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	<title>Comments on: The Man Who Stuck His Head Inside a Particle Accelerator</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean that if the part of his face &quot;froze&quot; that it stopped aging?  And does that mean we could potentially use this to decelerate the aging process?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that if the part of his face "froze" that it stopped aging?  And does that mean we could potentially use this to decelerate the aging process?</p>
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		<title>By: terafl0p</title>
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		<dc:creator>terafl0p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my bad, my dream to become Doctor Manhattan vanished :-(

Bawwwww</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my bad, my dream to become Doctor Manhattan vanished <img src='http://www.neatorama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bawwwww</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no we found out what happens if somone stuck their head in a microwave haha
and it makes you age.. not anti age :s ..obviously</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no we found out what happens if somone stuck their head in a microwave haha<br />
and it makes you age.. not anti age :s ..obviously</p>
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		<title>By: robb</title>
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		<dc:creator>robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did we just found anti-aging solution here ?</description>
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		<title>By: Tail Spin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tail Spin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good safety share for those of us who work with radiation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good safety share for those of us who work with radiation.</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is harder than proving the planned bring down of WTC - maybe magnetic fields and vacuums were used to achieve free fall speed.   

@cjsavvy: permanent semi on one side, it would curve like a banana to the burnt side. Luckily we have proof at wiki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is harder than proving the planned bring down of WTC - maybe magnetic fields and vacuums were used to achieve free fall speed.   </p>
<p>@cjsavvy: permanent semi on one side, it would curve like a banana to the burnt side. Luckily we have proof at wiki.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At best he is Russian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best he is Russian.</p>
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		<title>By: BS was called.</title>
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		<dc:creator>BS was called.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not much for the story,
the comments are full of win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not much for the story,<br />
the comments are full of win.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitler used one of these to burn jews</description>
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		<title>By: Immortaly007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Immortaly007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it would be possible to accalerate a beam of protons without superconducting magnets or vacuums, but then it would take a lot more energy to get the beam to an accaptable speed. The speed of sound would seem a bit slow, but the beam could exist and go through his face. 
But I don&#039;t understand how it could have been burned just through one part of his brain, was the beam turned on while he was putting his head in front of it, and then turned of? Because if he would have put his head inside the beam while it was turned on, it would have more like sliced his head right? unless ofcourse the frequency the protons were released was actually very slow, and that only one proton went through his head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it would be possible to accalerate a beam of protons without superconducting magnets or vacuums, but then it would take a lot more energy to get the beam to an accaptable speed. The speed of sound would seem a bit slow, but the beam could exist and go through his face.<br />
But I don't understand how it could have been burned just through one part of his brain, was the beam turned on while he was putting his head in front of it, and then turned of? Because if he would have put his head inside the beam while it was turned on, it would have more like sliced his head right? unless ofcourse the frequency the protons were released was actually very slow, and that only one proton went through his head...</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully the income potential for this type of work is high because dude isn&#039;t going to get any dates just off his looks alone, especially when the oldy side of this head is like 86 years old and contrasting more grotesquely with the spry younger side as his days progress.  

Goes to show you how things can go horribly, horribly wrong with just a moment&#039;s carelessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully the income potential for this type of work is high because dude isn't going to get any dates just off his looks alone, especially when the oldy side of this head is like 86 years old and contrasting more grotesquely with the spry younger side as his days progress.  </p>
<p>Goes to show you how things can go horribly, horribly wrong with just a moment's carelessness.</p>
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		<title>By: cjsavvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjsavvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 02:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wtf happens if you stick your dick into the particle accelerator? Will it remain frozen for good after being zapped by speeding protons/photons, whatever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wtf happens if you stick your dick into the particle accelerator? Will it remain frozen for good after being zapped by speeding protons/photons, whatever?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Light “brighter than a thousand suns” should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.&quot;

You&#039;re assuming that he was perceiving that visual phenomenon with his eyes.  Why?  A large dose of magnetism or radiation to the brain can stimulate the visual cortex, and he was probably perceiving that, not an actual visible light.  

&quot;Then the description of the”path of the beam” seems more like a description of science fiction.&quot;

I assure you it&#039;s not.  There&#039;s a defined path along which a particle accelerator accelerates the beam of protons (or other particles), and that phrase is not inaccurate. 

&quot;Then “the insides of his head continued to burn” for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.&quot;

You&#039;re making a lot of assumptions that are not supported by biology or medicine.  The effects of radiation exposure can indeed continue for some years after exposure, as cells accumulate genetic damage, fail to reproduce, or are functionally impaired.  In particular, I&#039;m familiar with cutaneous radiation syndrome, the effects of which can continue for a good while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Light “brighter than a thousand suns” should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently."</p>
<p>You're assuming that he was perceiving that visual phenomenon with his eyes.  Why?  A large dose of magnetism or radiation to the brain can stimulate the visual cortex, and he was probably perceiving that, not an actual visible light.  </p>
<p>"Then the description of the”path of the beam” seems more like a description of science fiction."</p>
<p>I assure you it's not.  There's a defined path along which a particle accelerator accelerates the beam of protons (or other particles), and that phrase is not inaccurate. </p>
<p>"Then “the insides of his head continued to burn” for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning."</p>
<p>You're making a lot of assumptions that are not supported by biology or medicine.  The effects of radiation exposure can indeed continue for some years after exposure, as cells accumulate genetic damage, fail to reproduce, or are functionally impaired.  In particular, I'm familiar with cutaneous radiation syndrome, the effects of which can continue for a good while.</p>
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		<title>By: nellieoapple</title>
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		<dc:creator>nellieoapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;dy! I stopped by to say how&#039;re ya doin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How'dy! I stopped by to say how're ya doin?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/comment-page-2/#comment-1372191</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a well established fact that news outlets - whether they be bloggers or corporate- are unable to differentiate between the speed of sound, and the speed of light (or in this case matter moving slightly below the speed of light).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's a well established fact that news outlets - whether they be bloggers or corporate- are unable to differentiate between the speed of sound, and the speed of light (or in this case matter moving slightly below the speed of light).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is anyone one able to elaborate on how only half his face aged? Maybe a link to something that has been published that supports a theory on the specifics of how that is possible. - I&#039;m not doubting, just really curious..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is anyone one able to elaborate on how only half his face aged? Maybe a link to something that has been published that supports a theory on the specifics of how that is possible. - I'm not doubting, just really curious..</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Goodz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Goodz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this sounds like the beginning of a superhero. =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this sounds like the beginning of a superhero. =D</p>
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		<title>By: Vodka and Coke Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vodka and Coke Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vodka brings to Coke the thing that Coke has been missing - Vodka!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vodka brings to Coke the thing that Coke has been missing - Vodka!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not having enough knowledge on the subject, and not knowing how many proton&#039;s were being accelerated etc, should his head not have been peppered with a line of holes as his head entered the chamber? What are the chances that his head was in that position at the exact moment the proton(s) left the accelerator beam pipe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having enough knowledge on the subject, and not knowing how many proton's were being accelerated etc, should his head not have been peppered with a line of holes as his head entered the chamber? What are the chances that his head was in that position at the exact moment the proton(s) left the accelerator beam pipe?</p>
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		<title>By: i.refute</title>
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		<dc:creator>i.refute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.

Light &quot;brighter than a thousand suns&quot; should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.

Then the description of the&quot;path of the beam&quot; seems more like a description of science fiction.

Then &quot;the insides of his head continued to burn&quot; for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.

Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.</p>
<p>Light "brighter than a thousand suns" should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.</p>
<p>Then the description of the"path of the beam" seems more like a description of science fiction.</p>
<p>Then "the insides of his head continued to burn" for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.</p>
<p>Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</p>
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		<title>By: tom at live</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom at live</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.
Light &quot;brighter than a thousand suns&quot; should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.
Then the description of the&quot;path of the beam&quot; seems more like a description of science fiction.
Then &quot;the insides of his head continued to burn&quot; for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.
Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medically a lot of the description seems suspect.<br />
Light "brighter than a thousand suns" should have caused severe actinic retinitis to have blinded him permanently.<br />
Then the description of the"path of the beam" seems more like a description of science fiction.<br />
Then "the insides of his head continued to burn" for another two years is either inaccurately stated or is another attempt at science fictioning.<br />
Finally the site of paralysis is on the wrong side.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabik7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabik7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda&#039; sheds a whole new light(sorry)on getting on someone&#039;s &quot;bad&quot; side...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda' sheds a whole new light(sorry)on getting on someone's "bad" side...</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this story from the onion.com?  it seems like it considering it&#039;s complete bs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this story from the onion.com?  it seems like it considering it's complete bs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kopachris</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/comment-page-2/#comment-1079848</link>
		<dc:creator>Kopachris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, trying to combine everything said in the comments, leaving the actual article aside for a moment.  The difference between PROTONS and PHOTONS does not matter at the moment.  Particle accelerators usually shoot PROTONS (except CRT monitors and TVs, which shoot electrons).  No, they do not get the protons AT the speed of light.  They do get pretty close, though.  It seems that the proton beam was directed into an offshoot of the main loop for testing in an atmosphere.  The air molecules in the chamber could easily slow the beam down to the speed of SOUND.  Thanks, Sasha, for finding that other article.
Putting THAT article aside, I see no reason why protons previously traveling close to the speed of light can&#039;t remain coherent in an atmosphere at room temperature.  And again, the air molecules would easily slow them down to around the speed of sound.
I think what the article means by the face &quot;froze&quot; was that he can&#039;t use it and it didn&#039;t change shape.  Normal faces grow and develop.  They change their shape over time.  The side of his face that got shot by a proton beam didn&#039;t do that.  It was frozen like a guy who had a stroke.

Now, I could very easily be totally wrong about this, so don&#039;t flame me for trying to pass myself off as an expert, because I&#039;m not.  I&#039;m just trying to combine what&#039;s already been said in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, trying to combine everything said in the comments, leaving the actual article aside for a moment.  The difference between PROTONS and PHOTONS does not matter at the moment.  Particle accelerators usually shoot PROTONS (except CRT monitors and TVs, which shoot electrons).  No, they do not get the protons AT the speed of light.  They do get pretty close, though.  It seems that the proton beam was directed into an offshoot of the main loop for testing in an atmosphere.  The air molecules in the chamber could easily slow the beam down to the speed of SOUND.  Thanks, Sasha, for finding that other article.<br />
Putting THAT article aside, I see no reason why protons previously traveling close to the speed of light can't remain coherent in an atmosphere at room temperature.  And again, the air molecules would easily slow them down to around the speed of sound.<br />
I think what the article means by the face "froze" was that he can't use it and it didn't change shape.  Normal faces grow and develop.  They change their shape over time.  The side of his face that got shot by a proton beam didn't do that.  It was frozen like a guy who had a stroke.</p>
<p>Now, I could very easily be totally wrong about this, so don't flame me for trying to pass myself off as an expert, because I'm not.  I'm just trying to combine what's already been said in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,
  Thank you. My question was not how to measure energy, but what energy proton beam actually hit Anatoli. I suspect, judging that the exit site of the beam is mentioned, the energy was higher than 250 MeV, otherwise the entire dose would have been deposited inside the skull, leading to a more devastating outcome.

  FYI, beam energy can be measured in syncrotrons by detecting the frequency (number of times proton bucket is flying around the ring per second) and beam position within the beam pipe, to figure out the trajectory length of the bucket. Simple (quantum mechanics) math would than produce beam energy as accelerated.

The same article claims however, that the radiation he received was 200 000 rentgen at entrance and 300 000 rentgen at exit. Not sure how it ranslations to radiation dose in Gy. I agree, the dose of 5-6 Gy localized is not lethal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,<br />
  Thank you. My question was not how to measure energy, but what energy proton beam actually hit Anatoli. I suspect, judging that the exit site of the beam is mentioned, the energy was higher than 250 MeV, otherwise the entire dose would have been deposited inside the skull, leading to a more devastating outcome.</p>
<p>  FYI, beam energy can be measured in syncrotrons by detecting the frequency (number of times proton bucket is flying around the ring per second) and beam position within the beam pipe, to figure out the trajectory length of the bucket. Simple (quantum mechanics) math would than produce beam energy as accelerated.</p>
<p>The same article claims however, that the radiation he received was 200 000 rentgen at entrance and 300 000 rentgen at exit. Not sure how it ranslations to radiation dose in Gy. I agree, the dose of 5-6 Gy localized is not lethal.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that this really did happen, however the 500-600 rads being enough to kill someone is not very accurate.  That equals 5-6 gray and would not likely kill a healthy adult. Something more in the 1000 rads or 10 gray of TOTAL BODY irradiation would do the job via the hematopoetic syndrome. A syndrome in which the bone marrow is killed off because of the insult/damage from the radiation and no longer produces red or white blood cells.  It is used as a common total body threshold for Bone Marrow Transplantation.  However 5 to even 10 gray would not likely kill anyone in a localized exposure unless it were to go through a vital organ.  That would certainly have been the end of him if it were to have hit something vital such as the medulla.  

Another thing is like Semi said a proton beam would have to be very slow to only be the speed of sound.  Speed of light would be more accurate. 

As an answer to your question Sasha, the exact energy of the beam is determined by the amount of Voltage applied to create the beam in the first place, which is manually controlled and documented by who ever was running the machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that this really did happen, however the 500-600 rads being enough to kill someone is not very accurate.  That equals 5-6 gray and would not likely kill a healthy adult. Something more in the 1000 rads or 10 gray of TOTAL BODY irradiation would do the job via the hematopoetic syndrome. A syndrome in which the bone marrow is killed off because of the insult/damage from the radiation and no longer produces red or white blood cells.  It is used as a common total body threshold for Bone Marrow Transplantation.  However 5 to even 10 gray would not likely kill anyone in a localized exposure unless it were to go through a vital organ.  That would certainly have been the end of him if it were to have hit something vital such as the medulla.  </p>
<p>Another thing is like Semi said a proton beam would have to be very slow to only be the speed of sound.  Speed of light would be more accurate. </p>
<p>As an answer to your question Sasha, the exact energy of the beam is determined by the amount of Voltage applied to create the beam in the first place, which is manually controlled and documented by who ever was running the machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was skeptical at first, but it does appear to be true. However:

http://www.tpp89.ru/metropol/Personalnyi_cernobyl_anatoliy_bugorskogo.html

is a link to the Russian version of the story where some facts are provided (although some inconsistencies exist there as well)

In this case, the beam was deflected into a small branch for experiments in air (not in vacuum). The previous experiment was not at a high dose, therefore, according to the article, the door interlocks were turned off. (NOTE: door interlocks - are mechanisms that detected when the door is opened and shut off all system that are needed to systain beam in that branch). The warning lights were not flashing because a light bulb burned out. Anatoli called accelerator control to disable beam on that beamline in 5 minutes, but arrived a bit early. Lights were not flashing indicating the beam has been shutoff. Door interlocks were bypassed, so he entered the room. and bend down to check his equipment?

The beam was pencil-sharp (2.3 mm - diameter) and entered the back of the skull exiting around left front nostril. Lucky for him it did not go through any critical organs and was probably of a high energy, which also helped him not depositing all of its energy at the Bragg Peak. (Official quote from his medical records and handicap ID are provided in the article). He felt it immediately but, finished his job, made an entry in the log and went home. In the morning, he went to the hospital with a swollen side of the face. He is fully recovered (except for seizures) and has small spots on entrance and exit of the beam. It is unclear, though probably using the very chamber (dosimeter) he was working on, how do they know the precise dose deposited into him?
Another question: what was the energy of proton beam? At 70 MeV, the depth of the Bragg Peak (a spot where all protons release their energy) is at about 3cm. At 250, it is located at around 30cm deep in water equivalent. In other words, if the energy of the protons was higher than 250 MeV, most of the particles would just fly through his head with very little interactions. Anything less, the entire energy would be deposited somewhere inside his head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was skeptical at first, but it does appear to be true. However:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tpp89.ru/metropol/Personalnyi_cernobyl_anatoliy_bugorskogo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tpp89.ru/metropol/Personalnyi_cernobyl_anatoliy_bugorskogo. html</a></p>
<p>is a link to the Russian version of the story where some facts are provided (although some inconsistencies exist there as well)</p>
<p>In this case, the beam was deflected into a small branch for experiments in air (not in vacuum). The previous experiment was not at a high dose, therefore, according to the article, the door interlocks were turned off. (NOTE: door interlocks - are mechanisms that detected when the door is opened and shut off all system that are needed to systain beam in that branch). The warning lights were not flashing because a light bulb burned out. Anatoli called accelerator control to disable beam on that beamline in 5 minutes, but arrived a bit early. Lights were not flashing indicating the beam has been shutoff. Door interlocks were bypassed, so he entered the room. and bend down to check his equipment?</p>
<p>The beam was pencil-sharp (2.3 mm - diameter) and entered the back of the skull exiting around left front nostril. Lucky for him it did not go through any critical organs and was probably of a high energy, which also helped him not depositing all of its energy at the Bragg Peak. (Official quote from his medical records and handicap ID are provided in the article). He felt it immediately but, finished his job, made an entry in the log and went home. In the morning, he went to the hospital with a swollen side of the face. He is fully recovered (except for seizures) and has small spots on entrance and exit of the beam. It is unclear, though probably using the very chamber (dosimeter) he was working on, how do they know the precise dose deposited into him?<br />
Another question: what was the energy of proton beam? At 70 MeV, the depth of the Bragg Peak (a spot where all protons release their energy) is at about 3cm. At 250, it is located at around 30cm deep in water equivalent. In other words, if the energy of the protons was higher than 250 MeV, most of the particles would just fly through his head with very little interactions. Anything less, the entire energy would be deposited somewhere inside his head.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/comment-page-2/#comment-1076244</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a plausible story and I have no doubts that it is quite possibly true.

People who understand neither particle accelerators nor proton beams probably shouldn&#039;t be commenting so enthusiastically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a plausible story and I have no doubts that it is quite possibly true.</p>
<p>People who understand neither particle accelerators nor proton beams probably shouldn't be commenting so enthusiastically.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck D</title>
		<link>http://www.neatorama.com/2008/10/05/the-man-who-stuck-his-head-inside-a-particle-accelerator/comment-page-2/#comment-1075796</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be more plausible that this guy was a victim of a massive electrical discharge than someone who made contact with a particle beam.  Lots of reasons stated above as to why it&#039;s highly improbable that the accelerator was operating at all.  More likely, if it was recently operating and came off-line due to a system fault, it wouldn&#039;t be the first time inadequate safety precautions were taken for faulty equipment that resulted in someone discharging a highly capacitive circuit through themselves.  Everything reported in this story has been associated in the past with high voltage electrocutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be more plausible that this guy was a victim of a massive electrical discharge than someone who made contact with a particle beam.  Lots of reasons stated above as to why it's highly improbable that the accelerator was operating at all.  More likely, if it was recently operating and came off-line due to a system fault, it wouldn't be the first time inadequate safety precautions were taken for faulty equipment that resulted in someone discharging a highly capacitive circuit through themselves.  Everything reported in this story has been associated in the past with high voltage electrocutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s lucky to be alive.</description>
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