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	<title>Comments on: Bullet Time 2.0 by Toshiba</title>
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		<title>By: samlive</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1199312</link>
		<dc:creator>samlive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would possibly have been interesting if it werent trying to sell &quot;something&quot; (however ambiguous that &#039;something&#039; may have been). If it had been a purely artistic endeavor it would have garnered my respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would possibly have been interesting if it werent trying to sell "something" (however ambiguous that 'something' may have been). If it had been a purely artistic endeavor it would have garnered my respect.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1199308</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremely cool.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremely cool.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: avraamov</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1197630</link>
		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o.k - it&#039;s the hoop camera from the &#039;70&#039;s combined with muybridge! i think my ire was rather that the ad industry consistently sets itself up as the vanguard of creativity (i blame the bolivian marching powder - and i know that&#039;s a cliché, but it&#039;s also true). a recent example: the honda &#039;cog&#039; car ad &#039;borrowing&#039; from &#039;fischli and Weiss&#039;s &#039;the way things go&#039; springs to mind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U82eWptFxSs). 
don&#039;t get me wrong - there&#039;s a lot of creativity in advertising. but there&#039;s a lot of convenient myopia as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o.k - it's the hoop camera from the '70's combined with muybridge! i think my ire was rather that the ad industry consistently sets itself up as the vanguard of creativity (i blame the bolivian marching powder - and i know that's a cliché, but it's also true). a recent example: the honda 'cog' car ad 'borrowing' from 'fischli and Weiss's 'the way things go' springs to mind (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U82eWptFxSs)" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U82eWptFxSs)</a>.<br />
don't get me wrong - there's a lot of creativity in advertising. but there's a lot of convenient myopia as well.</p>
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		<title>By: popeyeisgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>popeyeisgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@HenningKO

the two movies are antedating the matrix? are you really sure about that?</description>
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<p>the two movies are antedating the matrix? are you really sure about that?</p>
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		<title>By: v.dog</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1196844</link>
		<dc:creator>v.dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aea: Those &#039;silly actions&#039; can&#039;t be done by a single camera- that was entirely the point. 

Bullet time isn&#039;t about stopping the action, but separating the camera&#039;s movement in space from its movement through time, allowing you to move through the scene independently of the scene&#039;s timeline. 

With bullet time the scene could only have one timeline. Here however, the actors could each have their own timeline within the scene; some moving forward, some back, and some looping, which is much harder to accomplish. Hence the ad is to say &#039;we can do it&#039;.

As for the ad itself, it came off to me as being to &#039;gimmicky&#039;, too much of a tech demo. I would have preferred to have seen something more cohesive, like as a real world scene with the different elements moving back and forth through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aea: Those 'silly actions' can't be done by a single camera- that was entirely the point. </p>
<p>Bullet time isn't about stopping the action, but separating the camera's movement in space from its movement through time, allowing you to move through the scene independently of the scene's timeline. </p>
<p>With bullet time the scene could only have one timeline. Here however, the actors could each have their own timeline within the scene; some moving forward, some back, and some looping, which is much harder to accomplish. Hence the ad is to say 'we can do it'.</p>
<p>As for the ad itself, it came off to me as being to 'gimmicky', too much of a tech demo. I would have preferred to have seen something more cohesive, like as a real world scene with the different elements moving back and forth through it.</p>
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		<title>By: stormie24</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1196683</link>
		<dc:creator>stormie24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was a cool video but I liked the comments too, some of you are making me laugh! hehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was a cool video but I liked the comments too, some of you are making me laugh! hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty cool.
The amazing thought is that 20 years ago a 20 Mo HDD was the norm ; today we&#039;re close to 2 To HDD (My HDD is a 1To WD caviar) ; what will we do in 20 years?
Watch youtube in hi-res?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool.<br />
The amazing thought is that 20 years ago a 20 Mo HDD was the norm ; today we're close to 2 To HDD (My HDD is a 1To WD caviar) ; what will we do in 20 years?<br />
Watch youtube in hi-res?</p>
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		<title>By: Aurel</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1195191</link>
		<dc:creator>Aurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crystal Castles!!!</description>
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		<title>By: henningKO</title>
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		<dc:creator>henningKO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The technique that has come to be known as &quot;Bullet-time&quot; may have been invented in the 70&#039;s (and used notably in Buffalo 66 and Lost In Space, both antedating the Matrix), but Matrix&#039;s bullet-time was actually a step forward because it didn&#039;t stop the action... you could go forward and backward in space AND time and that kind of freedom really required digital file-management.

Though it is neat, this spot is nothing the Matrix guys couldn&#039;t have done 10 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The technique that has come to be known as "Bullet-time" may have been invented in the 70's (and used notably in Buffalo 66 and Lost In Space, both antedating the Matrix), but Matrix's bullet-time was actually a step forward because it didn't stop the action... you could go forward and backward in space AND time and that kind of freedom really required digital file-management.</p>
<p>Though it is neat, this spot is nothing the Matrix guys couldn't have done 10 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1194804</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sure does take a lot of work to bore me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sure does take a lot of work to bore me.</p>
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		<title>By: avraamov</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1194580</link>
		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;it demonstrates toshiba&#039;s commitment to staying ahead of advancement in film and television&#039;

knackers it does. this technique was invented at the Slade art college in London in the 1970&#039;s. a large hoop shaped camera loaded with film, each frame exposed simultaneously, so that instead of travelling through time as the film runs, you travel through space.

this is just your usual self-important advertising guff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'it demonstrates toshiba's commitment to staying ahead of advancement in film and television'</p>
<p>knackers it does. this technique was invented at the Slade art college in London in the 1970's. a large hoop shaped camera loaded with film, each frame exposed simultaneously, so that instead of travelling through time as the film runs, you travel through space.</p>
<p>this is just your usual self-important advertising guff...</p>
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		<title>By: silentwatcher24</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1194056</link>
		<dc:creator>silentwatcher24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats... cool and weird all at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats... cool and weird all at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: rageagainsttherobots</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1193801</link>
		<dc:creator>rageagainsttherobots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised this project was greenlit. I wonder how much it cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised this project was greenlit. I wonder how much it cost.</p>
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		<title>By: renderanything</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1193703</link>
		<dc:creator>renderanything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the overwhelming amount of composting and editing is staggering to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the overwhelming amount of composting and editing is staggering to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: MarcBee</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1193212</link>
		<dc:creator>MarcBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crystal castles is amazing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crystal castles is amazing</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Rook</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1193081</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky Rook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with sushirama.  Density of hard drives is always increasing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with sushirama.  Density of hard drives is always increasing.</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1192823</link>
		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t bother with the making of video. The commercial was okay, I suppose, but I didn&#039;t get what they were advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn't bother with the making of video. The commercial was okay, I suppose, but I didn't get what they were advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: sushirama</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1192621</link>
		<dc:creator>sushirama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were laughing at having 20terabytes of video. Thats really not that much. In large storage arrays a typical cabinet will have 8 to 10 drive chassis with 15- one tb drives each, times 3 to 10 cabinets. (1500 tb easy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were laughing at having 20terabytes of video. Thats really not that much. In large storage arrays a typical cabinet will have 8 to 10 drive chassis with 15- one tb drives each, times 3 to 10 cabinets. (1500 tb easy).</p>
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		<title>By: field</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1192292</link>
		<dc:creator>field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good!</p>
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		<title>By: gdrawlinson</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1192144</link>
		<dc:creator>gdrawlinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks really neat. I dont get whats so funny at the end if the second video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks really neat. I dont get whats so funny at the end if the second video.</p>
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		<title>By: Aea</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1192105</link>
		<dc:creator>Aea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, isn&#039;t the whole idea of Bullet Time to actually stop the action, if it wasn&#039;t for the silly actions this could have been easily achieved by using a regular camera going in a circle. Not impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, isn't the whole idea of Bullet Time to actually stop the action, if it wasn't for the silly actions this could have been easily achieved by using a regular camera going in a circle. Not impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1192084</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Crystal Castles music choice made this for me.  Best Ad I&#039;ve seen in a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1191990</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why my friend has made a small fortune selling high speed, high capacity data storage to the film industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why my friend has made a small fortune selling high speed, high capacity data storage to the film industry.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveL</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/18/bullet-time-20-by-toshiba/comment-page-1/#comment-1191966</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok... it was a neat little clip that amused me for a few seconds. The pretentious &quot;making of&quot; clip however... pffftt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok... it was a neat little clip that amused me for a few seconds. The pretentious "making of" clip however... pffftt...</p>
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