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	<title>Comments on: The Man Who Stuck His Head Inside a Particle Accelerator</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is anyone one able to elaborate on how only half his face aged? Maybe a link to something that has been published that supports a theory on the specifics of how that is possible. - I'm not doubting, just really curious..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is anyone one able to elaborate on how only half his face aged? Maybe a link to something that has been published that supports a theory on the specifics of how that is possible. - I&#8217;m not doubting, just really curious..</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Goodz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Goodz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this sounds like the beginning of a superhero. =D</description>
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		<title>By: Vodka and Coke Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1155044</link>
		<dc:creator>Vodka and Coke Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vodka brings to Coke the thing that Coke has been missing - Vodka!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vodka brings to Coke the thing that Coke has been missing - Vodka!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not having enough knowledge on the subject, and not knowing how many proton's were being accelerated etc, should his head not have been peppered with a line of holes as his head entered the chamber? What are the chances that his head was in that position at the exact moment the proton(s) left the accelerator beam pipe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having enough knowledge on the subject, and not knowing how many proton&#8217;s were being accelerated etc, should his head not have been peppered with a line of holes as his head entered the chamber? What are the chances that his head was in that position at the exact moment the proton(s) left the accelerator beam pipe?</p>
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		<title>By: i.refute</title>
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		<dc:creator>i.refute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.

Light "brighter than a thousand suns" should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.

Then the description of the"path of the beam" seems more like a description of science fiction.

Then "the insides of his head continued to burn" for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.

Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.</p>
<p>Light &#8220;brighter than a thousand suns&#8221; should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.</p>
<p>Then the description of the&#8221;path of the beam&#8221; seems more like a description of science fiction.</p>
<p>Then &#8220;the insides of his head continued to burn&#8221; for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.</p>
<p>Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</p>
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		<title>By: tom at live</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom at live</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.
Light "brighter than a thousand suns" should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.
Then the description of the"path of the beam" seems more like a description of science fiction.
Then "the insides of his head continued to burn" for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.
Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.<br />
Light &#8220;brighter than a thousand suns&#8221; should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.<br />
Then the description of the&#8221;path of the beam&#8221; seems more like a description of science fiction.<br />
Then &#8220;the insides of his head continued to burn&#8221; for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.<br />
Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabik7</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1088138</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabik7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda' sheds a whole new light(sorry)on getting on someone's "bad" side...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda&#8217; sheds a whole new light(sorry)on getting on someone&#8217;s &#8220;bad&#8221; side&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this story from the onion.com?  it seems like it considering it's complete bs.</description>
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		<title>By: Kopachris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kopachris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, trying to combine everything said in the comments, leaving the actual article aside for a moment.  The difference between PROTONS and PHOTONS does not matter at the moment.  Particle accelerators usually shoot PROTONS (except CRT monitors and TVs, which shoot electrons).  No, they do not get the protons AT the speed of light.  They do get pretty close, though.  It seems that the proton beam was directed into an offshoot of the main loop for testing in an atmosphere.  The air molecules in the chamber could easily slow the beam down to the speed of SOUND.  Thanks, Sasha, for finding that other article.
Putting THAT article aside, I see no reason why protons previously traveling close to the speed of light can't remain coherent in an atmosphere at room temperature.  And again, the air molecules would easily slow them down to around the speed of sound.
I think what the article means by the face "froze" was that he can't use it and it didn't change shape.  Normal faces grow and develop.  They change their shape over time.  The side of his face that got shot by a proton beam didn't do that.  It was frozen like a guy who had a stroke.

Now, I could very easily be totally wrong about this, so don't flame me for trying to pass myself off as an expert, because I'm not.  I'm just trying to combine what's already been said in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, trying to combine everything said in the comments, leaving the actual article aside for a moment.  The difference between PROTONS and PHOTONS does not matter at the moment.  Particle accelerators usually shoot PROTONS (except CRT monitors and TVs, which shoot electrons).  No, they do not get the protons AT the speed of light.  They do get pretty close, though.  It seems that the proton beam was directed into an offshoot of the main loop for testing in an atmosphere.  The air molecules in the chamber could easily slow the beam down to the speed of SOUND.  Thanks, Sasha, for finding that other article.<br />
Putting THAT article aside, I see no reason why protons previously traveling close to the speed of light can&#8217;t remain coherent in an atmosphere at room temperature.  And again, the air molecules would easily slow them down to around the speed of sound.<br />
I think what the article means by the face &#8220;froze&#8221; was that he can&#8217;t use it and it didn&#8217;t change shape.  Normal faces grow and develop.  They change their shape over time.  The side of his face that got shot by a proton beam didn&#8217;t do that.  It was frozen like a guy who had a stroke.</p>
<p>Now, I could very easily be totally wrong about this, so don&#8217;t flame me for trying to pass myself off as an expert, because I&#8217;m not.  I&#8217;m just trying to combine what&#8217;s already been said in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1077621</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,
  Thank you. My question was not how to measure energy, but what energy proton beam actually hit Anatoli. I suspect, judging that the exit site of the beam is mentioned, the energy was higher than 250 MeV, otherwise the entire dose would have been deposited inside the skull, leading to a more devastating outcome.

  FYI, beam energy can be measured in syncrotrons by detecting the frequency (number of times proton bucket is flying around the ring per second) and beam position within the beam pipe, to figure out the trajectory length of the bucket. Simple (quantum mechanics) math would than produce beam energy as accelerated.

The same article claims however, that the radiation he received was 200 000 rentgen at entrance and 300 000 rentgen at exit. Not sure how it ranslations to radiation dose in Gy. I agree, the dose of 5-6 Gy localized is not lethal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,<br />
  Thank you. My question was not how to measure energy, but what energy proton beam actually hit Anatoli. I suspect, judging that the exit site of the beam is mentioned, the energy was higher than 250 MeV, otherwise the entire dose would have been deposited inside the skull, leading to a more devastating outcome.</p>
<p>  FYI, beam energy can be measured in syncrotrons by detecting the frequency (number of times proton bucket is flying around the ring per second) and beam position within the beam pipe, to figure out the trajectory length of the bucket. Simple (quantum mechanics) math would than produce beam energy as accelerated.</p>
<p>The same article claims however, that the radiation he received was 200 000 rentgen at entrance and 300 000 rentgen at exit. Not sure how it ranslations to radiation dose in Gy. I agree, the dose of 5-6 Gy localized is not lethal.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that this really did happen, however the 500-600 rads being enough to kill someone is not very accurate.  That equals 5-6 gray and would not likely kill a healthy adult. Something more in the 1000 rads or 10 gray of TOTAL BODY irradiation would do the job via the hematopoetic syndrome. A syndrome in which the bone marrow is killed off because of the insult/damage from the radiation and no longer produces red or white blood cells.  It is used as a common total body threshold for Bone Marrow Transplantation.  However 5 to even 10 gray would not likely kill anyone in a localized exposure unless it were to go through a vital organ.  That would certainly have been the end of him if it were to have hit something vital such as the medulla.  

Another thing is like Semi said a proton beam would have to be very slow to only be the speed of sound.  Speed of light would be more accurate. 

As an answer to your question Sasha, the exact energy of the beam is determined by the amount of Voltage applied to create the beam in the first place, which is manually controlled and documented by who ever was running the machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that this really did happen, however the 500-600 rads being enough to kill someone is not very accurate.  That equals 5-6 gray and would not likely kill a healthy adult. Something more in the 1000 rads or 10 gray of TOTAL BODY irradiation would do the job via the hematopoetic syndrome. A syndrome in which the bone marrow is killed off because of the insult/damage from the radiation and no longer produces red or white blood cells.  It is used as a common total body threshold for Bone Marrow Transplantation.  However 5 to even 10 gray would not likely kill anyone in a localized exposure unless it were to go through a vital organ.  That would certainly have been the end of him if it were to have hit something vital such as the medulla.  </p>
<p>Another thing is like Semi said a proton beam would have to be very slow to only be the speed of sound.  Speed of light would be more accurate. </p>
<p>As an answer to your question Sasha, the exact energy of the beam is determined by the amount of Voltage applied to create the beam in the first place, which is manually controlled and documented by who ever was running the machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was skeptical at first, but it does appear to be true. However:

http://www.tpp89.ru/metropol/Personalnyi_cernobyl_anatoliy_bugorskogo.html

is a link to the Russian version of the story where some facts are provided (although some inconsistencies exist there as well)

In this case, the beam was deflected into a small branch for experiments in air (not in vacuum). The previous experiment was not at a high dose, therefore, according to the article, the door interlocks were turned off. (NOTE: door interlocks - are mechanisms that detected when the door is opened and shut off all system that are needed to systain beam in that branch). The warning lights were not flashing because a light bulb burned out. Anatoli called accelerator control to disable beam on that beamline in 5 minutes, but arrived a bit early. Lights were not flashing indicating the beam has been shutoff. Door interlocks were bypassed, so he entered the room. and bend down to check his equipment?

The beam was pencil-sharp (2.3 mm - diameter) and entered the back of the skull exiting around left front nostril. Lucky for him it did not go through any critical organs and was probably of a high energy, which also helped him not depositing all of its energy at the Bragg Peak. (Official quote from his medical records and handicap ID are provided in the article). He felt it immediately but, finished his job, made an entry in the log and went home. In the morning, he went to the hospital with a swollen side of the face. He is fully recovered (except for seizures) and has small spots on entrance and exit of the beam. It is unclear, though probably using the very chamber (dosimeter) he was working on, how do they know the precise dose deposited into him?
Another question: what was the energy of proton beam? At 70 MeV, the depth of the Bragg Peak (a spot where all protons release their energy) is at about 3cm. At 250, it is located at around 30cm deep in water equivalent. In other words, if the energy of the protons was higher than 250 MeV, most of the particles would just fly through his head with very little interactions. Anything less, the entire energy would be deposited somewhere inside his head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was skeptical at first, but it does appear to be true. However:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tpp89.ru/metropol/Personalnyi_cernobyl_anatoliy_bugorskogo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tpp89.ru/metropol/Personalnyi_cernobyl_anatoliy_bugorskogo. html</a></p>
<p>is a link to the Russian version of the story where some facts are provided (although some inconsistencies exist there as well)</p>
<p>In this case, the beam was deflected into a small branch for experiments in air (not in vacuum). The previous experiment was not at a high dose, therefore, according to the article, the door interlocks were turned off. (NOTE: door interlocks - are mechanisms that detected when the door is opened and shut off all system that are needed to systain beam in that branch). The warning lights were not flashing because a light bulb burned out. Anatoli called accelerator control to disable beam on that beamline in 5 minutes, but arrived a bit early. Lights were not flashing indicating the beam has been shutoff. Door interlocks were bypassed, so he entered the room. and bend down to check his equipment?</p>
<p>The beam was pencil-sharp (2.3 mm - diameter) and entered the back of the skull exiting around left front nostril. Lucky for him it did not go through any critical organs and was probably of a high energy, which also helped him not depositing all of its energy at the Bragg Peak. (Official quote from his medical records and handicap ID are provided in the article). He felt it immediately but, finished his job, made an entry in the log and went home. In the morning, he went to the hospital with a swollen side of the face. He is fully recovered (except for seizures) and has small spots on entrance and exit of the beam. It is unclear, though probably using the very chamber (dosimeter) he was working on, how do they know the precise dose deposited into him?<br />
Another question: what was the energy of proton beam? At 70 MeV, the depth of the Bragg Peak (a spot where all protons release their energy) is at about 3cm. At 250, it is located at around 30cm deep in water equivalent. In other words, if the energy of the protons was higher than 250 MeV, most of the particles would just fly through his head with very little interactions. Anything less, the entire energy would be deposited somewhere inside his head.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a plausible story and I have no doubts that it is quite possibly true.

People who understand neither particle accelerators nor proton beams probably shouldn't be commenting so enthusiastically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a plausible story and I have no doubts that it is quite possibly true.</p>
<p>People who understand neither particle accelerators nor proton beams probably shouldn&#8217;t be commenting so enthusiastically.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be more plausible that this guy was a victim of a massive electrical discharge than someone who made contact with a particle beam.  Lots of reasons stated above as to why it's highly improbable that the accelerator was operating at all.  More likely, if it was recently operating and came off-line due to a system fault, it wouldn't be the first time inadequate safety precautions were taken for faulty equipment that resulted in someone discharging a highly capacitive circuit through themselves.  Everything reported in this story has been associated in the past with high voltage electrocutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be more plausible that this guy was a victim of a massive electrical discharge than someone who made contact with a particle beam.  Lots of reasons stated above as to why it&#8217;s highly improbable that the accelerator was operating at all.  More likely, if it was recently operating and came off-line due to a system fault, it wouldn&#8217;t be the first time inadequate safety precautions were taken for faulty equipment that resulted in someone discharging a highly capacitive circuit through themselves.  Everything reported in this story has been associated in the past with high voltage electrocutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He's lucky to be alive.</description>
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		<title>By: Sophia</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1075673</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o hai I'm just gonna stick my head in this large machine here for a sec- WHOA OMG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o hai I&#8217;m just gonna stick my head in this large machine here for a sec- WHOA OMG</p>
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		<title>By: Negative Creep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Negative Creep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I'm certainly no professional, I don't really find any reason to disbelieve this article, except for the writer clearly mistaking the 'speed of sound' for the 'speed of light'.

It's true that Particle Accelerators rely on supercool conditions and extreme electromagnetism, those conditions are required to achieve precise scientific experimentation. Shooting someone in the face with a supercharged stream of protons, however, doesn't require much precision... relatively speaking.

As long as the magnets were active, there doesn't seem to be much issue with the story, from my understanding.

Also, someone asked if 'time dilation' was the reason his face supposedly stopped aging. I got bored with reading, so I apologize if someone already asked this but, no. Half of his face would need to sustain near light speed for such things to happen. And THAT, I am confident, he would not survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m certainly no professional, I don&#8217;t really find any reason to disbelieve this article, except for the writer clearly mistaking the &#8217;speed of sound&#8217; for the &#8217;speed of light&#8217;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that Particle Accelerators rely on supercool conditions and extreme electromagnetism, those conditions are required to achieve precise scientific experimentation. Shooting someone in the face with a supercharged stream of protons, however, doesn&#8217;t require much precision&#8230; relatively speaking.</p>
<p>As long as the magnets were active, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be much issue with the story, from my understanding.</p>
<p>Also, someone asked if &#8216;time dilation&#8217; was the reason his face supposedly stopped aging. I got bored with reading, so I apologize if someone already asked this but, no. Half of his face would need to sustain near light speed for such things to happen. And THAT, I am confident, he would not survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant West</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1072987</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to point out that it was a PROTON not a PHOTON accelerator. They have the ability to be "fired" outside their respective vaccuums and magnets. Likely when/where/how this happened. It's just an article -and one not so well written, omitting facts and speculating- and should be taken as such. Another important point is that this guy didn't put his head "in" something like a bucket, he put it "in" the path of an accelerated PROTON beam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that it was a PROTON not a PHOTON accelerator. They have the ability to be &#8220;fired&#8221; outside their respective vaccuums and magnets. Likely when/where/how this happened. It&#8217;s just an article -and one not so well written, omitting facts and speculating- and should be taken as such. Another important point is that this guy didn&#8217;t put his head &#8220;in&#8221; something like a bucket, he put it &#8220;in&#8221; the path of an accelerated PROTON beam.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1072937</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what you are all missing here is the fact that he was performing maintenance.  The accelerator was not operational but somehow the safeties failed and it fired.</description>
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		<title>By: Athon</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1072912</link>
		<dc:creator>Athon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM-

How familiar are you with thinking critically?  Not very, I assume.  The very fact some of us were asking for an authoritative source for confirmation obviously means our few articles didn't make us the authority. 

The key here was information. Rather than relying solely on wiki or on the occasional article, some of us were asking for more information to supplement what we already know.  Until then, the story remained 'unconfirmed'.  Not absolute BS, and not swallowed hook-line-sinker. Just null until we had more info.  

For all those claiming 'it's not fake', not one of you seemed to be able to provide answers to the apparent issues.  Justin, who had that information, was able to do more by explaining that than by acting like a gullible twat who thinks if the internet says it, it must be real.

A little lesson in skepticism, people.

As you were.  :)

Athon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM-</p>
<p>How familiar are you with thinking critically?  Not very, I assume.  The very fact some of us were asking for an authoritative source for confirmation obviously means our few articles didn&#8217;t make us the authority. </p>
<p>The key here was information. Rather than relying solely on wiki or on the occasional article, some of us were asking for more information to supplement what we already know.  Until then, the story remained &#8216;unconfirmed&#8217;.  Not absolute BS, and not swallowed hook-line-sinker. Just null until we had more info.  </p>
<p>For all those claiming &#8216;it&#8217;s not fake&#8217;, not one of you seemed to be able to provide answers to the apparent issues.  Justin, who had that information, was able to do more by explaining that than by acting like a gullible twat who thinks if the internet says it, it must be real.</p>
<p>A little lesson in skepticism, people.</p>
<p>As you were.  <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Athon</p>
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		<title>By: Athon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin - you're a legend.  Thanks for setting that straight.  :)  I can sleep now.

Athon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin - you&#8217;re a legend.  Thanks for setting that straight.  <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I can sleep now.</p>
<p>Athon</p>
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		<title>By: r m</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1072119</link>
		<dc:creator>r m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha HA looks like justin777 put all the debate to rest. Sorry but After reading through this it looks true to me.
Russians were not known for being particularly(PUN) safe back then(ever?). And plenty of people have pointed out there are different types of particle accelerators.
Those who call fake so quick are worse than people that use wiki and other sources to confirm stories, because you seem to think that just reading a few articles on a subject gives you authoritative knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha HA looks like justin777 put all the debate to rest. Sorry but After reading through this it looks true to me.<br />
Russians were not known for being particularly(PUN) safe back then(ever?). And plenty of people have pointed out there are different types of particle accelerators.<br />
Those who call fake so quick are worse than people that use wiki and other sources to confirm stories, because you seem to think that just reading a few articles on a subject gives you authoritative knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Skaag Argonius</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1071434</link>
		<dc:creator>Skaag Argonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lucifer: Don't you know that in order to get super powers, radiation is not enough? You also have to combine a catalyst, such as the venom from a bite of a very rare and strange spider, for example? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lucifer: Don&#8217;t you know that in order to get super powers, radiation is not enough? You also have to combine a catalyst, such as the venom from a bite of a very rare and strange spider, for example? <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: chris++</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1071049</link>
		<dc:creator>chris++</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my dad said that if you make an ugly face it could stick that way</description>
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		<title>By: Justin777</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1070922</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story is almost certainly true. I earned an M.S. in physics and have worked on several experiments at the Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility in Newport News, VA. (It is the largest "continuous" beam electron accelerator in the world.) 

Many people have said that sticking your head into the beam path would involve breaking the necessary vacuum. This is not true. Particle accelerators use magnets to accelerate charged particles to near light speed, and a vacuum is required for this. But in many cases the experiment does not take place inside the beam pipe. Instead, the beam pipe runs right up to the face of the experiment's target. Then the already-accelerated particles exit the sealed end of the pipe, fly through a small amount of "outside" air and into the target chamber (type of target chamber depends on the experiment). If I remeber the story correctly, Bugorski was checking on something in his experiment's target chamber, not on the particle accelerator when this accident occured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is almost certainly true. I earned an M.S. in physics and have worked on several experiments at the Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility in Newport News, VA. (It is the largest &#8220;continuous&#8221; beam electron accelerator in the world.) </p>
<p>Many people have said that sticking your head into the beam path would involve breaking the necessary vacuum. This is not true. Particle accelerators use magnets to accelerate charged particles to near light speed, and a vacuum is required for this. But in many cases the experiment does not take place inside the beam pipe. Instead, the beam pipe runs right up to the face of the experiment&#8217;s target. Then the already-accelerated particles exit the sealed end of the pipe, fly through a small amount of &#8220;outside&#8221; air and into the target chamber (type of target chamber depends on the experiment). If I remeber the story correctly, Bugorski was checking on something in his experiment&#8217;s target chamber, not on the particle accelerator when this accident occured.</p>
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		<title>By: Batman</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1070869</link>
		<dc:creator>Batman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 face now</description>
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		<title>By: NotLikely</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1070520</link>
		<dc:creator>NotLikely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a high energy physicist, and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn  Express last night, but if we accept at least the broad outlines of the story as factual, then let's consider the following:

1. If a proton beam can be shot at someone's head to help treat a tumor, then a proton beam can exist in a non-vacuum, and, at least for a while, outside the confines of a collimating magnetic field.

2. Might older, lower energy accelerator technology than currently being used not have required a vacuum to reach the energies at which it was designed to work?

3. Ditto on the magnetic field...

This seems to be a pretty well corroborated story. Instead of assuming it's wrong ("sounds fishy"), find out how it could be right. Might learn something (like the guy who thinks the LHC is the only particle accelerator in the world).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a high energy physicist, and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn  Express last night, but if we accept at least the broad outlines of the story as factual, then let&#8217;s consider the following:</p>
<p>1. If a proton beam can be shot at someone&#8217;s head to help treat a tumor, then a proton beam can exist in a non-vacuum, and, at least for a while, outside the confines of a collimating magnetic field.</p>
<p>2. Might older, lower energy accelerator technology than currently being used not have required a vacuum to reach the energies at which it was designed to work?</p>
<p>3. Ditto on the magnetic field&#8230;</p>
<p>This seems to be a pretty well corroborated story. Instead of assuming it&#8217;s wrong (&#8221;sounds fishy&#8221;), find out how it could be right. Might learn something (like the guy who thinks the LHC is the only particle accelerator in the world).</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture looks like he's just blowing his cheek out.</description>
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		<title>By: Athon</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/#comment-1070432</link>
		<dc:creator>Athon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Berky93

It's not a matter of whether the magnets form a circuit or not.  It's a matter of the magnets controlling the beam to begin with.  From what I understand of particle accelerators (enough to know the fundamentals, but not enough the particulars), the magnets keep charged particles moving.  It's not as simple as just opening a hatch and watching them whiz by.

Second of all, to accelerate the particles, they can't have large molecules of air bumping into them.  Again, they require a vacuum.  Opening a 'hatch' of any sort would simply let air in.  So before we talk about 'misinformation' or 'retards', how about addressing the basics and providing some facts which address the questions.

Having done a little more homework on the matter, it's looking less likely than ever to me that he stuck his head into a beam of accelerated protons.  More possible was him putting his head where it shouldn't be - outside of the chamber - and copping a dose of radiation from particle collisions (if anything at all).  

Again - any informed answers would be most appreciated.

Athon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Berky93</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of whether the magnets form a circuit or not.  It&#8217;s a matter of the magnets controlling the beam to begin with.  From what I understand of particle accelerators (enough to know the fundamentals, but not enough the particulars), the magnets keep charged particles moving.  It&#8217;s not as simple as just opening a hatch and watching them whiz by.</p>
<p>Second of all, to accelerate the particles, they can&#8217;t have large molecules of air bumping into them.  Again, they require a vacuum.  Opening a &#8216;hatch&#8217; of any sort would simply let air in.  So before we talk about &#8216;misinformation&#8217; or &#8216;retards&#8217;, how about addressing the basics and providing some facts which address the questions.</p>
<p>Having done a little more homework on the matter, it&#8217;s looking less likely than ever to me that he stuck his head into a beam of accelerated protons.  More possible was him putting his head where it shouldn&#8217;t be - outside of the chamber - and copping a dose of radiation from particle collisions (if anything at all).  </p>
<p>Again - any informed answers would be most appreciated.</p>
<p>Athon</p>
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		<title>By: Y.S. Sridutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y.S. Sridutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant. 

How come no Nobel award for him? silly bugger. Please try to keep people like him away from the LHC. It's an irresistible target for such people to dangle or stick in various bits of their anatomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant. </p>
<p>How come no Nobel award for him? silly bugger. Please try to keep people like him away from the LHC. It&#8217;s an irresistible target for such people to dangle or stick in various bits of their anatomy.</p>
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