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	<title>Comments on: The Miller-Urey Experiment Revisited</title>
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		<title>By: Eagle1600</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1478909</link>
		<dc:creator>Eagle1600</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miller Urey experiment ignored many conditions in the atmosphere that would breakdown the chemical synthesis they did achieve e.g. cytosine -  has no chemical pathway during earth&#039;s primordial past, the gases Miller relies upon - consume the chemicals that create this necessary component of nucleic acids. Ribose, phosphate compounds also create problems in Miller&#039;s scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miller Urey experiment ignored many conditions in the atmosphere that would breakdown the chemical synthesis they did achieve e.g. cytosine &#8211;  has no chemical pathway during earth&#8217;s primordial past, the gases Miller relies upon &#8211; consume the chemicals that create this necessary component of nucleic acids. Ribose, phosphate compounds also create problems in Miller&#8217;s scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle1600</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1478841</link>
		<dc:creator>Eagle1600</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deep sea hyrdothermal vents would actually inhibit life formation. Experiments show that amino acids could form in these vents but only have a a half life of a few minutes - some sugars last only a few seconds. No RNA/DNA, peptide formation -  and, worse, ammonia can not exist in levels necessary for life in these vents. What characteristics of these vents that would allow life - also destroys life. Schoonen, Xu - Astrobiology 1, (2001) pg 122-123.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deep sea hyrdothermal vents would actually inhibit life formation. Experiments show that amino acids could form in these vents but only have a a half life of a few minutes &#8211; some sugars last only a few seconds. No RNA/DNA, peptide formation &#8211;  and, worse, ammonia can not exist in levels necessary for life in these vents. What characteristics of these vents that would allow life &#8211; also destroys life. Schoonen, Xu &#8211; Astrobiology 1, (2001) pg 122-123.</p>
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		<title>By: Desdenova</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1121793</link>
		<dc:creator>Desdenova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The creationist claim that an oxygen rich atmosphere invalidates Miller&#039;s evidence for abiogenesis is based on a ( likely intentional ) misreading of a 2004 paper titled &quot; U-rich Archaean sea-floor sediments from Greenland - indications of &gt;3700 Ma oxygenic photosynthesis. &quot;

 The paper discusses the transportation of uranium through oxygen rich water 3.7 billion years ago, indicating that photosynthetic organisms existed some 200 million years earlier than previously believed. Instead of invalidating the experiment, the paper only pushes the origin of life back a little, geologically speaking. 

Lacking valid peer reviewed alternatives, the creationist community simply relied on one of their usual tactics, misrepresentation, to create yet another straw man in their unflagging efforts to discredit the truth of evolution.

Back to the drawing board for the creationists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The creationist claim that an oxygen rich atmosphere invalidates Miller&#8217;s evidence for abiogenesis is based on a ( likely intentional ) misreading of a 2004 paper titled &#8221; U-rich Archaean sea-floor sediments from Greenland &#8211; indications of &gt;3700 Ma oxygenic photosynthesis. &#8221;</p>
<p> The paper discusses the transportation of uranium through oxygen rich water 3.7 billion years ago, indicating that photosynthetic organisms existed some 200 million years earlier than previously believed. Instead of invalidating the experiment, the paper only pushes the origin of life back a little, geologically speaking. </p>
<p>Lacking valid peer reviewed alternatives, the creationist community simply relied on one of their usual tactics, misrepresentation, to create yet another straw man in their unflagging efforts to discredit the truth of evolution.</p>
<p>Back to the drawing board for the creationists.</p>
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		<title>By: volcanogodless</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1091686</link>
		<dc:creator>volcanogodless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While a fascinating experiment, it has since been proven that the primordial Earth&#039;s atmosphere was CO2 and repetition of the Miller-Urey experiment under these conditions yielded no results. :( 

back to the drawing board....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While a fascinating experiment, it has since been proven that the primordial Earth&#8217;s atmosphere was CO2 and repetition of the Miller-Urey experiment under these conditions yielded no results. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>back to the drawing board&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tempscire</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1091025</link>
		<dc:creator>Tempscire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t even clean out the tubes before packing them up? :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t even clean out the tubes before packing them up? :p</p>
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		<title>By: issacsullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1090685</link>
		<dc:creator>issacsullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet there would be lots of lifeforms on anything I packed away for 30 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet there would be lots of lifeforms on anything I packed away for 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: su.wei</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1090521</link>
		<dc:creator>su.wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure it passes as science! but they need to reproduce the experiment. something im sure they&#039;re going to do. 

soooper exciting. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure it passes as science! but they need to reproduce the experiment. something im sure they&#8217;re going to do. </p>
<p>soooper exciting. <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are not reproducing the experiment? Just testing stuff that has sat around for years? While interesting, I do not think this passes as science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not reproducing the experiment? Just testing stuff that has sat around for years? While interesting, I do not think this passes as science.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali S.</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/18/the-miller-urey-experiment-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1090447</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading a report about this in National Geographic magazine.  It was truely fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading a report about this in National Geographic magazine.  It was truely fascinating.</p>
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