Fleet enema"

I'm sure this one would make some headlines ;)

]]> By: Scott-O http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1238388 Scott-O Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:44:18 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1238388 Rocky hit the nail DIRECTLY on the head. If we rid of 90% of the useless bureacrats and put the money saved into the classrooms then we would probably see a sizeable increase in the quality of the education our children receive. Naturally, the odds of the education system doing away with resource wasting unions and bureaucrats is as likely as my having a colo-primate-ectomy. Rocky hit the nail DIRECTLY on the head. If we rid of 90% of the useless bureacrats and put the money saved into the classrooms then we would probably see a sizeable increase in the quality of the education our children receive. Naturally, the odds of the education system doing away with resource wasting unions and bureaucrats is as likely as my having a colo-primate-ectomy.

]]> By: Rocky http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1238312 Rocky Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:20:07 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1238312 Here's a math question: "If your typical school employs one administrator for every teacher, is 'funding' of schools the real problem?" Here's a math question: "If your typical school employs one administrator for every teacher, is 'funding' of schools the real problem?"

]]> By: qwhacker http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1236902 qwhacker Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:05:59 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1236902 no, this isn't subliminal, but if the teachers worked the company names into the questions it would be somewhat subliminal... no, this isn't subliminal, but if the teachers worked the company names into the questions it would be somewhat subliminal...

]]> By: Johnny Cat http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1236436 Johnny Cat Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:35:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1236436 How is that subliminal? How is that subliminal?

]]> By: weeble warble http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1236342 weeble warble Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:08:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1236342 I'm a music student at FSU, and the College of Music has completely done away with making copies outside of copying music score to save money in the budget. We are responsible for printing out all of our assignments/syllabi and even our evaluation forms are online now. This makes a lot of sense for college students because we have student online accounts, but for high school, this is unacceptable! I'm a music student at FSU, and the College of Music has completely done away with making copies outside of copying music score to save money in the budget. We are responsible for printing out all of our assignments/syllabi and even our evaluation forms are online now. This makes a lot of sense for college students because we have student online accounts, but for high school, this is unacceptable!

]]> By: qwhacker http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1236321 qwhacker Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:01:15 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1236321 i think the teacher should put the ads in a little bit better. like, Jimmy has $500 and needs to purchase building supplies from (YOUR COMPANY NAME HERE). If the cost of.... etc. Just work the company names, slogans, etc into the questions. subliminal messages for the win! i think the teacher should put the ads in a little bit better. like,

Jimmy has $500 and needs to purchase building supplies from (YOUR COMPANY NAME HERE). If the cost of.... etc.

Just work the company names, slogans, etc into the questions. subliminal messages for the win!

]]> By: Edward http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235961 Edward Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:23:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235961 I would haul my child out of that school and find a place that had a better perspective on life. Unfortunately, that place might be my kitchen table. I would haul my child out of that school and find a place that had a better perspective on life. Unfortunately, that place might be my kitchen table.

]]> By: Alex http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235902 Alex Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:06:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235902 What's next? Selling the answers? Hey, actually, that's a good idea! What's next? Selling the answers? Hey, actually, that's a good idea!

]]> By: Ali S. http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235842 Ali S. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:49:20 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235842 "By putting your name on this test you agreeing to give me the Power of Attorney." :) "By putting your name on this test you agreeing to give me the Power of Attorney." :)

]]> By: Tony LaRocca http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235531 Tony LaRocca Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:32:47 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235531 McDonalds: "Do well on this test, or you'll wind up working here." And I agree with previous posters - the lack of funding of our country's public education system is a disgrace. McDonalds: "Do well on this test, or you'll wind up working here."

And I agree with previous posters - the lack of funding of our country's public education system is a disgrace.

]]> By: Woogie http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235491 Woogie Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:19:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235491 "Cheat and we'll break your legs." "Cheat and we'll break your legs."

]]> By: xultar http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235451 xultar Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:12:22 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235451 WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT AMERICA PEOPLE!?! OMG this makes me angry! Why in the HAYLE does a teacher have to use his own money to print out tests? Why must a teacher sell ads on freaking EXAMS. This is SICK!!! American dominance and leadership is gone. WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT AMERICA PEOPLE!?!

OMG this makes me angry!

Why in the HAYLE does a teacher have to use his own money to print out tests?

Why must a teacher sell ads on freaking EXAMS. This is SICK!!!

American dominance and leadership is gone.

]]> By: darlzwik http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235407 darlzwik Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:56:50 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235407 I would advertise the local home school group I would advertise the local home school group

]]> By: Ola Amigo http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235395 Ola Amigo Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:56:02 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235395 Good to see they're doing their calculus in any case. Good to see they're doing their calculus in any case.

]]> By: Evil Pundit http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235240 Evil Pundit Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:12:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235240 Proposed ad: "Steve, you better pass this test or you're grounded for a month -- Dad." Proposed ad:

"Steve, you better pass this test or you're grounded for a month -- Dad."

]]> By: Noelegy http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235053 Noelegy Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:23:52 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235053 Why does this situation exist in the first place? Why is the teacher unable to afford to print out tests for his students? Why is the teacher in the position of having to pay for printing out tests? Why does this situation exist in the first place? Why is the teacher unable to afford to print out tests for his students? Why is the teacher in the position of having to pay for printing out tests?

]]> By: Jill Harness http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1235016 Jill Harness Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:16:04 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1235016 Agreed Jake D. Really, I typed it without double checking it and that was my bad. What Zav didn't point out is that I wrote it without making sense at first by saying "A teacher who could afford" regardless of grammar, that just doesn't make sense. Agreed Jake D.
Really, I typed it without double checking it and that was my bad. What Zav didn't point out is that I wrote it without making sense at first by saying "A teacher who could afford" regardless of grammar, that just doesn't make sense.

]]> By: Jake D. http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1234994 Jake D. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:09:28 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1234994 I would probably write "Zav could have corrected the grammar mistakes in a less douchecanoe manner." I would probably write "Zav could have corrected the grammar mistakes in a less douchecanoe manner."

]]> By: Scott-O http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1234919 Scott-O Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:49:25 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1234919 I would advertise a tutoring service or, better yet, use a slogan that would help the test taker. Something like "King Phillip Cast Off Five Green Ships", "Pi = 3.1415", etc. Or "Timmy- if I had 10 more dollars this would have been an easy "A"- Love, Mom" I would advertise a tutoring service or, better yet, use a slogan that would help the test taker. Something like "King Phillip Cast Off Five Green Ships", "Pi = 3.1415", etc.

Or "Timmy- if I had 10 more dollars this would have been an easy "A"- Love, Mom"

]]> By: zav http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/comment-page-1/#comment-1234906 zav Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:48:23 +0000 http://www.neatorama.com/2008/12/02/this-test-brought-to-you-by/#comment-1234906 Ok. Please pay a little more attention to the difference between possessive and plural. It's basic grammar school English. Incorrect: A teacher who could afford to print out the tests for his classes has taken to selling ads on his students test. Correct: A teacher who could afford to print out the tests for his classes has taken to selling ads on his students' tests. Incorrect: What kind of a message would you put on your kids test? Correct: What kind of a message would you put on your kid's test? Plural = ending with an s. Possessive = ending with an 's. plural possessive = ending with an s'. The less we pay attention to basic accuracy, the more we expose others to our mistakes. It's not like we have to use a semicolon or anything. this is just the one of the basics of using English at a 5th grade level. Ok. Please pay a little more attention to the difference between possessive and plural. It's basic grammar school English.

Incorrect:
A teacher who could afford to print out the tests for his classes has taken to selling ads on his students test.

Correct:
A teacher who could afford to print out the tests for his classes has taken to selling ads on his students' tests.

Incorrect:
What kind of a message would you put on your kids test?

Correct:
What kind of a message would you put on your kid's test?

Plural = ending with an s.
Possessive = ending with an 's.
plural possessive = ending with an s'.

The less we pay attention to basic accuracy, the more we expose others to our mistakes. It's not like we have to use a semicolon or anything. this is just the one of the basics of using English at a 5th grade level.

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